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12-08-2013, 12:20 AM
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Fraser and Spooner recalled (who is next? Hamilton/ Miller out now too)

to replace Loui, Kelly and Thornton.


Sadly, this means ultra-useless Caron draws in.

Shame to leave Robins down ---game with the Canucks (Sestito) could be a ****show. Could be some very physical games coming up and Robins has at least 2 dimensions (hitting and fighting) to Caron's impressive 0 dimensions.

Anyway, what are the lines looking like?

L-K-H
Marchand--Bergeron--Soderberg
Fraser--Spooner--Smith (speed!)
Paille--Campbell--Caron (<--gross)

buuuut, knowing Julien we are looking at Caron getting 2/3 line mins and the kids will get limited mins.

Maybe not... what are the lines possibilities?


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Toronto --> Orr, McLaren, Fraser
Edmonton --> Gazdic
Calgary -->McGrattan
Vancouver --> Sestito and a collection of idiots

Don't want to see Chara or Lucic risking a broken hand on any of these guys --where is the replacement for Thornton? Caron? Seriously??

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Orr's hurt, as is McGrattan. MacDermid is with Calgary though, and I'd think he has something to prove.

I agree though, Robins should be recalled tout suite.

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Fraser--Spooner--Smith (speed!)
Fraser has 16-6 totals in 23 games. Who is feeding him the puck in Providence?

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Atleast Orr is out tommorow.

Maybe we'll find out what Fraser can do chucking the knuckles?

Agree with OP, not excited about seeing Caron again either. Maybe he'll have his a good game or 2 before becoming completely useless, that has been his pattern.

Have Spooner and Fraser played together in Providence?

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Fraser has 16-6 totals in 23 games. Who is feeding him the puck in Providence?
My guess is Spooner (5-19).

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At first I was thinking that Julien would put Caron in the third line with Soderberg and Spooner and Fraser on the fourth line with sheltered minutes, but now that I think about it, I think Fraser might get the nod on Caron for the 3rd line because it doesn't seem to make sense to call up Fraser if you are just asking him to skate his lane, dump and chase and get off the ice. They know what Caron is for the most part, and he could fill in on the third line since he's been up all year and played games for the big club, but I think they would have brought up Robins if they were thinking of putting Caron on the third line.

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Isn't it a bad idea to put Soderberg on the RW because he is blind in one eye?

Lucic - Krejci - Iginla
Marchand - Bergeron - Smith
Soderberg - Spooner - Frasier
Paille - Campbell - Caron

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Soderberg - Bergeron - Smith

This is a killer line, IMHO.

Clode is a dance with who you brung kinda guy I know, I think this will open his eyes if he puts them together.

Take your time Loui.

No hurry.

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Toronto --> Orr, McLaren, Fraser
Edmonton --> Gazdic
Calgary -->McGrattan
Vancouver --> Sestito and a collection of idiots

Don't want to see Chara or Lucic risking a broken hand on any of these guys --where is the replacement for Thornton? Caron? Seriously??
Guys, Robins is NOT a heavyweight. He couldn't fight any of the above mentioned guys. Infact Thornton really couldn't either. Lucic and Chara are about the only two guys that could hold their own against Orr, McGrattan and Gazdic.

Anyone can beat up Sestito and McLaren.

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Bobby may not be a heavyweight, but he wouldn't back down physically to them and if challenged he'd fight. Wish he was being called up but alas...

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I am happy with the callups. Silver lining in all the shenanigans tonight.

Hoping to see a Soderberg - Spooner - Fraser third line

Really excited to see what Fraser looks like with the big boys.

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I actually like Colt's lineup, but would maybe make one minor tweak...

Lucic-Krejci-Iginla
Soder-BergTM-Marsh
Fraser-Spooner-Smith
Paille-Campbell-Caron

I'm not crazy about Marchand on the right but he and Smith are the only guys in this current mix of middle6 wingers with time on the right side this season.

Fraser and Spooner have shown tremendous chemistry in Provideence, and Fraser-Smith are familiar with each other from Dallas.

I agree with folks who think 34-37-18 could be a strong line but I think subbing Marchand for Smith could be just as effective and still have a similar composition/style.

And given the options, I would actually play Caron. If nothing else, he's big, he's strong, he can play either wing, and he's usually very responsible defensiely. This team just lost two key PK'ers and that's a role he's been trusted with in the past.

