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Montreal signs Douglas Murray [1 Year/$1.5 million]

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08-22-2013, 02:55 PM
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What does Brandon Prust fighting a useless giant has to do with this thread again? Nothing? Ah ok bye.

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08-22-2013, 02:57 PM
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He's not even an NHL player..... he belong in the ECHL.
But he made Prust look like naaaah

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08-22-2013, 02:57 PM
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I don't get the Habs... I know they got smoked by the Sens, but adding Slow Grit goes against their model. It is their speed and creativity that allowed them to beat teams like the Bruins in the regular season, now I feel they are adding Grit to compete with the Bruins, Ottawa and Leafs in that style of game. They are making a compromise on their style of play and it might bite them in the ass.
Id rather risk getting bit in the ass than having it handed to us, again and again. no one is celebrating the division title last year.

We play in a division with a lot of beef, and sans emelin we could not clear the front of the net. Our fourth line has some jam and now we have some size on the back end which might give us the opportunity to let tinordi grow another year in hamilton.

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You can put him on the top line if you pair him with a good mobile defenseman.
Did you get a time machine and mix your post up with 2010 or something? Because even then I'd argue he was pretty bad with Boyle.

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08-22-2013, 02:59 PM
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Was referencing Burns' (nonexistent) time at forward which you referenced. Believe me, there's no player currently playing in the NHL I'd rather not see on my team.

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08-22-2013, 03:04 PM
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Not sure if serious.....White would get kill by Carkner or Boulton
I like whitey, but your right he wants nothing to do with carkner. but that's not such a big deal now as we dont have to ask out middleweights to fight out of their weight class as much.

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08-22-2013, 03:08 PM
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I like this move for the Canadians. They just got a lot of grit on their bottom D pairing and someone for Subban to hide behind.

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08-22-2013, 03:11 PM
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I like whitey, but your right he wants nothing to do with carkner. but that's not such a big deal now as we dont have to ask out middleweights to fight out of their weight class as much.
Totally agree! I like the lineup now!!!! If only we could trade Desharnais for a bigger 3rd line center......

Paciorrety-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Briere
Bourque-Desharnais-Gionta
Prust-White-Moen/Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Diaz
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08-22-2013, 03:17 PM
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Surely no one out there considers it so much better to be paying Braun $1.25 million to play on that same pairing... or 3 times as much (with a NTC) for what Vlasic brings them.
As stated, Braun was 1/2 of our shutdown pairing in the playoffs last year and is a vastly more serviceable D-man than Murray. Vlasic is among the best defensive D-man in the league (better version of Gorges?), so he easily worth 3x more than Murray. Murray is good positionally (PK) and will block shots, clear the crease and stick up for team mates, but he is to the point where his lack of foot speed can really be exploited - and he brings 0 offense (scoring or transitional play/1st pass). Murray was one of my favorite Sharks and still love watching his hit highlights, but those days are mostly behind him. He was just too slow to play in the Sharks system, and the pick up in team speed once we moved Murray and Clowe translated directly to wins.

In terms of Murray fighting, he doesn't fight all that often because frankly many guys won't fight him, the comment previously about him laughing in Neil's face and no reaction probably speaks to that. The dude is scary strong - 240#+ and reputedly had the lowest body fat % on the Sharks. He has beat the hell out of a number of legit fighters, there is no question about his fighting ability.

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08-22-2013, 03:26 PM
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I like this move for the Canadians. They just got a lot of grit on their bottom D pairing and someone for Subban to hide behind.
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08-22-2013, 03:27 PM
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He can't score, he can't skate fast but HE CAN HIT!

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08-22-2013, 03:31 PM
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Totally agree! I like the lineup now!!!! If only we could trade Desharnais for a bigger 3rd line center......

Paciorrety-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Briere
Bourque-Desharnais-Gionta
Prust-White-Moen/Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Diaz
--Bouillon

Price
Budaj

Was just thinking the exact same thing...imagine a guy like Jarret Stoll in that slot ...Thats how id like to see the lineup also

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08-22-2013, 03:33 PM
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Totally agree! I like the lineup now!!!! If only we could trade Desharnais for a bigger 3rd line center......

