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08-12-2013, 12:08 PM
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Why would they take less profits?

We're in a capitalist society with the goal is to make as much money as we can.
Because monopolies are bad for everyone. And I'm not sure who you mean by "we" but if your goal in life is to make as much money as you can then that's really sad.

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Because monopolies are bad for everyone. And I'm not sure who you mean by "we" but if your goal in life is to make as much money as you can then that's really sad.
All he did was only a summarizing of the North American society.

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I don't get why people think private industry should be subsidizing their profits for the goodwill of common folk. They will charge most possible to make the most possible. And they're trying to avoid competition because they owe it to their shareholders.

Are they supposed to be like '' Yes PLEAAAAAAASE BRING IN VERIZON !!!! "

The big 3 are behaving predictably, and who can blame them.

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08-12-2013, 12:43 PM
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Because monopolies are bad for everyone. And I'm not sure who you mean by "we" but if your goal in life is to make as much money as you can then that's really sad.
I was explaining how capitalism works, not everyone's personal beliefs and goals.

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I was explaining how capitalism works, not everyone's personal beliefs and goals.
You should be careful about using the term we then

But even in capitalist societies there are laws to prevent monopolies. The whole idea that competition is good is based on the principle that it will force companies to offer lower prices.

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Good job Sined. I laugh everytime I see the new prices with the two years deal. It's robbery.

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Unless another mod disagrees, I'd allow this to stay open. Considering we're an online community, I think this is pretty important information/discussion.

Rock on, Sined.

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Unless another mod disagrees, I'd allow this to stay open. Considering we're an online community, I think this is pretty important information/discussion.

Rock on, Sined.
Thanks man appreciate it.

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The prices have to be much higher in Canada. The area the cover is as big as the USA with a tenth of the population.
I'll admit this was something I believed as well till I read this:

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Big Telecom's own lobby group, the CWTA, has noted that Canada has just 13,000 wireless towers, a small fraction of the 52,000 found in the UK, which is only 1/40th our size.
Less towers == less installation costs + less maintenance

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All he did was only a summarizing of the North American society.
Quite different from other regions in the world where dictators and even elected governments rob their people blind left and right, only to be disposed and taken over by another equally or even more morally corrupt government.

These problems regarding greed isn't "North American", it's human.

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Cool. Thanks for that man.

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I'll admit this was something I believed as well till I read this:



Less towers == less installation costs + less maintenance
When people talk about size they also ignore the fact that something like 75% of the population is within a few hundred km of the US border.

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Best situation so far with these changes is people with 3 year contracts doing early upgrades that shorten their contracts while getting phone discounts the last couple days.

That has been amusing.

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The more competition Bell has, the better.

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Hi all,

This is really OT
Agreed

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I am all for a free market and having companies making money.
However as a Canadian society, we have been ***** and pillaged to no end by companies and the governement in their need for greed.

It really needs to stop. But no one has the stones to step up and end it.

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I would rather pay a little extra and have my money stay in Canada instead of going somewhere else

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Rogers and bell are the worst, I swear. Over charge for everything then proceed to put out those scum bags commercials. I seriously facepalm listening to those things on the radio.

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The amount of misinformation in these ads is simply staggering. Watching the phone carriers squirm over this is hilarious. The touch of nationalism they throw in there is just icing on the cake.

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I would rather pay a little extra and have my money stay in Canada instead of going somewhere else
Never as simple as that as the company is paying wages for employees, maintenance, taxes, etc.
Economics may cause there to be more money invested in than out even if the company is pulling a profit, so it may end up net positive (or you could be right and be net negative).
Always many variables and quite often changing.

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And here is the other thread we are discussing it too

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1481947

And I am pretty sure only older people might be worked over by this propaganda.

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I've moved all these threads from the canadian team forums to here, as it really has nothing to do with hockey or the teams, and isnt really city-specific OT stuff.

I believe harper has recently stated that he's not going to block verizon or change the rules on the upcomming spectrum auction or rules regarding bell/telus/rogers purchasing the 'newcomers' spectrum (wind/mobilicity). Therefore, even though the big 3 are continuing with their advertising campaigns, i dont see why canadians should even care anymore.

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When asked on how he felt if American cell phone companies were allowed in Canada, this was all Rad Jets Guy had to say:



Just don't tell Bell, Rogers, and Telus that...

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I was chatting with a girl in Zimbabwe who has both better, AND cheaper internet than we do in Canada.

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We are on par with quite a few 3rd world countries when it comes to our wireless and internet services. Not to mention some of the most expensive in the world by an extreme landslide.

Why on earth are you defending an extreme case of market-fixing collusion?

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Thanks for posting. Really ****ing hate the cell phone plans here, absolute garbage. Even the ones that have half-decent plans are still owned by bigger companies (Koodo -> Telus, Virgin -> Bell, Fido -> Rogers, chat-r -> Rogers); there's no god damn escape. Then you have Wind that has reasonable prices but the coverage blows chunks, and other smaller companies that simply can't compete in terms of offering the same level of network coverage.

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I was chatting with a girl in Zimbabwe who has both better, AND cheaper internet than we do in Canada.

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We are on par with quite a few 3rd world countries when it comes to our wireless and internet services. Not to mention some of the most expensive in the world by an extreme landslide.

Why on earth are you defending an extreme case of market-fixing collusion?
Yep, got family in Pakistan who have dirt-cheap plans too. Canadian cell phone plans are definitely up there in terms of being the worst.

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