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Montreal signs Douglas Murray [1 Year/$1.5 million]

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08-22-2013, 04:26 PM
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I don't see the big deal about a one year contract. He fills in a gap that will likely be closed up the following year by Tinordi and the pay is irrelevant when it comes to one year deals.

He'll play bottom pairing minutes and he's paid to hit and clear the crease. I have no problem with him or the contract.

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08-22-2013, 04:43 PM
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Why is his face always red ?

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08-22-2013, 04:45 PM
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Good signing for the Habs. They have a temporary hole to fill and he fits in perfectly. Even if he ends up being horrible, not a big deal at 1.5mil

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08-22-2013, 04:50 PM
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"Softest team in the NHL", so they say :

George Parros
Brandon Prust
Travis Moen
Ryan White
PK Subban
Alexei Emelin
Douglas Murray
Francis Bouillon
Jarred Tinordi

And we're not even talking about all the other players who weights over 210 lbs : Pacioretty, Bourque, Eller, Drewiske. Or the small players who "play big" : Gallagher, Gionta, Gorges, etc.

But this is still soft, apparently.
we were soft, we are getting better and georges is 6'1 200 so hes not close to being in the same class as gio or gallagher. and drewiske would be 265, hes not scaring anyone the way he plays.

Look at the team at the start of the year, the only real difference was the lack of parros and then when emelin went down the wheels fell off. I'm not sure we ice a team with both emelin and murray so the most likely scenario is that we have a replacement for emelin while he heals and depth when he comes back ( depending on whether tinordi is in hamilton or not)

we still have a very undersized top 6 and out 4th line guys are going to have a hard time protecting out top 6 from the bench. I like the moves so far but we are still a middle of the pack team in our own division. good moves but hopefully not the end.

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08-22-2013, 05:02 PM
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"Softest team in the NHL", so they say :

George Parros
Brandon Prust
Travis Moen
Ryan White
PK Subban
Alexei Emelin
Douglas Murray
Francis Bouillon
Jarred Tinordi

And we're not even talking about all the other players who weights over 210 lbs : Pacioretty, Bourque, Eller, Drewiske. Or the small players who "play big" : Gallagher, Gionta, Gorges, etc.

But this is still soft, apparently.
Theory is fun, but proving it via practice is another story.

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08-22-2013, 05:02 PM
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Markov-Subban
Gorges-Diaz
Bouillon-
Drewiskie-
Emelin-
Murray-
Tinordi-
Beaulieu-

It would be really nice to have more than two RHD.... Guess it's not essential.


Once everyone comes back...

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Diaz
(Bouillon, Drewiskie)

That's a pretty nicely balanced d-corps.

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08-22-2013, 05:27 PM
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we were soft, we are getting better and georges is 6'1 200 so hes not close to being in the same class as gio or gallagher. and drewiske would be 265, hes not scaring anyone the way he plays.

Look at the team at the start of the year, the only real difference was the lack of parros and then when emelin went down the wheels fell off. I'm not sure we ice a team with both emelin and murray so the most likely scenario is that we have a replacement for emelin while he heals and depth when he comes back ( depending on whether tinordi is in hamilton or not)

we still have a very undersized top 6 and out 4th line guys are going to have a hard time protecting out top 6 from the bench. I like the moves so far but we are still a middle of the pack team in our own division. good moves but hopefully not the end.
And why is that? I, for one, don't think Diaz played like an NHL defenseman after coming back from his injury last season. I also don't think Bouillon gives us what Murray can give us. I also don't think Drewiske should see any playing time on a healthy lineup. And I don't think Tinordi right now is better at this role than Murray is.

Once everyone is healthy:

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Murray - Bouillon/Diaz

This is how I see it. What I saw from Diaz in the last playoffs just let a very, very sour taste in my mouth.

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08-22-2013, 05:38 PM
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Your fans will rapidly adopt Murray as a fan fav. He is a SOLID #6 and will help your team size issue. Opposing forwards that have missed the memo from the west will try to run Murray, and will be flattened in the process. He is tough to move. Good term and price.

