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09-18-2013, 12:52 PM
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Falk will be 25 in October and needs waivers to be demoted.
A risk worth taking if he is anything like he was during game 1. He will make for a good whipping boy if he sees any ice.

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09-18-2013, 12:56 PM
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If we're to assume Cally, Hags and maybe Stepan aren't available to start the season, Can someone give me their best guess as to what the lines will look like for game 1( I guess a lot depends on who makes the team), but I'm just looking for likely scenarios.
Currently looks like (IMO):

Kreider-Richards-Nash
Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
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09-18-2013, 01:02 PM
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@BlueSeatBlogs I just got clarification from #Rangers PR on this question. No waivers needed if he doesn't make opening day roster.
Maybe Rangerboy can explain this to us. Can someone quote me so he can see it?

Talbot is 26 and has been a pro for three years.

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09-18-2013, 01:21 PM
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Maybe Rangerboy can explain this to us. Can someone quote me so he can see it?

Talbot is 26 and has been a pro for three years.
Are you on his blacklist?

Rangerboy/GAGline - Help 31 out. He really, really needs it.

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09-18-2013, 01:25 PM
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Who would blacklist -31-? 1/20 posts from him are really informative and that is like a top-3 ratio on HFNYR.

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09-18-2013, 01:26 PM
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Are you on his blacklist?

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I'm kind of thinking the Rangers PR is mistaken.... I can't see how Talbot would be exempt.

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Who would blacklist -31-? 1/20 posts from him are really informative
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Panthers fan just wondering what the goalie situation is with Hedberg released and Biron MIA. Who's the backup for when the season starts?

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09-18-2013, 01:29 PM
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so tough decisions still need to be made

Hagelin , Stepan, Callahan( none playing, joy )
Kreider, Richards, Nash
Pouliott, Brassard, Zuccarello
Boyle, Moore, Dorsett
Pyatt, Powe, Asham
Miller, Lindberg, Fast
Kristo, Haley, Mashinter
Hrvik, Yogan

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Who would blacklist -31-? 1/20 posts from him are really informative and that is like a top-3 ratio on HFNYR.
I'm about to blacklist him. Getting sick and tired of his avatar.

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I'm kind of thinking the Rangers PR is mistaken.... I can't see how Talbot would be exempt.
In all seriousness, I have no idea why Talbot would be exempt.

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Panthers fan just wondering what the goalie situation is with Hedberg released and Biron MIA. Who's the backup for when the season starts?
Biron only missed a day, he played yesterday. Hes the back up and Talbot has done pretty well so far in camp as the 3rd

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Outsider's question here, I see the Rangers have 23 forwards on their roster, but never saw any word on the following players: Taylor Burke (Never saw it confirmed that he was actually there); Josh Graves; Thomas Spelling; and Dyson Stevenson. Were they all released or are any of them still in camp?

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Panthers fan just wondering what the goalie situation is with Hedberg released and Biron MIA. Who's the backup for when the season starts?
Biron's not MIA.

Hedberg's been banished to the bowels of the NJ Turnpike.

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09-18-2013, 01:35 PM
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Perfect spot for him. JVR is used that way by Carlyle. Big body. Good eye-hand coordination. Likes to go to the net.

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09-18-2013, 01:36 PM
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Outsider's question here, I see the Rangers have 23 forwards on their roster, but never saw any word on the following players: Taylor Burke (Never saw it confirmed that he was actually there); Josh Graves; Thomas Spelling; and Dyson Stevenson. Were they all released or are any of them still in camp?
Spelling went back to Denmark. His team's season starts on Friday.

Graves was with us in Traverse City. Haven't heard from him at camp. Neither Burke nor Stevenson appear to have actually attended.

EDIT: I went back through some reports. I don't see any of those three listed in any of the camp groups. If they were here, they're certainly not any longer.

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Outsider's question here, I see the Rangers have 23 forwards on their roster, but never saw any word on the following players: Taylor Burke (Never saw it confirmed that he was actually there); Josh Graves; Thomas Spelling; and Dyson Stevenson. Were they all released or are any of them still in camp?
The Rangers have been doing some ghost cuts. Skapsi is another who is no longer at camp, but wasn't announced as cut at any time.

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09-18-2013, 01:44 PM
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If they take 8 d it will be Falk and Bickel with Johnson going down most likely. They make the most sense and Bickel can play forward if need be.

Assuming Stepan comes back:

Hagelin and Callahan to IR:

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Zuccarello-Brassard-Pouliot
Pyatt-Richards/Lindberg-Kristo/Fast/Richards
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Haley/Asham/Powe

So far, that is pretty much how I see it.

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Luckily, he isn't ready for a backup job yet so he won't be claimed.

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09-18-2013, 02:04 PM
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ESPN Top 100 forwards

#28 Rick Nash

#34 Ryan Callahan

#47 Derek Stepan(tied with Andrew Ladd and Mike Richards). FYI,Logan Couture is #13. Nazem Kadri is #78.

#87 Derick Brassard

#97 Brad Richards.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/notebook/_/pa...rank_forwards/

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I don't think Bickel will start this season on the NHL roster.

I like Syvret better than Johnson so far, though.

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If they take 8 d it will be Falk and Bickel with Johnson going down most likely. They make the most sense and Bickel can play forward if need be.

Assuming Stepan comes back:

Hagelin and Callahan to IR:

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Zuccarello-Brassard-Pouliot
Pyatt-Richards/Lindberg-Kristo/Fast/Richards
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Haley/Asham/Powe

So far, that is pretty much how I see it.
Third line is a tough call.

Richards-Lindberg-Fast/Kristo if you are forcing me into making a decision, I think with Richards slowing down he might be better suited on the wing. Only concern is possession and board play.

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09-18-2013, 02:14 PM
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Third line is a tough call.

Richards-Lindberg-Fast/Kristo if you are forcing me into making a decision, I think with Richards slowing down he might be better suited on the wing. Only concern is possession and board play.
I am under the assumption that Pyatt will make the team. If that is the case, he will be on the 3rd line. At least until Callahan and Hagelin make their way back.

Let's assume (2) of the following make the team:
Miller
Kreider
Lindberg
Fast
Hrivik

Which isn't a stretch at all, really.

Now let's look at the competent NHL players in camp:
Richards
Brassard
Stepan*
Nash
Callahan **
Hagelin **
Pyatt
Boyle
Dorsett
Moore
Pouliot
Asham
Powe
MZA
Haley - I really think he is a NHL 4th liner at this point

That is 14-15 NHL veterans already. Granted Callahan and Hagelin are hurt for the first month but assuming, say for arguments sake, Kreider and Lindberg make the team. That is 16-17 NHL quality forwards. That also doesn't count players like Mashinter or the other young players who don't make the team right away as quality
depth".

One has to assume that the Rangers will waive a couple of these guys and they will be picked up, no? If Powe is waived, will no team pick him up as a cheap depth forward? Asham? Pyatt?

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09-18-2013, 02:17 PM
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From Cerny's chat:

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Jim Cerny: Rangerfanlam: Top 6 forwards or D? As for prospects, pretty easy to see that, as predicted, Kristo, Lindberg, and Fast are the closest to being NHL players...today AV stated that all 3 "are pushing" for spots, though starting in minors would not be worst thing for any or all of them
They all looked good to me.

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