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09-13-2013, 03:33 PM
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That is an excellent approach. Regarding LSL, no tapes were done, no review of the games were done with any players, and no reason was give to any player when they got cut.

This lack of communication has caused a major rash of crazy theories with the LSL parents. Parents are looking at the stats of their kids and a few other kids (+/-, goals, assists) and see that their kid has better stats than his competition. His kid gets cut and the parent is saying why, my son has better stats.

Since no explanation is given, the 1st thought that the parent has is that he is not from Lakeshore. Then it goes from, "I did not put you in the Lions camp", all the way to, "the team was made in the summer"

As the parents are not technical, have no idea what the evaluators are looking, and there is no feedback to the child as to why he got cut, you can understand why parents have all these thoughts.
Stats which were distributed, as you admit, are part of the game and complete review process. So there was review. Extent or completeness is another issue. Curious as to what was discussed with the players in the dressing room behind closed doors.

Having better stats especially +/-, goals, assists, points are poor indicators at the best of times.Especially true during exhibition games. Time on ice is given to the possibles as opposed to the core players. So the possibles generate numbers that bump them into the depth group or first option call-ups. Does not make them better than a core group player. Exhibition games are the ideal time to see such players against the oppositions better players and prep them for situations during the season.

Key indicators revolve around executing the objectives outlined in the game plan. Ability of the player to integrate a new team dynamic playing outside his home association comfort zone and progress from the start of the tryout process.

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09-13-2013, 08:27 PM
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The Lions, historically, do not surclass. Especially, if you are notgoing to play on the first 2 lines.
They've told a kid they will surclass him.

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09-13-2013, 10:30 PM
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The injured 2000 player in question is of AAA calibre. I have seen him play. This is not a stretch that he made the team. He is one of the top 2000s in LSL.

I know it is tough for the last cut in AAA to see someone make it who did not practice or play. However, when it is an injury issue, that is a bit of gray area as to what you do.

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09-14-2013, 12:16 AM
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09-14-2013, 01:12 PM
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I know the last cut.

He's a great kid, and a little small. He wasn't bitter at all.


He will likely play Espoir next year if he grows.

If he was 5'5 he would of made AAA.

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09-14-2013, 07:27 PM
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what does this thread have to do with the QMJHL ?

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09-14-2013, 07:48 PM
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Please note, claims have to be supported by the narrative or links. Otherwise natd.
I don't understand why you continue to delete every post I make that has a bit of negativity towards lsl hockey.

[QUOTE] Stats which were distributed, as you admit, are part of the game and complete review process. So there was review. Extent or completeness is another issue. Curious as to what was discussed with the players in the dressing room behind closed doors./QUOTE]

You are mis interpreting what I have said.
Please let me know how I can tell you what was discussed with the players behind close doors without getting my post deleted

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what does this thread have to do with the QMJHL ?
Part of the feeder system to the QMJHL. Just like NHL boards discussing the feeder system to the NHL.

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09-14-2013, 08:13 PM
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[QUOTE=GinoCyber;71112179]I don't understand why you continue to delete every post I make that has a bit of negativity towards lsl hockey.

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Stats which were distributed, as you admit, are part of the game and complete review process. So there was review. Extent or completeness is another issue. Curious as to what was discussed with the players in the dressing room behind closed doors./QUOTE]

You are mis interpreting what I have said.
Please let me know how I can tell you what was discussed with the players behind close doors without getting my post deleted

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Because you are targeting one organization with innuendo. Raising general points that do not target a specific organization may get something accomplished.

Per your posts #45 and #48 you clearly assert that no such discussion with players happened behind "closed doors" or elsewhere or in various circumstances.. Now you claim that such discussions took place.

Too many contradictions in what you post similar to the above.

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09-14-2013, 09:59 PM
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Because you are targeting one organization with innuendo. Raising general points that do not target a specific organization may get something accomplished.
That is because I am from LSL. I don't see how I can comment on another regions since I do not know the inner workings of that region.

For the record, I am not trying to accomplish anything. I am just posting what I see happening. I really doubt that LSL is going to care what some poster on a user forum says about them.

Also, how is post 30 not targeting one specific organization with innuendo?

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Per your posts #45 and #48 you clearly assert that no such discussion with players happened behind "closed doors" or elsewhere or in various circumstances.. Now you claim that such discussions took place.

Too many contradictions in what you post similar to the above.
Where am I saying discussions with players took place behind close doors?

