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February 5,1935 NHL Goaltending and Offensive Stats

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February 5,1935 NHL Goaltending and Offensive Stats

Very interesting find from the 1934-35 NHL season, goaltending stats including SV% plus offensive stats from just before the 2/3 point of the season:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...=6676%2C528054

Three goalies - Chabot, Connell and Hainsworth are in the .930-.940 SV% range.

Also the Shooting % rates are revealed. Leafs lead with app a 9% success rate.

Comparisons to modern hockey could be very interesting.

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Yes thats quite fascinating and it would make for an interesting comparative study to any number of decades.... noticed the article next to it as well. University hockey in Canada at one time enjoying a great deal of popularity, from before the turn of the Century right on through the 30's. Noted the McGill Redmen hadnt won (ties) a game in Toronto since 1914 some 21yrs earlier. How bizarre is that?

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Very interesting stuff. Hainsworth still holds up, even at his (relatively) advanced age (this was his age-40 season).

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Very interesting stuff. Hainsworth still holds up, even at his (relatively) advanced age (this was his age-40 season).
The article contains two very important comments.

First paragraph refers to the data as NHL recorded numbers and official record. Implies a level of standardization and commitment to keeping such data. Hopefully the resulting ongoing stats may be accessed for the gap years into the fifties or even earlier. Realize this may be wishful thinking.

Second comment touches on the recognition of workload pointing at a linkage between the number of shots and SV%.

Would be interesting to see what other data was recorded in the thirties and how it was analyzed.

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I've seen SV% for goalies posted before, but this is the only the second time I've seen shooting percentages being mentioned.

Save percentages and shooting percentages 1928-29 season.

Worters and Roach Lead Goalie Aces - Providence News, Jan 28, 1929

A later goalie SV% list can be found on page 8 of the Mar 8, 1929 L'Action catholique here:

http://collections.banq.qc.ca/ark:/52327/357283#

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Two Issues

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I've seen SV% for goalies posted before, but this is the only the second time I've seen shooting percentages being mentioned.

Save percentages and shooting percentages 1928-29 season.

Worters and Roach Lead Goalie Aces - Providence News, Jan 28, 1929

A later goalie SV% list can be found on page 8 of the Mar 8, 1929 L'Action catholique here:

http://collections.banq.qc.ca/ark:/52327/357283#
Two issues.

The official nature of the data which implies standardization or a clear definition of a SOG in terms of a save and a shot.

The data seems to surface at or past the midpoint mark off the regular season. This would narrow search efforts for missing data. Also there would be an expectation of similar end of season and/or playoff data. A spot check of this possibility becomes easier now.

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Excellent find! I can only hope there are more gems like this waiting to be re-discovered!

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Two issues.

The official nature of the data which implies standardization or a clear definition of a SOG in terms of a save and a shot.

The data seems to surface at or past the midpoint mark off the regular season. This would narrow search efforts for missing data. Also there would be an expectation of similar end of season and/or playoff data. A spot check of this possibility becomes easier now.
Looking at the standing on Jan. 23, 1935, there seems to be several games missing. Two each for the Americans and Eagles, and one each for the Red Wings and Maroons. Four games were played on the 22nd to bring the other 5 teams up to the games totals shown.

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Looking at the standing on Jan. 23, 1935, there seems to be several games missing. Two each for the Americans and Eagles, and one each for the Red Wings and Maroons. Four games were played on the 22nd to bring the other 5 teams up to the games totals shown.
Searching for end of season data. Problem is that some of the Gazette's seem to be missing. NHL offices were in Montreal and I am not sure how prompt the various reporting or compilation procedures were.

Eventually progress will be made.

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"Official" or not, these stats are messed up. Not only are there missing games, but totals don't add up. Team shots should equal opponents shots when totaled. They don't. The goals don't add up either. Toronto only gave up 61 goal through the first 30 games of 1934-35, not the 71 given in the article. St Louis only gave up 84 in their first 29 games, but they have them giving up 86 in only 27 games.

Some of that is probably typos, another paper might clear some of them up, but unfortunately I don't think this will help fill any holes in partial shot total data.

I have about half the season done with above 90% of the games having shot totals so far, but this doesn't even help me fill in the 1 missing game I have for Aitkenhead, as I have him with more saves through 9 games than they do through 10.

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