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09-19-2013, 10:42 PM
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Ryan Murray to Mtl

What's the value of Ryan Murray,
I'm not sure that i have ''as a habs fan'' what it need to get him or if I'm ready to give what it would take but I'm looking for a young LHD to play with Subban in the futur, at a younger age Markov would have been the perfect partner but he's getting old and the injuries haven't help.

I know that Jarmo Kekalainen drafted Lars Eller with St-Louis, maybe something around these 2 players could work ?

I really like Eller but because we already have Plekanec and Desharnais as #1 and #2 center, the only spot for Eller is on the third line, I know that trade should put some pressure on Galchenyuk but it could also increase his development.

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It pretty much won't happen.

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They would want a huge overpayment for him.

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What's the value of Ryan Murray,
Extremely high.

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I know that Jarmo Kekalainen drafted Lars Eller with St-Louis, maybe something around these 2 players could work ?

I really like Eller but because we already have Plekanec and Desharnais as #1 and #2 center, the only spot for Eller is on the third line, I know that trade should put some pressure on Galchenyuk but it could also increase his development.
This makes no sense for Columbus. Most of the scoring forwards are young and still developing, and there's no need to make a hurried move.

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What's the value of Ryan Murray,
I'm not sure that i have ''as a habs fan'' what it need to get him or if I'm ready to give what it would take but I'm looking for a young LHD to play with Subban in the futur, at a younger age Markov would have been the perfect partner but he's getting old and the injuries haven't help.

I know that Jarmo Kekalainen drafted Lars Eller with St-Louis, maybe something around these 2 players could work ?

I really like Eller but because we already have Plekanec and Desharnais as #1 and #2 center, the only spot for Eller is on the third line, I know that trade should put some pressure on Galchenyuk but it could also increase his development.
You won't like the price. Put another way, they had the opportunity to choose between Galchenyuk and Murray just a year ago. They chose Murray.

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You won't like the price.
tell me what you think it is, i know the price should be high but at what point ?

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This makes no sense for Columbus. Most of the scoring forwards are young and still developing, and there's no need to make a hurried move.
what are your needs ?

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He was drafted second overall last year. I doubt his stock has dropped at all in the eyes of the Columbus organization. He is still IMO their future #1 franchise defensman.



The type of value I'm guessing the Jackets organization place on Murray would not be worth it for any NHL franchise. Don't think something along the lines of Eller. Think Galchenyuk+

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First off it would never happen. Second off, inorder for them to accept Galchenyuk would be coming the other way along with other things. They picked Murray > Galchenyuk so start with him and add

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it would be Galchenyuk

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He was drafted second overall last year. I doubt his stock has dropped at all in the eyes of the Columbus organization. He is still IMO their future #1 defensman.



The type of value I'm guessing the Jackets organization place on Murray would not be worth it for any NHL franchise. Don't think something along the lines of Eller. Think Galchenyuk+
They could have just drafted Galchenyuk then.

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They could have just drafted Galchenyuk then.
The point is they chose Murray over him. So trading Murray straight up for Galchenyuk is basically saying "we made a mistake", unless there was a plus.

Regardless, they won't be moving Murray barring major overpayment. To think all he'd cost is Eller is absurd.

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They could have just drafted Galchenyuk then.
Yeah but he's asking whats the price. They picked Murray so if you're asking what it takes, it'll take the next best guy plus some.

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Yeah but he's asking whats the price. They picked Murray so if you're asking what it takes, it'll take the next best guy plus some.
Yeah, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense.

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They could have just drafted Galchenyuk then.
Hence why I said +? And obviously not a small one.

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He was drafted second overall last year. I doubt his stock has dropped at all in the eyes of the Columbus organization. He is still IMO their future #1 defensman.



The type of value I'm guessing the Jackets organization place on Murray would not be worth it for any NHL franchise. Don't think something along the lines of Eller. Think Galchenyuk+
don't forget that Galchenyuk only had 3 games played in the whole year before the draft, but he already played 48 nhl games with 27 pts and a total of 12:19 of TOI I'm not saying that Gally will have a better carreer but I think we should admit that it is very impressive.

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The point is they chose Murray over him. So trading Murray straight up for Galchenyuk is basically saying "we made a mistake", unless there was a plus.

Regardless, they won't be moving Murray barring major overpayment. To think all he'd cost is Eller is absurd.
Eller + what ?, Subban ? lol

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Hence why I said +? And obviously not a small one.
I don't think the difference between the two is big. I doubt MTL would do Murray for Chuckie straight up, let alone add. This just won't work.

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I don't think the difference between the two is big. I doubt MTL would do Murray for Chuckie straight up, let alone add. This just won't work.
I never insinuated Montreal would consider that. I was only stating what I think Columbus would want.

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I don't think the difference between the two is big. I doubt MTL would do Murray for Chuckie straight up, let alone add. This just won't work.
I think it is easy to understand that the habs wouldn't trade Galchenyuk for Murray, it shouldn't be a question...

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Columbus needs a legitimate 1st line center. RyJo is supposed to be that someday but clearly not now. Murray won't be traded though so it's a moot point.

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You won't like the price. Put another way, they had the opportunity to choose between Galchenyuk and Murray just a year ago. They chose Murray.
And we have a winner. Granted we had different people running the show but i got my doubts Kekalainen and Davidson arent fans of having Murray

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They're simply not going to trade one of their very best assets on a team that isn't targeting the Cup. Value doesn't matter, resume doesn't matter, it's just basic logic that says he won't be traded because he's exactly what you covet on a team like Columbus. Even if Eller and Galchenyuk fill roles, have a high ceiling, they're not going to sacrifice the best they have to offer for it.

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I think it is easy to understand that the habs wouldn't trade Galchenyuk for Murray, it shouldn't be a question...
Lars Eller isn't a player you trade your future #1 D for... Not sure why you thought you could get a guy like Murray for a guy who looks to be a 2nd line center at his very best.

There is no + Montreal could add to Eller to make it fair unless Montreal ***** the bed this season and gets a top 5 pick.

top 5 pick + Eller and it's still debatable from Colombus' view.

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You won't like the price. Put another way, they had the opportunity to choose between Galchenyuk and Murray just a year ago. They chose Murray.
Pretty much this.

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