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10-07-2013, 12:02 PM
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On Hockey Central @ Noon, Nick Kypreos said that James Reimer might traded by the Toronto Maple Leafs by the NHL trade deadline because in his opinion, Jonathan Bernier will eventually take over the starting goaltender position from Reimer. Acording to Kypreos, if the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to trade both James Reimer and Jake Gardiner in a packaged deal, the club would definitely be able to acquire a legitimate #1 NHL centre in return.
Funny, someone posted that exact same scenario yesterday or the day before. Wonder if Kypreos has been spending some time on the Boards

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On Hockey Central @ Noon, Nick Kypreos said that James Reimer might traded by the Toronto Maple Leafs by the NHL trade deadline because in his opinion, Jonathan Bernier will eventually take over the starting goaltender position from Reimer. Acording to Kypreos, if the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to trade both James Reimer and Jake Gardiner in a packaged deal, the club would definitely be able to acquire a legitimate #1 NHL centre in return.
Yes, but really what team needs a starter and a bff defender for their team?

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And who has a surplus of legitimate #1 centres that needs a goaltender and defensive prospect that badly?

Well damn.

It all makes sense now.

Crosby to Toronto, E5.

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On Hockey Central @ Noon, Nick Kypreos said that James Reimer might traded by the Toronto Maple Leafs by the NHL trade deadline because in his opinion, Jonathan Bernier will eventually take over the starting goaltender position from Reimer. Acording to Kypreos, if the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to trade both James Reimer and Jake Gardiner in a packaged deal, the club would definitely be able to acquire a legitimate #1 NHL centre in return.
LOL. He's obviously not paying attention to what's going on on the Trade boards here. A couple leaf fans are trying to offer them up right now and are taking some kind of beating for it. It's as though their entire career is based on the 3 games this season only.

I think Reimer gets moved at the draft, and Gardiner gets moved in 9 more games.

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man if we had sundin in his prime, that would be great.

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Team would be better off moving Reimer for an upgrade on d. Leafs still give up way too many chances, that'll hurt them in the playoffs.

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On Hockey Central @ Noon, Nick Kypreos said that James Reimer might traded by the Toronto Maple Leafs by the NHL trade deadline because in his opinion, Jonathan Bernier will eventually take over the starting goaltender position from Reimer. Acording to Kypreos, if the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to trade both James Reimer and Jake Gardiner in a packaged deal, the club would definitely be able to acquire a legitimate #1 NHL centre in return.
Nice job stating the obvious there Kipper

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I think Reimer gets moved at the draft, and Gardiner gets moved in 9 more games.
Get a first round pick for Reimer, use that and ours in a trade to move up in the draft then BAM! Welcome to Toronto Sam Reinhart.


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And who has a surplus of legitimate #1 centres that needs a goaltender and defensive prospect that badly?
That actually describes the Avs to a tee. Just saying.

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And who has a surplus of legitimate #1 centres that needs a goaltender and defensive prospect that badly?

Well damn.

It all makes sense now.

Crosby to Toronto, E5.
only teams i can think of are Sharks and Avs. Neither of them need a goalie however. Both could use Gardiner though

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Any trade that involves Phaneuf without a superior D coming our way is horrible. Period.

This team is slowly trending towards a win now mode, and you don't trade your 27/28 year old #1 D in these kinds of situations.

And let me this bit - how many players in the league are as well rounded as Phaneuf?

This guy is one of the biggest hitters (when he hits), plays great D, has the offensive skills to put up 40+ pts a year while being a leader (maybe not the best leader, but a leader nonetheless.

He is basically a poor man's Chara/Weber.
Yes, Phaneuf is 28, and is a superior defender.

He's a top 15 defender today. My question is whether he'll be top 15 in 4-5-6 years?

Leafs have been in a win now mode since the day Burke was hired.

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only teams i can think of are Sharks and Avs. Neither of them need a goalie however. Both could use Gardiner though
If only Eberle could play center!

How about the Kings? Do they need a good back-up?

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Yes, Phaneuf is 28, and is a superior defender.

He's a top 15 defender today. My question is whether he'll be top 15 in 4-5-6 years?

