HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Traverse City Tournament 2013

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-08-2013, 08:19 PM
  #751
Cresto
Much Disappoint
 
Cresto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,449
vCash: 500
THe win really doesn't matter at this point. All that's important is that the top offensive talents perform well.

Cresto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-08-2013, 09:08 PM
  #752
Tawnos
Moderator
BoH Mod Only
 
Tawnos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 11,234
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kovalev27 View Post
rest will all due respect is just inaccurate or silly. Half the players in the league are not 2nd or 1st rounders but the best are for the most part.

And many stsrting goalies weren't even drafted? Just completely not accurate. This is like Fox News reporting here. The Tim Thomas' of the world are rare as are the lundqvists and rinnes
We can debate ancient history forever, but I'd rather talk about drafting goalies since it's actually relevant. Reading comp must not be your strong suit, since I never said half the players. I said half the starting goalies weren't 1st or 2nd rounders.

Markstrom, Varlamov, Bernier*, Ward, Brodeur, Schneider*, Lehtonen, Pavelec, Luongo, Crawford, Dubnyk, Howard, Fleury, Rask. 14 goalies taken in the 1st or 2nd round. 2 of them might not even be starters. The rest were taken later, or undrafted, as in the case of Bobrovsky, Niemi, Hiller, and yes, Thomas if he manages to sign somewhere. You have to go back to 2011 to find a goalie drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who was a Vezina finalist.

The point is, you're as likely to find a goalie outside of the first two rounds are you are to find one inside. Personally, and this is just me, I consider that a waste of a pick.

Tawnos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-08-2013, 09:10 PM
  #753
RangerBlue62
Smoothies! Who's in?
 
RangerBlue62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 3,867
vCash: 500
Can't wait to see Lindberg/Kristo in training camp. I can't believe the first preseason game is a week from tomorrow. It's been a long summer.

RangerBlue62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-08-2013, 09:55 PM
  #754
McSauer
Defense Wins Games
 
McSauer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Providence, RI
Country: United States
Posts: 346
vCash: 500
On our backup: Biron's five-hole is the biggest joke in hockey, every other team knows it...

On Lindberg: cannot wait to see this kid in training camp/pre-season...we're stacked at center though; I could see Richards sucking right out of the gate, us sending him home and Lindberg coming up...

McSauer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-08-2013, 11:03 PM
  #755
haveandare
Registered User
 
haveandare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 5,727
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by McSauer View Post
On our backup: Biron's five-hole is the biggest joke in hockey, every other team knows it...

On Lindberg: cannot wait to see this kid in training camp/pre-season...we're stacked at center though; I could see Richards sucking right out of the gate, us sending him home and Lindberg coming up...
I could see someone being moved to the wing and Lindberg playing center if he shows he's well suited for that role.

haveandare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-08-2013, 11:34 PM
  #756
Barbara Underhill
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuke
 
Barbara Underhill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montana
Country: United States
Posts: 13,117
vCash: 373
Quote:
Originally Posted by haveandare View Post
I could see someone being moved to the wing and Lindberg playing center if he shows he's well suited for that role.
Sometimes it's easier to move the less experienced guy to the wing though, which I could see.

Barbara Underhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-08-2013, 11:50 PM
  #757
BBKers
Registered User
 
BBKers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Koster, Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 5,583
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to BBKers
Had this team won the tourney?

Forwards:
Chris Kreider - JT Miller - Danny Kristo
Pavel Buchnevich - Oscar Lindberg - Jesper Fast
Michael St. Croix - Bo Nieves - Anthony Duclair
Adam Tambellini - Andrew Yogan - Steve Fogarty
Josh Nicholls - Kyle Jean - Thomas Spelling

D-Men:
Brady Skjei - Dylan McIllraith
Calle Andersson - Conor Allen
Ryan Graves - Samuel Noreau
Charlie Dodero - Troy Donnay

Goaltenders:
Scott Stacjer
The Mission

And if so - how would this have remotely mattered in the long run?

BBKers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 12:24 AM
  #758
RangerBlue62
Smoothies! Who's in?
 
RangerBlue62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 3,867
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbara Underhill View Post
Sometimes it's easier to move the less experienced guy to the wing though, which I could see.
Lindberg is a smart two-way player who is great at faceoffs. His potential future in the NHL lies at center.

RangerBlue62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 06:02 AM
  #759
Punxrocknyc19*
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 10,233
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh Thats Nashty View Post
Lindberg is a smart two-way player who is great at faceoffs. His potential future in the NHL lies at center.
i bet Miller plays wing, Boyle gets traded since he is an UFA before season starts.. Lindberg the 3rd line center and 4th line goes to Moore...

Richards Stepan Nash
Kreider Brassard Zuccarello
Miller Lindberg Kristo (kid line)
Pouliot Moore Dorsett

(Hagelin Callahan out to start season) Boyle Powe traded, Asham and Haley 13th 14th forwards.

Punxrocknyc19* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 07:51 AM
  #760
Kovalev27
BEST IN THE WORLD
 
Kovalev27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 961
vCash: 500
Miller needs a year in the A at least

In fact ill venture to say all three of fast Lindberg and kristo are ahead of him in this camp

Boyle and Richards both will not be back next year neither will Pyatt or powe

Kovalev27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 08:44 AM
  #761
I Eat Crow
Fear The Mullet
 
I Eat Crow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 6,053
vCash: 500
Provided Stepan doesn't hold out, the Rangers have the luxury to be patient with Lindberg. If he comes in and wins the spot outright, well, then it gets interesting.

