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Steve Yzerman and consecutive + (+/-) seasons

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08-25-2013, 12:29 AM
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Steve Yzerman and consecutive + (+/-) seasons

Was just looking over Steve Yzerman's stats and noticed he went 14 consecutive seasons being a plus player. Has anyone had a longer streak without being a minus player?

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08-25-2013, 12:35 AM
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Larry Robinson = 20 year career, always a plus player (though just barely his final season)

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...robinla01.html

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Scott Stevens = 22 year career, never a minus player. But he had an even 0 his 4th season, so his steak as a plus player is 18 years

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...stevesc01.html

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Wow, shoulda known. Robinson completely slipped my mind... he does afterall have the highest career +/-, but still, I figured he would have had atleast a few minus seasons near the end of his career after he had declined considerably, and wasn't exactly playing for a defensive powerhouse in LA.

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Nick Lidstrom had an 18 year streak as well before that -2 year.

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So there's two defenseman, does any forward have a longer streak than Yzerman?

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So there's two defenseman, does any forward have a longer streak than Yzerman?
Forward is going to be tougher, since I think elite defensemen have more control over their own plus/minus than forwards do.

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So there's two defenseman, does any forward have a longer streak than Yzerman?
Bobby Clarke, 15

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08-25-2013, 01:17 AM
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Usual suspects so far.

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Usual suspects so far.
If you'd like some unusual suspects who came in close at 13, look no further than Shawn Burr and Daniel Alfredsson. It's probably safe to say that the 2005 lockout cost Alfredsson a 14th consecutive plus season, given that the Senators were loaded for bear at the time.

Jean Ratelle also had 14, and possibly more, as part of his career predated official plus-minus. Craig Ramsay went 14 for 14 in his career.

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Here's some other good ones:

Al MacInnis - 19
Mike Ramsey - 16
Brendan Shanahan - 14

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Mike Ramsey - 16
Brendan Shanahan - 14
Ramsey had 14 (1980-1993)
Shanahan had 12 (1995-2007).

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Ramsey had 14 (1980-1993)
Shanahan had 12 (1995-2007).
You're right, I looked too quickly.

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Fedorov and Forsberg both had 13 consecutive.

Chelios had two separate streaks of 10.

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i have a feeling mr. howe would be looking good here if they kept +/- his entire career.

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Ray Bourque was a plus player in each of his first 17 seasons.

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Jere Lehtinen went his first eight seasons as a + player, went even in his 9th, four more + seasons then a -8 in his last.

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John LeClair - 14
Andre Dupont - 13

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I think Joey Kocur has the opposite record for minus seasons, with 13 in a row. Which is funny because he and Yzerman were on the same team for much of that stretch.

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Bill Barber was a plus player his whole career (12 seasons). Probably longer if not for the premature knee problems

Jacques Lemaire was never a minus player in 12 seasons

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Eric Lindros was a + player in his 11 seasons up until his last two with NYR and Dallas.

Peter Forsberg was a + player in every one of his 12 seasons/partial seasons until his return in '11 when he was a -4 in 2 games.

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dave babych...16 of 18 seasons 0 or worse....ouch.

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cournoyer's career began four years before the +/- stat. but he has 12 straight plus seasons (his entire career post-+/- stat). given that the habs were strong those years, never finishing below second overall and winning two cups, he probably really had 16 straight.

beliveau, henri richard, and some of the other longtime habs of that generation probably also beat yzerman (and clarke).

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i have a feeling mr. howe would be looking good here if they kept +/- his entire career.
Agreed, it would be interesting to find out how he faired his whole career.

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Eric Lindros was a + player in his 11 seasons up until his last two with NYR and Dallas.

Peter Forsberg was a + player in every one of his 12 seasons/partial seasons until his return in '11 when he was a -4 in 2 games.
Forsberg was also a plus player 12 out of 13 playoff seasons.

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Its funny how Yzerman is the guy on this list that we talk about despite many a debate over how defensively irresponsible he may or may not have been prior to his transformation.

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