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08-07-2013, 11:07 AM
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Dan Girardi

What would be a fair value trade for Girardi? Preferably a forward. Preferably a one for one trade.

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08-07-2013, 11:11 AM
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o'reilly at the deadline with elliot or a pick

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08-07-2013, 11:15 AM
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Not going to end well.

Girardi has the added value of being a righty shooting right side defenceman. One of the better ones in the game.

His value to the Rangers far exceeds what his percieved value is to other teams.

Understand that moving Girardi means that Stralman is the teams top R side defenceman.

Any offer being made needs to take that into consideration.

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Most people here don't understand the value of a top pairing right D. Prepare to be low balled.

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o'reilly at the deadline with elliot or a pick
I'd take O'Reilly.

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I'd take O'Reilly.
Even though his qualifying offer is going to be $6.5M?

Just to make sure that you're aware he's going be VERY expensive to sign.

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Even though his qualifying offer is going to be $6.5M?

Just to make sure that you're aware he's going be VERY expensive to sign.
Yeah.

Have a feeling that if Ryan doesn't sign long term at numbers less than what Dustin Brown got, he's going to be a UFA after this season.

Not sure he's a 6.5 kinda guy.

Like him, but that's an UGLY number unless he starts hitting the 60+ numbers while being the rock he is defensively.

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Even though his qualifying offer is going to be $6.5M?

Just to make sure that you're aware he's going be VERY expensive to sign.
I'm sure he would be willing to sign long term at a smaller cap hit probably in the 5.5 range for 5 years or so I'm guessing but then again i never could've predicted he would have held out like he did so really I'm just guessing based on nothing.

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I'd offer Teddy Purcell + high pick/good prospect.

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I'd offer Teddy Purcell + high pick/good prospect.
Pass.

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Even though his qualifying offer is going to be $6.5M?

Just to make sure that you're aware he's going be VERY expensive to sign.
Yes. And I would be okay with 6.5 on a long-term deal for a #1/2C to go along with Stepan for years to come.

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Yeah.

Have a feeling that if Ryan doesn't sign long term at numbers less than what Dustin Brown got, he's going to be a UFA after this season.

Not sure he's a 6.5 kinda guy.

Like him, but that's an UGLY number unless he starts hitting the 60+ numbers while being the rock he is defensively.
I think he will be the easiest to get done. He likes NY. He makes a good amount now, probably looking for a 1.2-1.3 million dollar a season raise from where he is at.

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I'm sure he would be willing to sign long term at a smaller cap hit probably in the 5.5 range for 5 years or so I'm guessing but then again i never could've predicted he would have held out like he did so really I'm just guessing based on nothing.
My thought as well. Get him to NY and sign him to a long-term extension immediately. He is an excellent 2-way center. He and Stepan would be a great 1/2 combo down the middle for years to come.

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I'd offer Teddy Purcell + high pick/good prospect.
Connolly +

That would be something I could do.

If the Rangers move Girardi they would be looking for a 1 for 1 swap OR a package of a very good young forward + young RD who they can mold (ala McDonagh when he was dealt for or Moore).

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Yes. And I would be okay with 6.5 on a long-term deal for a #1/2C to go along with Stepan for years to come.



I think he will be the easiest to get done. He likes NY. He makes a good amount now, probably looking for a 1.2-1.3 million dollar a season raise from where he is at.



My thought as well. Get him to NY and sign him to a long-term extension immediately. He is an excellent 2-way center. He and Stepan would be a great 1/2 combo down the middle for years to come.
agree with the bolded statement 100%.

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Connolly +

That would be something I could do.

If the Rangers move Girardi they would be looking for a 1 for 1 swap OR a package of a very good young forward + young RD who they can mold (ala McDonagh when he was dealt for or Moore).
Ah. I assumed Purcell had more value than Connolly for a team like the Rangers. I'd do it, depending on the +.

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I would love RoR at 5/30 million

You figure Stepan, RoR, Brassard, and Boyle down the middle for roughly 18-20 is very good depth for the next 5 years.

We have too many D in the system that will command more money than a D corps should be paid.

1st round picks alone that are playing well and will command money are McD, Staal, MDZ, and Moore; add in McIllrath and Skeji too.

RoR for Girardi is fine. Neither are signed beyond this year.

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Yeah.

Have a feeling that if Ryan doesn't sign long term at numbers less than what Dustin Brown got, he's going to be a UFA after this season.

Not sure he's a 6.5 kinda guy.

Like him, but that's an UGLY number unless he starts hitting the 60+ numbers while being the rock he is defensively.
Keep in mind that Calgary's offer sheet was backloaded to make his QO higher in order to make Colorado think about letting him go. His cap hit is $5 million. I don't think he'll be looking for much more than that (unless he does start hitting 60+ points, then all bets are off).

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6.5 is just the QO I don't know why people think he's going to demand 6.5 over 5 years or something like that. The 6.5 can also be taken to arbitration and come down.
something seems off here. What am i missing.

Team qualifies player at 6.5. Unless the player balks at that number, how can the team take him to arbitration?

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Yes. And I would be okay with 6.5 on a long-term deal for a #1/2C to go along with Stepan for years to come.
$6.5M is a lot to pay for a kid who has yet to break the 60 point barrier. I'm a fan of him, but that's simply too much money.

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I would love RoR at 5/30 million

You figure Stepan, RoR, Brassard, and Boyle down the middle for roughly 18-20 is very good depth for the next 5 years.

We have too many D in the system that will command more money than a D corps should be paid.

1st round picks alone that are playing well and will command money are McD, Staal, MDZ, and Moore; add in McIllrath and Skeji too.

RoR for Girardi is fine. Neither are signed beyond this year.
I think that makes some sense but isn't EJ a RD as well? Girardi is a RD.

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$6.5M is a lot to pay for a kid who has yet to break the 60 point barrier. I'm a fan of him, but that's simply too much money.
That's his QO. Sign him long-term at a smaller cap hit. If it gets to that point, I would give him his QO to get another year to negotiate. I think he is worth it.

I know it's a cliche but he brings so much more than just points to a team.

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Ah. I assumed Purcell had more value than Connolly for a team like the Rangers. I'd do it, depending on the +.
It would be a toss up. Considering their salaries, I would rather have something added to Connolly than just take Purcell. Just my opinion though.

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Qualifying him does not mean he signs it, could end up in arbitration or a holdout, or even another offersheet.

Only way I would want the Rangers to trade for ROR is if it was a sign and trade or something along the lines of having a deal worked out before hand.

Would love to see him with Stepan though.

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Qualifying him does not mean he signs it, could end up in arbitration or a holdout, or even another offersheet.

Only way I would want the Rangers to trade for ROR is if it was a sign and trade or something along the lines of having a deal worked out before hand.

Would love to see him with Stepan though.
I am sure Colorado would love a sign and trade so as to be able to get Girardi under contract as well.

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I know this is HF and all, but unless we are getting a proven commodity in returrn for Girardi, I'll pass.

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Disregarding his young age how is ROR not proven?
was referring to the Connolly+ for Girardi discussion.

As it relates to ROR, I'd love him on the Rangers. ROR at 5 to 5.25 per over 6 years is a deal I would make for Girardi.

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