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Your fans will rapidly adopt Murray as a fan fav. He is a SOLID #6 and will help your team size issue. Opposing forwards that have missed the memo from the west will try to run Murray, and will be flattened in the process. He is tough to move. Good term and price.
Thanks for the report!

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Theory is fun, but proving it via practice is another story.
Sounds like something the Leafs were doing from 04-12

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08-22-2013, 05:52 PM
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Thing is with Murray that last year he hit the bars and nightclubs quite hard when playing in Stockholm for Djurgården. After the lockout decision, not playing games and train regularly and then start playing but at the same time living a larger life... To a guy like Murray thats bad news as he already was slowest in the League.

Thats the reason for his decline in mobility from gear 1 to parking.

This year though, if he hits the camp hard and step up his preparations again there is a chance he will bounce back. So it could turn out really well for the Habs. With a quite big if of course.

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08-22-2013, 06:00 PM
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He's a smart player. It's how he survived in the league for so long with little mobility (which used to be better than now, but was never what I'd call "good"). Always plays within his limitations. Always cognizant of the possibility of being caught in the wrong place, which he can't recover from.
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Guess we have different definitions of "hockey IQ". Because those qualities aren't intelligent in my opinion. Those qualities are just knowing how to play within your limits.
And that's not part of hockey IQ?...

That's as un-Phaneuf as you can be.

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08-22-2013, 06:00 PM
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Viking blood rage obviously.


You guys will love when some forward from the eastern conference tries to hit him and will instead get thrown away like a small child.

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Buddy, you signed a bottom pairing dman

It's really not that big of a deal
Yes, I agree he is a bottom pairing defenceman. I disagree with your assessment of the difference he WILL make to the Habs. Murray is the kind of guy we have needed in the d-corps for awhile:hard hitting, crease clearing, and able to fight. Murray will make a difference for us in terms of rotecting Price and making our defence stronger. We are a fast team, so having a slower player won't hurt as long as he plays his role intelligently. Murray seems able to do that. What Murray DOES bring to the Habs will make a difference and translate into more wins.

I am not saying Murray is the Cup winning piece, but he will be one of the more important signings for our team. He will make a difference. I really want to see Lucic come up the middle with Murray waiting there for him!

Fun discussion, so far, though...


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Could just go by playstyle (team was able to play a lot faster), and by who replaced him. It looked like Todd McLellan played Murray so much last season in order to try and up his trade value; that and for some reason, he hates Demers. With Murray out of the line-up, Demers was finally able to play (and he's a lot better than Murray).
Demers actually had more ice time per game before Murray was traded.

18:45 before Murray went away.

18:27 in the 10 games he played (out of 18 played by the Sharks) after Murray was traded.

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Good to see crankshaft get a deal. Hopefully he trains hard and bounces back

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Thing is with Murray that last year he hit the bars and nightclubs quite hard when playing in Stockholm for Djurgården. After the lockout decision, not playing games and train regularly and then start playing but at the same time living a larger life... To a guy like Murray thats bad news as he already was slowest in the League.
Thats the reason for his decline in mobility from gear 1 to parking.

This year though, if he hits the camp hard and step up his preparations again there is a chance he will bounce back. So it could turn out really well for the Habs. With a quite big if of course.
Sound like the perfect kind of project for Michel Therrien

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so then isn't every team in the league soft until the seaosn starts? lol

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Sounds like something the Leafs were doing from 04-12
Habs have skill to go along with it ++ a competent goalie.

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so then isn't every team in the league soft until the seaosn starts? lol
Nah, just the Habs.

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I wonder if Michel Therrien was consulted on the signing? It will be interesting to see how MT uses his D and Murray this year.

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they will like him in montreal

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my guess, 2m base, an additional 2m in easily obtained perf bonuses.
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so then isn't every team in the league soft until the seaosn starts? lol
When you team gets physically dominated by the Ottawa Senators you live with the "soft" label for the off-season

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so then isn't every team in the league soft until the season starts? lol
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Nah, just the Habs.
Yeah. Habs are the definition of "soft".

So them getting Murray just made the whole league softer.

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