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09-14-2013, 10:16 PM
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Saw many of the Peewee AAA games the past few days. The Conquerant are a machine and as I have stated many times, I do not see them loosing a game this year. Of the 4 teams from the Lac St Louis region, the only team I can see being above .500 is LSL South. The rest will be lucky to hit .400. Surprisingly the South Shore teams also look to be no better then average.

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09-14-2013, 10:18 PM
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Stats which were distributed, as you admit, are part of the game and complete review process. So there was review. Extent or completeness is another issue. Curious as to what was discussed with the players in the dressing room behind closed doors./QUOTE]

You are mis interpreting what I have said.
Please let me know how I can tell you what was discussed with the players behind close doors without getting my post deleted

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Answer to your LAST question in post #60 is bolded. At this stage there is no point in continuing with you.


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09-14-2013, 10:31 PM
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The south AA is supposed to be alright.

Ironically the south has scooped up Ammar Naek and his second in command.


The Lions don't like people talking bad about them.

Also a certain lakeshore high up used to be on this site.

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09-14-2013, 10:56 PM
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LSL South AAA is made up of mostly Lakeshore kids. Their pool to choose from has not gotten bigger because West Island did not contribute any top end players. So in the end all other organizations got a bigger pool to choose from for AAA while LSL South AAA is really just a Lakeshore AA team.

The territorial regions did no favors to any teams in Lac St Louis at least in Peewee.

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09-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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I want to sincerely apologize for the fact I predicted the Peewee AAA Conquerants to go undefeated. They lost this morning in the semi-finals of the Defi-Laval 3-2 against the Montreal Nationals.

It was an amazing game and the Nationals were a very good and hard working team.

The finals are today at 3pm against Quebec.

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I thought Montreal was supposed to be the worst team in AAA lol.

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09-15-2013, 12:35 PM
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I thought Montreal was supposed to be the worst team in AAA lol.
Who claimed that? They are are a top 10 team easily.

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I was told Montreal is the worst region.

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09-15-2013, 01:08 PM
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got to stop living in the west island bubble

mtl BTAAA will be top 5 also...stacked

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09-15-2013, 01:09 PM
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I want to sincerely apologize for the fact I predicted the Peewee AAA Conquerants to go undefeated. They lost this morning in the semi-finals of the Defi-Laval 3-2 against the Montreal Nationals.

It was an amazing game and the Nationals were a very good and hard working team.

The finals are today at 3pm against Quebec.
Perhaps they will go undefeated from now on lol. Huge surprise though.

I still think Conquérants win everything from now on.

But kudos to the Montréal kids

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09-16-2013, 06:54 AM
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I was told Montreal is the worst region.
I think people in general need to stop commenting on teams outside their regions. I know you didn't mean it in a bad way but from what you have heard. I am from the Montreal region but my son is not on this team and this team is very good and still have alot to improve. They were very well coached this weekend especial against the Conquerants. Don't get me wrong, I think the Conquerants are still the best team in Quebec and this was probably the best thing that happened to them in the long run. There #11 is the best 2001 on the province hands down but people need to start realizing that there are other players who are very good and there game plan should not always be around #11. They are pretty solid all the way around.

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09-16-2013, 06:57 AM
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Any updates on LSL north? Have did resolved their roster finally and did they indeed bring in players from LSL south. I am referring to PWAA.

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They brought in 3, the parent who got the coach fired has a son on the team and DDO has their former PW-AA coach, coaching the team.

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09-16-2013, 09:50 AM
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So they cut 3 kids who were there from the beginning for 3 outsiders. My buddy's son left the process near the beginning (not sure if cut or quit) so I lost my source!

Firing a coach at the 11th hour of a training camp is incredible. I am pretty sure the coach has little control over all of the stuff going on.

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So they cut 3 kids who were there from the beginning for 3 outsiders. My buddy's son left the process near the beginning (not sure if cut or quit) so I lost my source!

Firing a coach at the 11th hour of a training camp is incredible. I am pretty sure the coach has little control over all of the stuff going on.
Not fair that they cut kids who were there at the start to im port 3 kids from the other side. It should be all about developing players who want to be there and learn. Best part is they told kids cut from AAA who did not report to AA that they will be forever blackballed from the Lions. Lions want to win, that is all they are about......so if the kids are good enough they will make the team. I would guess if the kids who bailed on the system are on the bubble next year, they won't be chosen. But if they are in the top tier they will be chosen.

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