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08-01-2013, 11:34 AM
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Oilers / Panthers

Oilers offer:

Hemsky, 2014 1st round pick,

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Brian Campbell (Panthers retain 2.142 million to even out cap hits)


In my thinking this gets Florida out from under the contract of Campbell, while adding scoring and adding a significant draft pick for next year. Oilers get a solid top line defenseman to work with the young guys coming up.


Would certainly be willing to entertain adding a bit from the Oilers end but how's the value from a Florida standpoint?

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08-01-2013, 11:39 AM
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why would florida get out of campbells contract? he's their #1 guy and he waived his NTC/NMC whatever to go to florida

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08-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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why would florida get out of campbells contract? he's their #1 guy and he waived his NTC/NMC whatever to go to florida
Yeah, this. Not a good trade for FLA.

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08-01-2013, 11:51 AM
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Just can't see why Florida does this. Campbell's been healthy and just had his best two seasons since 2009. It's not as if the Panthers are in cap trouble and eating some of his salary probably isn't an option. Hemsky also just can't stay healthy. He'll likely have his highest value at the trade deadline if he can stay healthy.

Just don't see any need for Florida to do this.

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08-01-2013, 11:52 AM
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This isn't a good trade for Edmonton, and it isn't the answer to their defensive woes.

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08-01-2013, 12:56 PM
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In my thinking this gets Florida out from under the contract of Campbell, while adding scoring and adding a significant draft pick for next year. Oilers get a solid top line defenseman to work with the young guys coming up.


Would certainly be willing to entertain adding a bit from the Oilers end but how's the value from a Florida standpoint?
Florida has no desire to trade their best defenseman, and again, the only way a Panthers fan wants Hemsky is if it gets rid of Upshall, so all trade proposals should involve him

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08-01-2013, 02:13 PM
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I'd do this as a Panthers fan though I believe Campbell would have to waive his NTC/NMC for it to go through. Taking off Campbell's big cap hit to be able to extend Guds and Kuli long term, picking up what will arguably be a top 10 pick in next years draft while only having one year of Hemsky's cap hit at 5mil, not to mention RW is the biggest position of need for us, I like it all around.

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08-01-2013, 02:14 PM
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Hemsky for Upshall then?

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08-01-2013, 02:25 PM
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In the words of Squince Peladoras, 'if you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that!'

Panthers have no need for Hemsky.

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I'd do this as a Panthers fan though I believe Campbell would have to waive his NTC/NMC for it to go through. Taking off Campbell's big cap hit to be able to extend Guds and Kuli long term, picking up what will arguably be a top 10 pick in next years draft while only having one year of Hemsky's cap hit at 5mil, not to mention RW is the biggest position of need for us, I like it all around.
Yes he'd have to waive, and why extend those two now and run into a potential Olesz issue again? Soup is needed, he's no issue.

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08-01-2013, 03:07 PM
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Too big a deal, just do Hemsky for Upshall or Bergenheim or something.

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No for so many reasons from Panthers. 1rst Campbell would never agree to be traded to Edmonton

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Value is bad for Florida. But Campbell isn't really the defenceman the Oilers need. What about something smaller? Like Hemsky for Goc/Bergenheim?

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08-01-2013, 04:54 PM
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to fla
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Value is bad for Florida. But Campbell isn't really the defenceman the Oilers need. What about something smaller? Like Hemsky for Goc/Bergenheim?
I'd love to get one if not both Goc/Bergenheim. Unfortunately I see MacT give his Motley Crue of new additions a shot before pulling the trigger on a deal for proven bottom 6 guys.

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08-01-2013, 05:11 PM
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Value is bad for Florida. But Campbell isn't really the defenceman the Oilers need. What about something smaller? Like Hemsky for Goc/Bergenheim?
why would florida want hemsky?

we dont need injury prone players

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Yeah, let's deal the only proven PMD the team has and can afford. Nope.

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Hemsky for Upshall then?
One for one without anything added nor salary retained, done.

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Value is bad for Florida. But Campbell isn't really the defenceman the Oilers need. What about something smaller? Like Hemsky for Goc/Bergenheim?
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I'd love to get one if not both Goc/Bergenheim. Unfortunately I see MacT give his Motley Crue of new additions a shot before pulling the trigger on a deal for proven bottom 6 guys.
We've speculated that Goc could be dealt since he's an upcoming UFA, but I don't think it's going to happen. He's a high character guy, good on faceoffs, defensively responsible and a real fit if he isn't pushed to play too many minutes. On top of that, he's seemed to really like his time in Florida, so I'm fully expecting DT to re-sign him before January.

Bergy isn't available. Guys like him don't grow on trees, and Tallon knows that.

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I don't believe that Campbell is a player that you give up a first for.

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08-01-2013, 06:12 PM
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That is awful.
Way to ruin a thread..

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I mean... FLA would get a top 10 pick and hemsky....

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No hesitation. Done from Edmonton's end.

Campbell is a top-10 defenseman in the NHL. Though an adjustment or two would have to be made. The Oilers currently have 9 D on one-way contracts.

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08-01-2013, 09:55 PM
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No hesitation. Done from Edmonton's end.

Campbell is a top-10 defenseman in the NHL. Though an adjustment or two would have to be made. The Oilers currently have 9 D on one-way contracts.
Maybe Florida would take back N.Schultz for a forward/prospect/pick. Overall not a bad proposal if the Panthers were willing to move Campbell. Adding Edmonton's first and shedding that big salary could open up some interesting possibilities for Florida.

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08-01-2013, 10:08 PM
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No hesitation. Done from Edmonton's end.

Campbell is a top-10 defenseman in the NHL. Though an adjustment or two would have to be made. The Oilers currently have 9 D on one-way contracts.
Uhh... sure...

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08-02-2013, 01:51 AM
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Maybe Florida would take back N.Schultz for a forward/prospect/pick. Overall not a bad proposal if the Panthers were willing to move Campbell. Adding Edmonton's first and shedding that big salary could open up some interesting possibilities for Florida.
Hemsky, N.Schultz, Musil, 2014 1st for Campbell? Full salaries retained on both sides

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In my thinking this gets Florida out from under the contract of Campbell, while adding scoring and adding a significant draft pick for next year. Oilers get a solid top line defenseman to work with the young guys coming up.
1) always be leery of the draft pick in hf trades. Means the players on that side are weak.

2) "gets Florida out from under the contract of ..." is always dangerous. What is FLA doing once they shed that contract? BOS needed to move Seguin to pay Rask ... FLA is in no such place.

3) moving an offensive d-man for a forward to "add scoring" is usually a bad idea. Algebra time ...

(Hemsky's offense) - (offense of FLA's current 12th forward) = H
(Campbell's impact on the FLA offense) - (FLA's 7D's impact on FLA's scoring) + (Campbell's defensive impact) - (FLA's 7D defensive impact) = C

Are we certain H > C?

I might suggest it's not.

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