I Eat Crow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 08:48 AM
  #762
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,006
vCash: 500
It seems like Lindberg and Kristo are a bit more polished than Fast at this point. I really think Hrivik is a major darkhorse to grab a spot in camp. His size, strength and ability to make plays and slow the play down is going to add a nice dynamic to the roster.

NYR Viper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 08:55 AM
  #763
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,347
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbop View Post
You may want to remember games like this next year when we have our annual debate about using a high draft pick on a goaltender.
I don't think the organization is opposed to it, which is really all that matters. Clark said in an interview that they had Vasilevsky rated very high and would have taken him if they had the chance. I think they're hoping a blue-chip tender falls into their laps before Hank leaves, and if not, they'll try and trade for one.

Trxjw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 09:11 AM
  #764
Tawnos
Moderator
BoH Mod Only
 
Tawnos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 11,234
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
It seems like Lindberg and Kristo are a bit more polished than Fast at this point. I really think Hrivik is a major darkhorse to grab a spot in camp. His size, strength and ability to make plays and slow the play down is going to add a nice dynamic to the roster.
For some reason, I always think of Hrivik as small, but he really isn't, is he? 6'1"-6'2"?

Tawnos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 09:12 AM
  #765
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,347
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
It seems like Lindberg and Kristo are a bit more polished than Fast at this point. I really think Hrivik is a major darkhorse to grab a spot in camp. His size, strength and ability to make plays and slow the play down is going to add a nice dynamic to the roster.
I'd be really surprised to see Hrivik make the jump out of camp, but I'm excited to see what he can do this year. I think he'll see time in the NHL, I'm just not sure if it'll be right out of camp. He could be a real solid player for us down the line.

Trxjw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 09:13 AM
  #766
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,347
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
For some reason, I always think of Hrivik as small, but he really isn't, is he? 6'1"-6'2"?
6'1 and around 200lbs. Though I've seen reports of him being 6'2.

Trxjw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 09:20 AM
  #767
Tawnos
Moderator
BoH Mod Only
 
Tawnos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 11,234
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trxjw View Post
6'1 and around 200lbs. Though I've seen reports of him being 6'2.
Gotcha. You know, with the team's dropoff at LW, I wouldn't be shocked to see him make the team. It's a little crazy how many young forwards we have that could push for roster spots.

Tawnos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 09:21 AM
  #768
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,006
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trxjw View Post
6'1 and around 200lbs. Though I've seen reports of him being 6'2.
Jim Cerny compared his physique and size to Kreider. Kreider is 6'3 230lbs. My guess? 6'2 215lbs for Hrivik.

NYR Viper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 09:28 AM
  #769
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,347
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
Jim Cerny compared his physique and size to Kreider. Kreider is 6'3 230lbs. My guess? 6'2 215lbs for Hrivik.
It's possible, but I'm not sure I'd agree with him there.

Trxjw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 10:14 AM
  #770
Osminator
Registered User
 
Osminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Country: Austria
Posts: 4,473
vCash: 50
This is the TCT thread... Cheers

Osminator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 12:35 PM
  #771
Ola
Registered User
 
Ola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 17,268
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Viper View Post
It seems like Lindberg and Kristo are a bit more polished than Fast at this point. I really think Hrivik is a major darkhorse to grab a spot in camp. His size, strength and ability to make plays and slow the play down is going to add a nice dynamic to the roster.
You could be right on Hrivik, but re Fast I haven't seen any of the games and I haven't seen much of Kristo, but I doubt it.

To put it like this, when the pre-season games starts I think Fast, in the role he is put, will fit in much better while Kristo, in the role he is put in, natrually will get alot less space and I would be very suprised if his play isn't changed drastically.

Ola is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 12:41 PM
  #772
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,006
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ola View Post
You could be right on Hrivik, but re Fast I haven't seen any of the games and I haven't seen much of Kristo, but I doubt it.

To put it like this, when the pre-season games starts I think Fast, in the role he is put, will fit in much better while Kristo, in the role he is put in, natrually will get alot less space and I would be very suprised if his play isn't changed drastically.
So you think Kristo is thriving at the lower level because of the added space and the fact that he is able to control the puck more whereas Fast's game will transition better because he doesn't "need" the puck? That's a very distinct possibility and I hadn't though of that. Good point, Ola.

NYR Viper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 02:00 PM
  #773
Levitate
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 20,426
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ola View Post
You could be right on Hrivik, but re Fast I haven't seen any of the games and I haven't seen much of Kristo, but I doubt it.

To put it like this, when the pre-season games starts I think Fast, in the role he is put, will fit in much better while Kristo, in the role he is put in, natrually will get alot less space and I would be very suprised if his play isn't changed drastically.
Depends on how skilled Kristo really is. There are plenty of players in the NHL with very good puck skills/puck possession, despite the "limited" space available. Not all of them are superstars either. Kristo could be talented enough so that the limited space for him isn't a big issue, and I suspect the real coaching moment will be teaching him when to try to make a play and when to make the safe play.

Levitate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 02:39 PM
  #774
Cresto
Much Disappoint
 
Cresto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,449
vCash: 500
If everything goes our way, we will be able to say "We are number 7!" in 2 hours.

Cresto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-09-2013, 02:41 PM
  #775
cwede
Registered User
 
cwede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 209
vCash: 500
interesting lineup if the box score is correct
http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/...gameid=2271055
- 8 D dressed,
- 4 forwards scratched - Jean, Kantor, Spelling and Leroux

cwede is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:19 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.