Paciorrety-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Briere
Bourque-Desharnais-Gionta
Prust-White-Moen/Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Diaz
--Bouillon

Price
Budaj
I know that we dont have a lot of choice in the matter but that third line looks exploitable, and its still not clear whether Briere will play the wing or not, or if its been decided I have not heard it.

This is not the destination but its a step in the right direction. I think we are stuck with DD, his value now is really really low. If that keeps up no one still wants him, if he up's his play everyone will say he deserves more time.

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08-22-2013, 03:44 PM
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Murray will be sheltered, mostly PK and defensive zone draw work on the third pairing.

He's a great fit.

Anyone complaining about him being slow, need to realize the habs have enough speed. We need size/toughness, and can easily shelter Murray for defensive zone draws/PK work only.



Tinordi-Subban
Markov-Gorges
Murray-Diaz/Boullion
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08-22-2013, 03:45 PM
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As long as he's their 6th Defenseman, this is a great signing for Montreal.

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08-22-2013, 03:58 PM
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He can't be slower than Hal Gill ( ) and he's surely tougher.
My thoughts exactly. To those claiming Murray is slow - we've seen true sloooowness, and his name is Hall Gill.

That said - I loved having Gill on the Habs. Good mentor for the kids...

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08-22-2013, 04:04 PM
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One thing Habs fans will no doubt enjoy is watching Murray work in the corners. Oftentimes opposing forwards turn their back to him to protect the puck, and he just shoves/hurls them to the ice and takes it. It is amazing how strong he is *IF* he can initiate contact.

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08-22-2013, 04:04 PM
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Pens used him on the PP once, maybe he has a future there?
Hehe, who knows what he really can do on the offence:
During the lockout:


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They needed a crease clearer and got one for 1.5 million. People who think this is a bad move need to realize you don't go out in FA and sign star defenseman with size, just doesn't happen. You draft them, and fill in the bottom pairings the best you can to fit the need for your club. This move does that for MTL.
His a role-player, clear the crease, hit stuff, knows the length of his leash, can fight. As long as there are room on the rooster to allow for such a limited player he is just great.

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He's a smart player. It's how he survived in the league for so long with little mobility (which used to be better than now, but was never what I'd call "good"). Always plays within his limitations. Always cognizant of the possibility of being caught in the wrong place, which he can't recover from.
Pretty much so. Question why is not the league littered with +240 pound players? Probably because most of them are to slow. Murray is among the few (~20) who can defend his position as a NHL-player at that weight.

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08-22-2013, 04:09 PM
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It will be interesting to see how he handles being on such a strong skating team

Decent bottom pairing dman; I doubt he'll be a factor for Montreal but they can use someone like him

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08-22-2013, 04:11 PM
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Solid #5 or #6. Definitely not a flashy player, but he can get the job done. Nice pickup for the Habs.

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08-22-2013, 04:12 PM
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It will be interesting to see how he handles being on such a strong skating team

Decent bottom pairing dman; I doubt he'll be a factor for Montreal but they can use someone like him
Bien dit vieux!

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08-22-2013, 04:14 PM
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habs don't do anything and they're weak and soft. they sign a solid bottom pairing tough d man and he's an ECHLer. Make up your ****ing minds. unless of course you're only here to be obnoxious. Murray will play bottom pairing minutes on a D corps that is full of undersized puck movers.

I know it's disappointing for the haters but the Habs are slowly getting bigger and tougher.


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08-22-2013, 04:16 PM
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habs don't do anything and they're weak and soft. they sign a solid bottom pairing tough d man and he's an ECHLer. Make up your ****ing minds. unless of course you're only here to be obnoxious. Murray will play bottom pairing minutes on a D corps that is full of undersized puck movers.

I know it's disappointing for the haters but the Habs are slowly getting bigger and tougher.
Buddy, you signed a bottom pairing dman

It's really not that big of a deal


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08-22-2013, 04:16 PM
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"Softest team in the NHL", so they say :

George Parros
Brandon Prust
Travis Moen
Ryan White
PK Subban
Alexei Emelin
Douglas Murray
Francis Bouillon
Jarred Tinordi

And we're not even talking about all the other players who weights over 210 lbs : Pacioretty, Bourque, Eller, Drewiske. Or the small players who "play big" : Gallagher, Gionta, Gorges, etc.

But this is still soft, apparently.

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He's good in his role and very effective on the PK. Paired with a good skater he is someone that can solidify a bottom pairing.

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