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08-14-2013, 04:05 PM
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Plekanec to Chicago

Here's another Plekanec to Chicago offer, but this is only assuming the Habs are in no position to make the playoffs by the trade deadline.

to MTL: Danault, Hartman
to Chicago: Plekanec

Chicago is in a definitive need of a second line center and Plekanec is as good as they come. Hartman and Danault both offer the Habs some intangibles, hard workers, physical players, both can be considered as two way players, one french kid which is always a plus around the obsessed media here...

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08-14-2013, 04:08 PM
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Here's another Plekanec to Chicago offer, but this is only assuming the Habs are in no position to make the playoffs by the trade deadline.

to MTL: Danault, Hartman
to Chicago: Plekanec

Chicago is in a definitive need of a second line center and Plekanec is as good as they come. Hartman and Danault both offer the Habs some intangibles, hard workers, physical players, both can be considered as two way players, one french kid which is always a plus around the obsessed media here...
No thanks. Firstly, Chicago isn't "in a definitive need of a second line centre" - it did just fine winning the Cup this year and it has prospects in the system who look ready or near-ready to fill the role. Secondly, Chicago doesn't have space for Plekanec's contract.

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Makes no sense for Chicago and not enough of a return for Montreal to consider it.

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Chicago is in such "definitive need" of a second line center that they just won the Stanley Cup with a mostly-broken Michal Handzus playing there.

No thanks. Our need for a second line center has proven to be over-exaggerated, we can't take on Pleks' contract right now, and we're more than happy to give Pirri a shot there to start the season.

Plus, I love Danault and Hartman.

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08-14-2013, 04:12 PM
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No thanks...habs will keep Plekanec since we're in no position to lose him. No one is ready to take over the #1C.

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Well, since it's a trade deadline scenario... if the Habs (or any team these days) are truly out of the playoff race at the trade deadline, then it is really a disastrous season and we're looking at a top-5 lottery pick as well. If things have gone *that* wrong for the Habs, then, assuming nothing untoward has occurred in Danault and Hartman's development, I'd probably be ok with the deal.

The Habs can't replace Plekanec with prospects today, nor would they be able to do so in the hopefully more likely scenario of a season in which they are in the hunt for a playoff spot... but if the team is reduced to another top-5 pick season, then all bets are off, and it probably matters less if we keep our best, but most veteran, center around.

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Pass from the Habs. Not enough coming back to us to warrant us moving him, especially with our future 1 and 2 centres still too young to take over those spots. Once Galchenyuk and Eller are ready for those roles and the added responsibility that Plekanec has, then Plekanec is expendable, but not now. Besides, if we move Plekanec now, who takes the key defensive draws and the draws on the PK?

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Makes no sense for Chicago and not enough of a return for Montreal to consider it.
Agreed.

Now we can high five each other and grab a beer, instead of squabbling over players that will never be traded for each other!

That's a win-win!

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Chicago is in such "definitive need" of a second line center that they just won the Stanley Cup with a mostly-broken Michal Handzus playing there.

No thanks. Our need for a second line center has proven to be over-exaggerated, we can't take on Pleks' contract right now, and we're more than happy to give Pirri a shot there to start the season.

Plus, I love Danault and Hartman.
Was Bolland just THAT bad of a fit at the 2C spot, or was it because he was perfect in the 3C spot?

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Was Bolland just THAT bad of a fit at the 2C spot, or was it because he was perfect in the 3C spot?
Bolland played on the 4th line in the playoffs. Shaw was our 3C for the entire year.

Bolland was easily our worst forward all season long, playing nothing like his usual self. Nobody really knows why, though most assume it was due to lingering injuries. There were a lot of people that thought he would step it up in the postseason like he always did, but even there he was really lacking.

It's possible his injury history has caught up with him, but most Hawks fans are hoping he bounces back with Toronto. When he's on, he's a great player to have. Especially come playoff time.

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Not enough going ack to mtl .... No way mtl even consider this

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Value aside, Plekanec's contract runs through '15-'16 at 5M. Both Kane and Toews contracts are up at the end of '14-'15. We can't afford to be committing 5M in cap space to Pleks even though I think he's a great player.

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Why are people so insistent that Plekanec goes to Chicago?

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What an original and novel concept.

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Ahh the monthly Plekanec to Chicago thread.

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This doesn't make sense on any level. First and foremost, Chicago doesn't have the cap-space to make this deal and you have no salary going back to Montreal. Second, Chicago has numerous centre prospects coming through the system, and a few of them are knocking on the door (within the next 2 years) in Pirri, LeBlanc, Danault and Teravainen - considering Chicago just won the Stanley Cup with Michal Handzus as their 2nd line centre, do you really think they have any interest in investing 5M in cap space at the position when they could give a talented, cheap option like Pirri or LeBlanc a chance? Not to mention Teravainen coming over next year.

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08-15-2013, 09:43 AM
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Hawk fans need to realize that you can always improve. Just because you're Cup champs doesn't mean you shouldn't be looking to make improvements.

Kings fans were replying with the same comments last year and look what happened.

That aside, Hawks would need to send salary back and the only guy the Habs will want to build a deal around would be Seabrook.

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No.

No cap space for this deal.
..and this is too much to begin with. 2 1st round picks for Plekanec is too much for a player we don't really need.

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No where close to the return we'd be looking for. As well, that just doesn't suit the Blackhawks' needs.

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[QUOTE=CanadienShark;70225007]No where close to the return we'd be looking for. As well, that just doesn't suit the Blackhawks' needs.[/QU

Pleks would indeed fit the Hawks need for a #2c,but he costs way too much even if they had the capspace.Also the return to Montreal is probably about right.Two first rd prospects that could make up 2/3rds of an excellent 3rd line.The Habs wont be looking for a #1c as the trading of Pleks would probably mean they think Galchenyuk(sp) is ready to take that job.I think the Habs would seriously consider this deal.

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Chicago is in a definitive need of a second line center and Plekanec is as good as they come.
right... what a big need it is when you won the Cup without a #2 C twice in 4 years while both of those players are still on the roster

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Kings fans were replying with the same comments last year and look what happened.
after winning the Cup, they just lost in the Conf Finals and ended up as one of the last 4 teams. I'd take that season as a Habs fan for sure

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08-15-2013, 12:22 PM
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Have a full year of Handzus as your second line center and we'll talk again. The guy just had a good playoff run and now he's labelled as a legit second line center.

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Have a full year of Handzus as your second line center and we'll talk again. The guy just had a good playoff run and now he's labelled as a legit second line center.
He was in playoffs ,, Will he be again? Doubtful

But he is insurance if Pirri fails to work out as #2 C. Handzus showed chemistry with both Sharp/Hossa so he isn't the worst option to have as a backup if Pirri falters

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He was in playoffs ,, Will he be again? Doubtful

But he is insurance if Pirri fails to work out as #2 C. Handzus showed chemistry with both Sharp/Hossa so he isn't the worst option to have as a backup if Pirri falters
And we have Kruger, Leblanc, Shaw, Danault who can possibly fill the role. We don't need a 5mil 2nd line C. We have young kids who can do an adequate job until 1 of them takes it and runs with it.

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Have a full year of Handzus as your second line center and we'll talk again. The guy just had a good playoff run and now he's labelled as a legit second line center.
Only by people that are bitter because their trade proposal got rejected.

The point wasn't that Handzus is a legit 2nd line center, it was the exact opposite. The Hawks can roll someone who clearly is not a legit 2nd line center and still go all the way.

With that in mind, why should the Hawks pay for premium players like Pleks when they've proven they can win with only putting passable players there like Handzus or (potentially) Pirri?


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