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08-15-2013, 10:20 AM
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Basically:

Melnyk didn't give me what I deserved.

No where did Alfredsson say he joined Detroit for their contention status.

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Can someone give a synopsis.
Alfie agreed in his last contract to add a year at cheap for cap purposes. They agreed if he cam back he would be offered a better contract to make up for the $1m year. Ottawa didn't live up to their end.

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Can someone give a synopsis.
-Excited when he first came here
-Can't believe it's been 18 years
-Took a paycut to manage the cap
-wanted to sign an extension last summer
-wanted a raise this summer
-negotiations "stalled"
-Decided to go to Detroit

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give the journalist a mic please

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Ugh, can we get mics for the people asking questions?
Maybe it's just me but i always find this issue to be the case in any press conference....kinda hard to just listen to answers when one does not know how the question was framed.


OT: Damn you E. Pennypincher!!!!

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Cool.

Good luck Alfie, I'll always love you! Hope you lose though.

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Can someone give a synopsis.
- A farewell to Ottawa thanking everyone
- Club asked him to add on another year to his last contract to help with the cap. He agreed under the assumption he would retire and not play in 2012-13. (Can this get the Sens in trouble?
- He asked for an extension in the offseason (after 2012) and reminded them that he took a discount to help them. Negotiations didn't go far
- This offseason when he decided to return he again reminded them he took a discount to help them out. Obviously things didn't progress like he wanted

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Alfredson Presser

After listening to Alfie all my bad feeling to him are gone. However I am now furious with the club. He helped our team with extra term and they tried to stick it to him. I am really going to miss this classy, classy player. Shame on you Melynick/Murray.

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Alfie agreed in his last contract to add a year at cheap for cap purposes. They agreed if he cam back he would be offered a better contract to make up for the $1m year. Ottawa didn't live up to their end.
I knew it. The "chance to win" bs was him not throwing management under the bus. I think he saw that his reputation was being damaged so now he's being honest.

****ing Melnyk. Whatever you think Alfie was worth, management/ownership completely botched their approach.

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What do you think Karlsson is thinking listening to all of this...

Once EK65 contract is done, he's gone.

Melnyk banked on Alfies reputation.

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What do you think Karlsson is thinking listening to all of this...

Once EK65 contract is done, he's gone.
Ryan etc...

They might not leave, but no one will be doing Eugene Melnyk any favours.

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Can somebody link me to the complete interview when it's finished? I want to watch it from start to finish.

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The question is:

how much did he ask for and how much did we offer?

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Eugene Melnyk won't be the owner when Karlssons contract is finished so don't worry about that.

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Alfredsson doesn't mention the blank cheque even after the reporter asked him.

Something tells me Alfie's lying.

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way to go Melnyk you ****ing idiot

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Wow, i hate that *****. Dont cut alfie off when he wants to go on.

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I found it neat that Alfie started talking at 11:11

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Alfredsson doesn't mention the blank cheque even after the reporter asked him.

Something tells me Alfie's lying.
Melnyk never mentioned it either, so...

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Melnyk never mentioned it either, so...
I'm just puzzled that Alfie would say what he did about management and miss out on calling them out on the blank cheque comment.

Bryan Murray's presser seemed on point to what both sides were saying, Alfie left some things out and so did Melnyk.

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Alfredsson doesn't mention the blank cheque even after the reporter asked him.

Something tells me Alfie's lying.
no he's not, the blanks cheque was after he stopped calling back, after he was told in GMBM words his offer was unfair.

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I'm just puzzled that Alfie would say what he did about management and miss out on calling them out on the blank cheque comment.

Bryan Murray's presser seemed on point to what both sides were saying, Alfie left some things out and so did Melnyk.
Agreed.

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Alfredsson doesn't mention the blank cheque even after the reporter asked him.

Something tells me Alfie's lying.
The whole blank cheque thing was debunked a long time ago.
In fact it was introduced by Murray the day before Alfie left and hastily taken back the next day when Alfies agent spoke up and the story about he "unfair: remark came out.

Alfie has not been the self serving one here. In fact he fell on his sword and took all the blame initially.

The twisting and shouting and self serving PR by Murray and Melnyk pushed him into coming clean.

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I can't say I'm too surprised at what he had to say, but I am a bit curious as to why he'd intentionally mention the attempted cap circumvention. Does he not realize he's to blame for that, too? Melnyk may have broken an understanding, but negotiations occur based on future worth, not past worth. Not even for Alfredsson.

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The blank cheque was after initial talks, I assume he already decided to go to Detroit before that offer was made, really no reason to mention it.

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