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08-25-2013, 05:33 PM
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My post from the last thread about who the TSN panel was talking about for the team:

TSN panel just talked about their opinion on locks/favourites for the team

Goal
Lock - None
Favourite - Luongo (they also mentioned Price as the backup and I didn't hear who the #3 is)

Defense
Lock - Doughty, Weber, Keith
Favourite - Letang, Pietrangelo, Bouwemeester, Subban
They also mentioned Hamhuis

Forwards
Lock - Staal, Nash, Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf, Giroux, Tavares, Stamkos, Bergeron
Favourite - Perry, St. Louis
They also mentioned Carter and Richards
Dreger mentioned Lucic

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Bob McKenzie said that the Hockey Canada officials and coaches are "very disappointed" that Giroux wasn't there but that the Flyers were "emphatic" that he not come.

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Hitchcock: Well, the biggest mistake you can make on big ice is to think you have more time.

Crosby: Well, on big ice the main difference is that you have a bit more time.

Time to start those discussions...

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Bob McKenzie said that the Hockey Canada officials and coaches are "very disappointed" that Giroux wasn't there but that the Flyers were "emphatic" that he not come.
The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.

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The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.
to be fair to giroux tsn made it sound like it was more about the flyers than him

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The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.
You obviously haven't endured the horrid pain of flying with a broken finger.


In all seriousness, I hope him and Crosby set apart their differences and play some good ol' hockey at the tournament.

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I found it interesting that Babcock told Duthie that there are five defencemen that he considers almost locks at this point. This was also just after emphasizing how much he cares about pairing a LH and RH together, and also how he does not care for players who take lots of risks. Keith, Weber and Doughty are a given. Pietrangelo seems the next most likely to me, and maybe Bouwmester as well.

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You obviously haven't endured the horrid pain of flying with a broken finger.


In all seriousness, I hope him and Crosby set apart their differences and play some good ol' hockey at the tournament.
I would love to see that.

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to be fair to giroux tsn made it sound like it was more about the flyers than him
I hope so.

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Holtby is such an idiot, because as far as I can see he is the only one who didn't dodge the Russian law question and he answered it in the stupidest way possible in regards to getting a spot on the roster.

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Holtby is such an idiot, because as far as I can see he is the only one who didn't dodge the Russian law question and he answered it in the stupidest way possible in regards to getting a spot on the roster.
What did he say?

All the video clips from the press conference are up on the tsn website.

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What did he say?
He said it was tough to go to a country with those laws.

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He said it was tough to go to a country with those laws.
In his defence, of all the players they have a clip of answering this question I think he has the least amount of media training on this topic. The other players were Crosby, Stamkos, and Weber (both Stamkos and Weber were part of the You Can Play campaign and Crosby is Crosby).

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The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.
I don't understand this at all. It's not like they were going to go on the ice or anything. I'm sure HC didn't expect him or any other players to do anything physical and it's his first time as an Olympic invitee. Something's up.

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My guess

Nash - Crosby - Giroux
Hall - Toews - Stamkos
Marchand - Tavares - Bergeron
E.Staal - Getzlaf - Perry

Keith - Weber
Bouwmeester - Doughty
Pietrangelo - Subban

Luongo
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It's quite possible the Flyers just wanted to lock Giroux in his house before training camp/start of the season so he didn't injure anything else.

The one interesting tidbit i got from the footage today was Babcock worked with the Lions and Michigan university team and consulted them about "walkthroughs".

Babcock and the staff plan on getting the players on olympic sized ice(in their shoes of course) and going through systems etc. Babcock said it can be a more useful tool then just watching video or a drawing board.

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too many oilers involved in all this

i have a bad feeling hall and eberle are gonna make the team.
They both should. Where I disagree with Oilers fans is that RNH has any chance of making this team.


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Babcock said they'll be a younger group. Not entirely sure what to make of that, but perhaps we will see a decent amount of Hall/Duchene/Couture/Eberle's
I hope so; no 2006 repeat, please.

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Maybe that gets rid of Sharp but St. Louis still has a good chance IMO
Agreed; the only things (potentially) against St. Louis are the facts that he didn't make the 2010 team and his age.

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More likely, it means that the likes of Stamkos, Tavares, Giroux are locks to make the team this time around. The players you mentioned are on the bubble IMO.
Agreed and I really hope the players duul listed get a good look taken at them.


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TSN panel just talked about their opinion on locks/favourites for the team

Goal
Lock - None
Favourite - Luongo (they also mentioned Price as the backup and I didn't hear who the #3 is)

Defense
Lock - Doughty, Weber, Keith
Favourite - Letang, Pietrangelo, Bouwemeester, Subban
They also mentioned Hamhuis

Forwards
Lock - Staal, Nash, Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf, Giroux, Tavares, Stamkos, Bergeron
Favourite - Perry, St. Louis
They also mentioned Carter and Richards
Dreger mentioned Lucic
Smith was their #3 guy, iirc.

I don't like the addition of Bouwmeester; I'd rather Marc Staal be there instead.

I really don't think Lucic should be on this team.

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Stamkos - Crosby - St. Louis
Tavares - Toews - Giroux
Nash - Bergeron - Richards
Hall - Getzlaf - E. Staal
Perry, Couture

Subban - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
Pietrangelo - Doughty
Letang

Price/Luongo
Crawford

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My guess

Nash - Crosby - Giroux
Hall - Toews - Stamkos
Marchand - Tavares - Bergeron
E.Staal - Getzlaf - Perry

Keith - Weber
Bouwmeester - Doughty
Pietrangelo - Subban

Luongo
Price
Crawford
Not so sure about Luongo starting but everything else looks good. Maybe replace Bouwmeester with Letang and Pietrangelo with Seabrook and we're set.

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Not so sure about Luongo starting but everything else looks good. Maybe replace Bouwmeester with Letang and Pietrangelo with Seabrook and we're set.
Bouwmeester is a left shot, he plays well on international size ice, and Babcock likes defenders to play their natural side. You'd also have a tough time arguing for Seabrook over Pietrangelo, Pietrangelo is a much better player.

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Not so sure about Luongo starting but everything else looks good. Maybe replace Bouwmeester with Letang and Pietrangelo with Seabrook and we're set.
They're not going to be taking 1 LHS. There will be at least 2, probably 3 LHS defensemen on the roster.

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Assemble the worst team you can think of that would still take a bronze medal!

Marleau - Thornton - St. Louis
Lucic - Richards B - Seguin
Benn - Duchene - Lecavalier
Marchand - Richards M - Bergeron

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Hitchcock: Well, the biggest mistake you can make on big ice is to think you have more time.

Crosby: Well, on big ice the main difference is that you have a bit more time.

Time to start those discussions...
I noticed that too, interresting to compare the quotes

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I noticed that too, interresting to compare the quotes
Both statements are accurate, you do have a second or two longer to make a play, but from a tactical point of view, it is a mistake to take that second or two... is what I thought he meant by it, the pace of the game we want to play shouldn't change just because there is that added second to make a decision...

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