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07-03-2005, 05:24 AM
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Rachunek

Looks like we need another dman, Karl Rachunek has signed a 1.3 million binding deal with a russian team. as per today's brooks article.

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The deal may be binding but does it have any buyout or escape clause?

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The deal may be binding but does it have any buyout or escape clause?
Well if it does, I would assume Big Glen wouldn't give a rats ass. More like Thanks alot Karel, you just made us spend more money? Nah.

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Well if it does, I would assume Big Glen wouldn't give a rats ass. More like Thanks alot Karel, you just made us spend more money? Nah.
I'd agree.

It seems like very good money for Rachunek. If he changes his mind and there's a buyout clause, let him pay for it.

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I'm shocked Rachunek got 1.3 mil in Russia. I would have thought only guys like Ovechkin or an established NHL star would be able to bring down a 7 figure salary in Russia. But Rachunek!?

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I'm shocked Rachunek got 1.3 mil in Russia. I would have thought only guys like Ovechkin or an established NHL star would be able to bring down a 7 figure salary in Russia. But Rachunek!?
Well, some RSL clubs like Ak-Bars Kazan had a payroll of approximately $55 mil with stars like Brad Richards, Vincent Lecavalier, Kovalchuk, Kasparaitis, Khabibulin and Braithwaite as a backup. And these names are just few from that star-laden roster that popped into my head. Ironically, they lost in the 2nd round of playoffs.

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07-03-2005, 11:06 AM
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Well, some RSL clubs like Ak-Bars Kazan had a payroll of approximately $55 mil with stars like Brad Richards, Vincent Lecavalier, Kovalchuk, Kasparaitis, Khabibulin and Braithwaite as a backup. And these names are just few from that star-laden roster that popped into my head. Ironically, they lost in the 2nd round of playoffs.
Their payroll was a one time thing. They are going way down this upcoming season.

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07-03-2005, 11:09 AM
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Karel Rachunek was supposed to make $1.5 million in 04-05.With the 24% rollback,Rachunek's QO is $1.14 million.If he wanted $1.5 million for 05-06,the Rangers will/would probably give it to him

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If they offer the same amount why would he leave home?

Rodent is probably right, Sather is glad.

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Well this sucks. our future top 4 dman doesnt want to play with us next season. Guess this means Poti is more likely to be resigned.

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If they offer the same amount why would he leave home?

Rodent is probably right, Sather is glad.
Rachunek isn't Russian, so he's not exactly "leaving home" if he comes back to the NHL.

and I don't see why sather would be glad unless he just really didn't want to pay Rachunek a lot. he did trade for the guy and I don't see why he would be happy to dump him now

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our future top 4 dman doesnt want to play with us next season.
You give him WAY too much credit.

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You give him WAY too much credit.

No you give him nowhere NEAR enough credit after watching him in a handful of games you seemed to predict his future.

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I don't see why he would be happy to dump him now
Open a spot for a FA. Leaves a lot more options open. Rachuneck was not very good in his stint here. Over a full year, he'd be the next Tom Poti. Supposed to be an offensive/two way defensemen that can't do either right.

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No you give him nowhere NEAR enough credit after watching him in a handful of games you seemed to predict his future.
What makes you think I haven't seen him before then?

If he is so good why was Ottawa so quick to give him up plus a prospect for Greg Devries?

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07-03-2005, 11:58 AM
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What makes you think I haven't seen him before then?

If he is so good why was Ottawa so quick to give him up plus a prospect for Greg Devries?
Read other in thread....can a mod combine these 2 threads?

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What makes you think I haven't seen him before then?

If he is so good why was Ottawa so quick to give him up plus a prospect for Greg Devries?
maybe also because the sens and their fans blamed him for the game 7 vs. nj in 2003 and have held that against his play.

in other words, the "change of scenery" line.

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Open a spot for a FA. Leaves a lot more options open. Rachuneck was not very good in his stint here. Over a full year, he'd be the next Tom Poti. Supposed to be an offensive/two way defensemen that can't do either right.
Who's to say you will like the FA Sather signs to replace him? I agree that the 12 games he played here is not fair to judge him by. Going to a new team with a new system from a team that was contending to a team rebuilding and couldn't play any D. To say he is the next Poti is silly, I watched those 12 games and Rachunek hit more in those 12 than Poti did all season...............I also don't think this means that if we offer him the same money he can't/won't come back to the NHL.

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The Sens gave him up because he had problems with Jacques Martin in Ottawa. I would give anything to take the trade back. Rachunek is a solid top 4 defenseman in the NHL and is still very young. Comparing him to Poti is rediculous.

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The Sens gave him up because he had problems with Jacques Martin in Ottawa. I would give anything to take the trade back. Rachunek is a solid top 4 defenseman in the NHL and is still very young. Comparing him to Poti is rediculous.

Well now I can see Sather signing Dan McGillis for sure. At least he uses his hard shot and hits as well.

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I don't think...

people are solely evaluating Rachunek on his short stint here. He's been a NHLer for some time. He hasn't realized his potential (whatever that is). I doubt Sather's going to pay $1.5 million in the new world for Rachunek - it kind of puts things out of whack a bit. If he is gone, he'l likely be Rangers property in a year. It gives a chance for someone else to step in, and maybe we see Rachunek in a year - at least he's playing and at least he's playing in a competitive league. Of course then again, he's a lot closer to home and with the cost of living, I think he's better off there than here.

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The Sens gave him up because he had problems with Jacques Martin in Ottawa. I would give anything to take the trade back. Rachunek is a solid top 4 defenseman in the NHL and is still very young. Comparing him to Poti is rediculous.

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The Sens gave him up because he had problems with Jacques Martin in Ottawa. I would give anything to take the trade back. Rachunek is a solid top 4 defenseman in the NHL and is still very young. Comparing him to Poti is rediculous.
I always liked him in Ottawa. Still think the jury is out on him. There are still questions when it comes to his defensive game.

On another issue I don't think its fair to judge players who played for NYR the last 15 games in 04'. 65 games into the season and we had like 7-8 rookies on the team and 4-5 players who had played with each other before. Karel might be a player who works really well in a system and never got to show that.

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IMO any way you look at this, it's not a good thing. Rachunek is a potential top 4 D-man...his main problem is some consistancy issues but that's nothing that can't be worked on...in any case he's an asset and whenever you lose an asset like this it's not a good thing. and yes it's not really "losing" him, but ultimately i don't think it's good for the rangers if he stays in russia to collect a bigger paycheck. i'd much much rather have him in NY

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Watching him against the Canadiens, he always played a very strong game against us. But Ottawa fans measure their players by how they compete against the Leafs. I know Montreal would drool to have a player like him on defense.

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