Leafs have been in a win now mode since the day Burke was hired.
Lets see here - in today's NHL, the average conditioned player maintains a high level of play around the age of 35. The really well conditioned players can maintain their performance into the late 30's.

Phaneuf is one of the better conditioned players in the league, and has toned down a lot of the hard physical play that might wear him down. From the data we have at hand, it is a very safe bet to think he will be a top pair dman for another 5+ years.

We most definitely should NOT deal him. If we can sign him to a 5x6.5 deal, it will be a steal once the cap goes way yup.

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10-07-2013, 12:12 PM
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Lets see here - in today's NHL, the average conditioned player maintains a high level of play around the age of 35. The really well conditioned players can maintain their performance into the late 30's.

Phaneuf is one of the better conditioned players in the league, and has toned down a lot of the hard physical play that might wear him down. From the data we have at hand, it is a very safe bet to think he will be a top pair dman for another 5+ years.

We most definitely should NOT deal him. If we can sign him to a 5x6.5 deal, it will be a steal once the cap goes way yup.
Completely agree, 5 years.

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10-07-2013, 12:13 PM
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If only Eberle could play center!

How about the Kings? Do they need a good back-up?

Kadri, Gardiner, Reimer
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Kopitar and Scrivens

Kopitar would be awesome. They could then move Carter in the middle. Highly unlikely the Kings move him though.

What makes the most sense is something around Gardiner for O'Reilly at the trade DL

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10-07-2013, 12:16 PM
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Hey guys,

On Hockey Central @ Noon, Nick Kypreos said that James Reimer might traded by the Toronto Maple Leafs by the NHL trade deadline because in his opinion, Jonathan Bernier will eventually take over the starting goaltender position from Reimer. Acording to Kypreos, if the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to trade both James Reimer and Jake Gardiner in a packaged deal, the club would definitely be able to acquire a legitimate #1 NHL centre in return.
It was said as pure speculation. Nothing was behind his comments.

No need to overreact.

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Kopitar would be awesome. They could then move Carter in the middle. Highly unlikely the Kings move him though.

What makes the most sense is something around Gardiner for O'Reilly at the trade DL
Not a #1C but ROR is better than Bozak.

ROR/Kadri/Bozak down the middle would be pretty good.

Avs are going to have a problem to get him signed IMO. His qualifying offer is 6.5M and he won't take anything less than 5M...they're pretty cheap. ROR is most likely gone unless Roy and Sakic somehow convince him.

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only teams i can think of are Sharks and Avs. Neither of them need a goalie however. Both could use Gardiner though
Philly may be another. The need D, and have had goalie issues for years.

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10-07-2013, 12:18 PM
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Get a first round pick for Reimer, use that and ours in a trade to move up in the draft then BAM! Welcome to Toronto Sam Reinhart.




That actually describes the Avs to a tee. Just saying.
Do you think Colorado believes Reimer is better than Varlomov?

I'm not sure they do.

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Philly may be another. The need D, and have had goalie issues for years.
Doubt we trade Gardiner within conference..

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I'd rather the Leafs trade for a #1 - 2 defenseman. That is the true need for this team.

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Philly may be another. The need D, and have had goalie issues for years.
damn forgot about Philly. Actually we make extremely good trading partners with them.... but who would we want? Is Couturier really a top 6 centre? I don't think so

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I'd rather the Leafs trade for a #1 - 2 defenseman. That is the true need for this team.
Might happen.

The issues are our salary cap situation and what minute munching dmen are out there with a reasonable cap hit?

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I'd rather the Leafs trade for a #1 - 2 defenseman. That is the true need for this team.
i've had my eye on Girardi. I think he could compliment Phaneuf pretty well

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Might happen.

The issues are our salary cap situation and what minute munching dmen are out there with a reasonable cap hit?
Not very many..

Is it possible to trade a buy out salary? Ala Tucker or Armstrong to a team to pay their salary? No eh.. That'd be sweet

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Completely agree, 5 years.
That would be the best term. I'm not sure how likely he will be to sign that though.

Although, if I were Phaneuf, I would take that deal. 5 years from now, he can get more for 2 years than he can now on a 7 year deal.

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