HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Ottawa Senators
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

The sens will be top 5 in scoring in 2013-14

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
08-18-2013, 12:04 AM
  #1
Fenix Rises 2026
Alfie forever!
 
Fenix Rises 2026's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,482
vCash: 500
The sens will be top 5 in scoring in 2013-14

Here's the rationale.

Sens scored 112 goals last season - 2nd fewest in the league.

However....

Make some relatively conservative extrapolations based on our current roster and a moderately healthy season, and you really quickly get up near the top of the league.


Thoughts?

Fenix Rises 2026 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 12:26 AM
  #2
HavlatMach9
Registered User
 
HavlatMach9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenix Rises 2026 View Post
Here's the rationale.

Sens scored 112 goals last season - 2nd fewest in the league.



Make some relatively conservative extrapolations based on our current roster and a moderately healthy season, and you really quickly get up near the top of the league.


Thoughts?
Conservative extrapolations leads to a jump fr om 29th to top 5 . Well it doesn't work like that, you need to see what the team on paper actually does. Oh wait, that team looks like the 11-12 season when we were top 5. Aww yiss.

HavlatMach9 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 01:33 AM
  #3
Do Make Say Think
d00 da Bieber
 
Do Make Say Think's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 24,492
vCash: 500
Top 5 is pretty considerable

Yeah the team was fourth in scoring in 2011-2012 but I'm not comfortable saying it's going to happen again

Top 10 I could see myself calling

Top 5 is a lot harder

Do Make Say Think is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 01:44 AM
  #4
Samsquanch
Creep
 
Samsquanch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sudbury
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,207
vCash: 500
When this team is firing on all cylinders playing Mac's system, its certainly reasonable. Heck we were 4th in 2011-2012, which I would have never, ever predicted before that season started. Now that it's somewhat expected, Im not so sure it will happen.

But at the end of the day, I expect a big year from Spezza, Karlsson, Ryan, and a coming out party for Turris (north of 60pts), so I would think that would move us into that bracket. *Fingers corssed*

Samsquanch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 01:51 AM
  #5
Senators65
Registered User
 
Senators65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 12,767
vCash: 437
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samsquanch View Post
When this team is firing on all cylinders playing Mac's system, its certainly reasonable. Heck we were 4th in 2011-2012, which I would have never, ever predicted before that season started. Now that it's somewhat expected, Im not so sure it will happen.

But at the end of the day, I expect a big year from Spezza, Karlsson, Ryan, and a coming out party for Turris (north of 60pts), so I would think that would move us into that bracket. *Fingers corssed*
I might be the only one, but i am also expecting a big year from MacArthur as well.

Senators65 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 02:09 AM
  #6
Karl Cowensson
Two Headed Monster!
 
Karl Cowensson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,158
vCash: 500
Our top 6 is definitely better than it was in the 11-12 season, but a lot will be riding on Karlsson, Spezza and Michalek's health is we are to return to a top 5 offensive team.

Karl Cowensson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 03:24 AM
  #7
Jonathan81
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 232
vCash: 500
Spezza, Ryan, Turris, Michalek, Zibanejad, Conacher, KARLSSON......should be enough for 200 goals at the very least but i expect more...much more

Jonathan81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 03:25 AM
  #8
krapsik
Registered User
 
krapsik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Estonia
Country: Estonia
Posts: 651
vCash: 500
Best way for Melnyk & Co to shut up all this "internal budget" BS and win fans to their side, is make one bold move before season starts. So i predict we start the season with better top 6 than we think it is now.
Top 5 - booring. Top 3 -

Mikhalek-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Grabovsky?/Selanne?/???????

krapsik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 05:48 AM
  #9
Vesa Awesaka
PuempeltoBorotoAndy
 
Vesa Awesaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bath
Country: Belarus
Posts: 9,367
vCash: 500
Top 10 theres just more quality scorers on other teams although i suspect we get near the top 5

Vesa Awesaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 07:09 AM
  #10
tony d
ATD 2015
 
tony d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Behind A Tree
Country: Canada
Posts: 39,140
vCash: 500
Don't see us being top 5, Top 10 is a more reasonable goal and target.

__________________
tony d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 07:35 AM
  #11
Blotto71
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 152
vCash: 500
There will not be any further moves (IMO), top 6 starts out something like:
Conacher-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Michalek
That way both Ryan and Michalek play the right side...their natural and preferred position. Zibanejad plays between Greening and Condra. Neil-Smith-JOB/Kassian/Hoffman.

...and yes, that line-up can be top 5 in goals this season.

Blotto71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 07:49 AM
  #12
FolignoQuantumLeap
A mad Mup
 
FolignoQuantumLeap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: A Blue Box
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,115
vCash: 500
Spezza - 60 goals
Ryan - 75 goals
Zibanejad - 50 goals
Michalek - 40 goals (in 20 games)
Conacher - 45 goals
Macarthur - 46 goals
Karlsson - 35 goals
Turris - 50 goals
Greening - 1 goal

Conservative estimate.