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Toronto --> Orr, McLaren, Fraser
Edmonton --> Gazdic
Calgary -->McGrattan
Vancouver --> Sestito and a collection of idiots

Don't want to see Chara or Lucic risking a broken hand on any of these guys --where is the replacement for Thornton? Caron? Seriously??
And why would we exchange a #1 defenseman or a 1st line forward for any of these forth line plugs? Chara and Lucic have no business fighting anyone in a staged fight, unless it's taking a player of equal value off the ice for 5 minutes. None of which any of these teams have that would actually be willing to fight. Only team might be Toronto with Phaneuf at least being willing to drop the gloves, but wouldn't fair well for him with either player.

Lucic and Chara being angered to be engaged in a fight? The B's have shown they are much more dangerous as a team when being provoked, you know the whole marketing angle "Don't Poke the Bear" is aptly titled, as an angry Chara or Lucic is something the other teams don't want to face.

None of those line ups worry me in terms of toughness.

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I actually like Colt's lineup, but would maybe make one minor tweak...

Lucic-Krejci-Iginla
Soder-BergTM-Marsh
Fraser-Spooner-Smith
Paille-Campbell-Caron

I'm not crazy about Marchand on the right but he and Smith are the only guys in this current mix of middle6 wingers with time on the right side this season.

Fraser and Spooner have shown tremendous chemistry in Provideence, and Fraser-Smith are familiar with each other from Dallas.

I agree with folks who think 34-37-18 could be a strong line but I think subbing Marchand for Smith could be just as effective and still have a similar composition/style.

And given the options, I would actually play Caron. If nothing else, he's big, he's strong, he can play either wing, and he's usually very responsible defensiely. This team just lost two key PK'ers and that's a role he's been trusted with in the past.
Only problem with that 3rd line is you have three young guys on one line. Claude would sooner dine on some rat poison than do that...

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I'd like to see Fraser alongside Bergeron. Fraser is a natural goalscorer and he might get Bergy and Marchand going. Also, that way he won't be a defensive liability when Bergeron is looking out for him. SSS line seemed to work pretty well last time Spooner was on.

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Toronto --> Orr, McLaren, Fraser
Edmonton --> Gazdic
Calgary -->McGrattan
Vancouver --> Sestito and a collection of idiots

Don't want to see Chara or Lucic risking a broken hand on any of these guys --where is the replacement for Thornton? Caron? Seriously??
There's no reason anyone has to fight those guys. Let's just try to win the games.

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There's no reason anyone has to fight those guys. Let's just try to win the games.
You make me sick, they must not have won any games the past few years with Thornton, Campbell, Lucic, McQuiad et al. You're right, let's play like team Sweden.

Seeing some of the responses on the Bruins forum and the ones on the main board regarding Thornton knocking out Orpik, I really fear for the future of this game.

When Gary Bettman looks like Conn Smyth compared to some of these people I really worry

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You make me sick, they must not have won any games the past few years with Thornton, Campbell, Lucic, McQuiad et al. You're right, let's play like team Sweden.

Seeing some of the responses on the Bruins forum and the ones on the main board regarding Thornton knocking out Orpik, I really fear for the future of this game.

When Gary Bettman looks like Conn Smyth compared to some of these people I really worry
We can survive 5 games (or however long Thornton gets suspended) without a staged, heavyweight fight.

How would Brian Robbins fighting McLaren help us win the game?

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to replace Loui, Kelly and Thornton.


Sadly, this means ultra-useless Caron draws in.

Shame to leave Robins down ---game with the Canucks (Sestito) could be a ****show. Could be some very physical games coming up and Robins has at least 2 dimensions (hitting and fighting) to Caron's impressive 0 dimensions.

Anyway, what are the lines looking like?

L-K-H
Marchand--Bergeron--Soderberg
Fraser--Spooner--Smith (speed!)
Paille--Campbell--Caron (<--gross)

buuuut, knowing Julien we are looking at Caron getting 2/3 line mins and the kids will get limited mins.

