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08-23-2013, 06:18 PM
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. I cannot see how Chris Hansen maintains credibility at the league level.
He funded an anti-arena refendum in the heat of the purchase/relocation battle. How does that affect his credibility? How does Clay Bennett/David Stern Maintain their credibility at the league level?

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Ballmer needs to take the reins. Will he?
There are no reins to take, Chris still has them.

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08-23-2013, 06:41 PM
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Indeed what did stern and bennet did to seattle in 08 was unethical it was even illegal. And what the NBA did to hansen this year regarding NBA kings was also illegal. Anti-trust illegal imo. NBA is very fortunate that hansen didn't file anti-trust against them.

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Potential NBA owner Steve balmer is retiring from Microsoft within 12 months

http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/46...-microsoft-ceo

This will give him more time to focus on getting a NBA team back to seattle.
Hopefully he's better at it then he was at running Microsoft

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Hopefully he's better at it then he was at running Microsoft
This is completely uncalled for. Running a NBA franchise is different than being a CEO of a major company.

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Hopefully he's better at it then he was at running Microsoft
If nothing else, he can serve as a cheerleader. The following videos are NOT faked or Onion News Network. Dancing Gabe has nothing on this guy...




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08-26-2013, 09:58 AM
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Balmer is a very energetic person.

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I follow NHL_to_Seattle on FB but missed some of their entries until I stumbled on their blog. They had one post recently about the Canadian influence on the Seattle Mariners as it related to attendance for when the Blue Jays visit Seattle.

http://nhltoseattle.com/2013/08/09/c...rs-attendance/

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Over the past 5 years, Blue jays have only played mid-week games against Seattle. The BlueJays games have an average attendance of 24,002. This is on par with the Mariners overall average but over 4,000 more than the average weekday game. Blue Jays games account for 3 of the top 5 non-opening day weekday game attendance numbers with the Yankees having the other 2. if 4,000 Canadians will come down to see the Blue Jays vs Mariners; an NHL would get similar Canadian support at minimum.

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08-29-2013, 05:14 PM
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I follow NHL_to_Seattle on FB but missed some of their entries until I stumbled on their blog. They had one post recently about the Canadian influence on the Seattle Mariners as it related to attendance for when the Blue Jays visit Seattle.

http://nhltoseattle.com/2013/08/09/c...rs-attendance/

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Over the past 5 years, Blue jays have only played mid-week games against Seattle. The BlueJays games have an average attendance of 24,002. This is on par with the Mariners overall average but over 4,000 more than the average weekday game. Blue Jays games account for 3 of the top 5 non-opening day weekday game attendance numbers with the Yankees having the other 2. if 4,000 Canadians will come down to see the Blue Jays vs Mariners; an NHL would get similar Canadian support at minimum.
Yea there been times where blue jay fans out number mariners fans for a game at Safeco field. I doubt it'll be 4k though for seattle vs Vancouver in seattle match.

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I follow NHL_to_Seattle on FB but missed some of their entries until I stumbled on their blog. They had one post recently about the Canadian influence on the Seattle Mariners as it related to attendance for when the Blue Jays visit Seattle.

http://nhltoseattle.com/2013/08/09/c...rs-attendance/

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Over the past 5 years, Blue jays have only played mid-week games against Seattle. The BlueJays games have an average attendance of 24,002. This is on par with the Mariners overall average but over 4,000 more than the average weekday game. Blue Jays games account for 3 of the top 5 non-opening day weekday game attendance numbers with the Yankees having the other 2. if 4,000 Canadians will come down to see the Blue Jays vs Mariners; an NHL would get similar Canadian support at minimum.
I'm sure there will be some level of support. I don't know that I'd assume it would be similar to the Jays as there are a couple important distinctions. The first being there's no MLB team in Vancouver. And the second being the Jays are the only Canadian MLB team, so one would expect they have a wider geographical base of fans than many of the Canadian NHL teams.

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08-29-2013, 08:20 PM
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There are 1000's of ex-Torontonians, people from Southern Ontario living in Vancouver & the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, Vancouver Island. Go to a Canucks game when the Leafs are in town. At one time the Leaf jerseys outnumbered the Canucksters in the stands. Montreal to a lesser extent but none the less, an impressive contingent.