FolignoQuantumLeap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 08:35 AM
  #13
Fenix Rises 2026
Alfie forever!
 
Fenix Rises 2026's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,482
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by FolignoQuantumLeap View Post
Spezza - 60 goals
Ryan - 75 goals
Zibanejad - 50 goals
Michalek - 40 goals (in 20 games)
Conacher - 45 goals
Macarthur - 46 goals
Karlsson - 35 goals
Turris - 50 goals
Greening - 1 goal

Conservative estimate.
You sir are crazy. Greening will never hit that target.

Fenix Rises 2026 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 08:43 AM
  #14
Fenix Rises 2026
Alfie forever!
 
Fenix Rises 2026's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,482
vCash: 500
Will be interesting to see who pots more - Spezza, Ryan or contract-year Michalek.

Fenix Rises 2026 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 09:31 AM
  #15
peter67
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nepean
Country: Canada
Posts: 54
vCash: 500
No Alfie. No Gonchar.
There's no way we will be top five in scoring. NONE.
Don't forget how many times Alfie scored key goals especially in the playoffs. We are going to miss him.

peter67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 09:34 AM
  #16
qc
#TeamClode
 
qc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 12,504
vCash: 69
Top 10 fo sho.

qc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 10:02 AM
  #17
MiscBrah
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,907
vCash: 500
I've been saying this for awhile now! I don't think they're going to be top 5 though, I think they will be top 2.

I don't know why people are underestimating our fire power. We're going to dominate next season. I can't ****ing wait!!

MiscBrah is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 10:10 AM
  #18
Holdurbreathe
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,986
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by krapsik View Post
Best way for Melnyk & Co to shut up all this "internal budget" BS and win fans to their side, is make one bold move before season starts. So i predict we start the season with better top 6 than we think it is now.
Top 5 - booring. Top 3 -

Mikhalek-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Grabovsky?/Selanne?/???????
Doubt there will be any adds without subtraction.

Melnyk isn't going to just spend more after all his public statements about containing cost, being financial responsible and needing additional revenue streams.

Holdurbreathe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 10:20 AM
  #19
MAK19
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 14,147
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by QC View Post
Top 10 fo sho.

MAK19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 12:41 PM
  #20
DJB
Sens best prospect
 
DJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,915
vCash: 2480
Doubt we will be top 10. In the two years that Maclean has been here we have struggled to generate offence. I don't see it changing much. Out of the bottom 10 would be nice though and certainly achievable.

DJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 01:02 PM
  #21
Senators65
Registered User
 
Senators65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 12,767
vCash: 437
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJB View Post
Doubt we will be top 10. In the two years that Maclean has been here we have struggled to generate offence. I don't see it changing much. Out of the bottom 10 would be nice though and certainly achievable.
What are you talking about? We were in the top 5 in goals for in the 2011-2012 season. For a team that you say struggled to generate offence, that is pretty impressive. If spezza, michalek, ryan and karlsson all stay healthy, then getting into the top 10 in goals for is certainly achievable imo.


Last edited by Senators65: 08-18-2013 at 01:35 PM.
Senators65 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 01:28 PM
  #22
ScottyGreene
The other guys
 
ScottyGreene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ottawa, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 329
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJB View Post
Doubt we will be top 10. In the two years that Maclean has been here we have struggled to generate offence. I don't see it changing much. Out of the bottom 10 would be nice though and certainly achievable.
The only way we'll struggle offensively is if all our offensive players get hurt...

But what are the chances of that happening?


ScottyGreene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 02:34 PM
  #23
Qward
Because! That's why!
 
Qward's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Behind you, look out
Posts: 14,084
vCash: 500
2011/12 we scored 249 putting us in a tie for 4th with Vancouver.

It is very conceivable we get back to that plateau with a healthy roster.

Qward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 03:05 PM
  #24
trentmccleary
Registered User
 
trentmccleary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Alfie-Ville
Posts: 18,879
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qward View Post
2011/12 we scored 249 putting us in a tie for 4th with Vancouver.

It is very conceivable we get back to that plateau with a healthy roster.
NHL.com had us at 243 and clearly in 4th over Vancouver (241). You might have found something with shootout goals.

Hmm, I thought I was being realistic, yet conservative here:

Spezza 25 65
B. Ryan 30 60
Michalek 25 50
K. Turris 23 50
MacArthur 20 45
Zibanejad 17 40
Karlsson 15 60
Greening 15 35
Conacher 15 35
Condra 10 25
C. Neil 10 25
J. Corvo 7 30
Wiercioch 7 30
Total 219 550

My goal total seems very high only 13 players in, but I don't think those projections are overly optimistic.

trentmccleary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-18-2013, 03:25 PM
  #25
Qward
Because! That's why!
 
Qward's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Behind you, look out
Posts: 14,084
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by trentmccleary View Post
NHL.com had us at 243 and clearly in 4th over Vancouver (241). You might have found something with shootout goals.

Qward is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:33 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.