Maybe not... what are the lines possibilities?
Colt they had to leave him down to have bodies but the guy can fill a specific roll and with Thornton out I bring him in for Vancouver. The best game I have ever seen him skate was the Mabchester game and although he isn't IMO as good a fighter he is a very good body checker. We ran into him once and started talking about Tsongis Arena and U Lowell and although I find it madenning he dressed over Koko and Knight I would love love love to see him both live the dream but help the Bruins. Other than the injured guys getting healthy this would be my Bruins wish to come to reality

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I loved Fraser in Dallas, Reilly Smith too. I was following them close and looking forward to them hitting the NHL.

I felt Fraser's game was one of the things that made them feel comfortable moving Neal. That was pure speculation on my part.

When they moved both of them in one trade I was shocked. I am not trying to argue who won the trade or got better value blah blah, I am just saying I was shocked they would move them both.

In terms of them knowing each other from Dallas and playing on the same line, not sure how well that works. They used to compete for the same roster spot in Dallas and it pretty much has been the same in Boston from what I can tell. But yes, their time in the minors together should have allowed some familiarity.

Fraser is one of those guys that needs a long look in the NHL because his game takes longer to figure out at the NHL level, imo. I think that Fraser will be a slow learner to the NHL but once he does, he will be a Glen Murray type.

I am very excited to see the kids play, never want to see it be due to injuries, but it's usually how it works out.

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to replace Loui, Kelly and Thornton.


Sadly, this means ultra-useless Caron draws in.

Shame to leave Robins down ---game with the Canucks (Sestito) could be a ****show. Could be some very physical games coming up and Robins has at least 2 dimensions (hitting and fighting) to Caron's impressive 0 dimensions.

Anyway, what are the lines looking like?

L-K-H
Marchand--Bergeron--Soderberg
Fraser--Spooner--Smith (speed!)
Paille--Campbell--Caron (<--gross)

buuuut, knowing Julien we are looking at Caron getting 2/3 line mins and the kids will get limited mins.

Maybe not... what are the lines possibilities?
This one will be like the Providence Bruins vs Toronto Marlies tonight.

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I loved Fraser in Dallas, Reilly Smith too. I was following them close and looking forward to them hitting the NHL.

I felt Fraser's game was one of the things that made them feel comfortable moving Neal. That was pure speculation on my part.

When they moved both of them in one trade I was shocked. I am not trying to argue who won the trade or got better value blah blah, I am just saying I was shocked they would move them both.

In terms of them knowing each other from Dallas and playing on the same line, not sure how well that works. They used to compete for the same roster spot in Dallas and it pretty much has been the same in Boston from what I can tell. But yes, their time in the minors together should have allowed some familiarity.

Fraser is one of those guys that needs a long look in the NHL because his game takes longer to figure out at the NHL level, imo. I think that Fraser will be a slow learner to the NHL but once he does, he will be a Glen Murray type.

I am very excited to see the kids play, never want to see it be due to injuries, but it's usually how it works out.
I seem to recall our friend Kirk mentioning that his skating is essentially the thing holding him back?

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I seem to recall our friend Kirk mentioning that his skating is essentially the thing holding him back?
yea, and it also causes him to get in the dog house early in games with his NHL shots and have him not be trusted on the ice.

there is no question that his skating is the weakest part of his game. he has worked hard on his defensive game and skating, and the skating can sometimes hurt him on the defensive side as he can't recover in time to the slow thought process.

that said, i think he can get there. he seems like a very hard working kid and he knows he has an NHL release on his shot.

and as always, if he finds the right line mates to help shield him and feed him the puck, it'll help his confidence and help keep him on the ice longer.

edit: at worse i could see this kid being a guy that skates the 4th line and is a PP specialist that just uses his big body to get to the net and snipe goals from all over.

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yea, and it also causes him to get in the dog house early in games with his NHL shots and have him not be trusted on the ice.

there is no question that his skating is the weakest part of his game. he has worked hard on his defensive game and skating, and the skating can sometimes hurt him on the defensive side as he can't recover in time to the slow thought process.

that said, i think he can get there. he seems like a very hard working kid and he knows he has an NHL release on his shot.

and as always, if he finds the right line mates to help shield him and feed him the puck, it'll help his confidence and help keep him on the ice longer.

edit: at worse i could see this kid being a guy that skates the 4th line and is a PP specialist that just uses his big body to get to the net and snipe goals from all over.

Skating, under the right direction is something players can definitely improve upon (look no further than Looch)

It`d be a massive bonus if he could have some of that offensive game translate to the NHL level

Thx for your thoughts/observations on his game too

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