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So the Blue Jays impact on Mariners attendance is significant but there are also more Canadians living in the Seattle area than most cities. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find data on it but I am going to keep trying. Like many of us, we probably hang out in hockey circles so my circle of friends is not a good sample. I would say half of my closest friends in Seattle are Canadian...it helps that I play hockey with them. There are still plenty that don't that I work with in tech. It's not that they will just watch when their teams will come to town but that they will get Season tickets and build the core right out of the gate.

When the expansion team comes, Seattle will have one of the more educated expansion team fan base.

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So the Blue Jays impact on Mariners attendance is significant but there are also more Canadians leaving in the Seattle area than most cities. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find data on it but I am going to keep trying. Like many of us, we probably hang out in hockey circles so my circle of friends is not a good sample. I would say half of my closest friends in Seattle are Canadian...it helps that I play hockey with them. There are still plenty that don't that I work with in tech. It's not that they will just watch when their teams will come to town but that they will get Season tickets and build the core right out of the gate.

When the expansion team comes, Seattle will have one of the more educated expansion team fan base.
Don't be so sure about ex-pat Canadians, From Wikipedia
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The Kings struggled both on the ice and at the gate, however. Cooke had been told that there were more than three hundred thousand former Canadians living within a three-hour drive of Los Angeles, and remarked, "Now I know why they left Canada: They hate hockey!"

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LA is too warm and sunny, attracts the wrong kind of Canadians.
Yes, like Jack Warner (Warner Bros), Louis B. Mayer (MGM), Walter Huston, Glenn Ford and

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http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID4538.pdf

More recent update its mostly addressing questions from the previous meeting.

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09-08-2013, 09:11 PM
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Update via Chris Daniels

http://www.king5.com/sports/sonics/S...222900211.html

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So moving forward procedurally. Thats good news. "Drumlins" huh? Interesting.

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So moving forward procedurally. Thats good news. "Drumlins" huh? Interesting.
Hansen has used unusual terms before. embiggen being the other.

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09-08-2013, 10:19 PM
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Hansen has used unusual terms before. embiggen being the other.
I don't know why. It's a perfectly cromulent word.

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Not sure if made-up words that he's borrowed from The Simpsons serious.

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Not sure if made-up words that he's borrowed from The Simpsons serious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumlin

It wouldn't be the last time he would use strange words.

Either way i think the arena design is basically done just making final adjustments as what the design review board recommends. Another thing i have noticed i believe this was the first that its been called Seattle arena in the design documents.

edit for additional detials.

Another thing i noticed that the document mention Seattle Arena in the design images themselves and i don't recall seeing that before. Its usually been Sonics arena in those documents. Perhaps a hint on maybe building it with NHL first?


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Perhaps a hint on maybe building it with NHL first?
Yes, its certainly interesting/curious, and a lot of unanswered questions.

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Yes, its certainly interesting/curious, and a lot of unanswered questions.
Daniels himself sees the NHL more likely at this point than the NBA.

I like how they brought back the LED Wall panel thing





The Cone got a little bigger as well.

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Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5 21h

The timing here in NOT coincidental, as the public will get their first chance to weigh in on the #SeattleArena EIS on Tuesday night.
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@ChrisDaniels5 any update with NBA as far as a team coming to SEA?
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@findthemhot22 The NHL may be a better bet at this point.

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Good news.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/...of-sodo-arena/

Appeals court rules in favor of the arena.

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“The memorandum does not predetermine where an arena will be built or even that an arena will be built at all,” the Division One Appeals Court three-justice panel wrote in its opinion. “Whether the city and county will agree to Hansen’s proposal is a decision expressly reserved until after environmental review is complete. Because there has not yet been a government ‘action’ as that term is defined by SEPA (State Environmental Policy Act), the courts are not a forum for the union’s opposition to Hansen’s proposal.”


Great decision by the appeals court, ILWU had no case and the court again showed it.


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Great decision by the appeals court, ILWU had no case and the court again showed it.
Tomorrow is the first of two DEIS meetings and per article the union is gonna fight it there. Aka send out the clowns and bring the popcorn folks.

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