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09-17-2013, 08:52 AM
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Buddy Robinson - Candidate to Make the Team?

The Sun put up an article today about Buddy Robinson's background and his chances on making the team this season.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=432035

I'd never heard of him before this training camp and don't know anything other than what is in this article. Any scouting reports out there?

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09-17-2013, 08:56 AM
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He's a Brandon Bochenski trophy candidate.

He's not a candidate to make the team.

I like his speed - his skating is pretty good for such a big guy.

A lot of the bigger players (e.g. Lindros, Sundin) look like they're coasting out there with their big strides.

Robinson really moves his feet.

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1. Spezza
2. Turris
3. Zibanejad
4. Smith
5. Michalek
6. Macarthur
7. Greening
8. Ryan
9. Conacherz
10. Neil
11. Condra
12. O'brien
13. Kassian
14. Da Costa
15. Hoffman

There are 15 guys who are either assured spots on the team, or are waiver-eligible... and that's not even including Pageau or Stone, who are waiver exempt but may still be ahead of Robinson on the depth chart.

It's a numbers game. Robinson has a steep, steep hill to climb if he wants to make this team out of training camp. He not only has to be good enough to take someone's roster spot, but has to be so good that we are forced to waive or trade an extra player.


If he has a nice camp, he'll earn the praise of the organization, go down to Bingo, and wait for a call-up.

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09-17-2013, 09:10 AM
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I don't care how good he plays in the pre-season. The guy is raw. Send him to the AHL and make him earn it.

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09-17-2013, 09:40 AM
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He's not a candidate for the team, but I could see him being a call up if injuries happen and he's doing well in Bingo.

Good on the kid for playing well thus far, but I think he knows he's not an NHL player at this point. Keep working his ass off though, and you never know.

He won't be starting on the team though.

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As others have said, it's a numbers game. He's more realistically competing for call-up priority than he is for a roster spot.

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1. Spezza
2. Turris
3. Zibanejad
4. Smith
5. Michalek
6. Macarthur
7. Greening
8. Ryan
9. Conacher
10. Neil
11. Condra
12. O'brien
13. Kassian
14. Da Costa
15. Hoffman

There are 15 guys who are either assured spots on the team, or are waiver-eligible... and that's not even including Pageau or Stone, who are waiver exempt but may still be ahead of Robinson on the depth chart.

It's a numbers game. Robinson has a steep, steep hill to climb if he wants to make this team out of training camp. He not only has to be good enough to take someone's roster spot, but has to be so good that we are forced to waive or trade an extra player.


If he has a nice camp, he'll earn the praise of the organization, go down to Bingo, and wait for a call-up.
In two years, I could see half of the players gone. Hoffman and DaCosta are not a sure thing. You can add Lazar and Prince as potential forwards to add to the group.

He doesn't have to make the team this year, he is still young. If he turns out into another Greening (Bigger, not as fast but with a better shot), he will have his chance with the Sens in 2 years.

It's not bad for a guy undrafted.

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He's not a candidate for the team, but I could see him being a call up if injuries happen and he's doing well in Bingo.

Good on the kid for playing well thus far, but I think he knows he's not an NHL player at this point. Keep working his ass off though, and you never know.

He won't be starting on the team though.
I don't see him as a call up unless he's having a great year in Bingo or Sens are looking for size.

Others will have their chance before he does. I'm thinking Hoffman, Prince, Pageau.

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Guy needs min of a year in bingo just for the experience. I will say he's becoming one of my fav prospects though...

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I love it when these un-drafted college free agents show promise. They're the hockey equivalent of free money.

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Agree with numbers game: I expect that Da Costa & JOB could be placed on waivers since it's quite likely at the beginning of the season no team will want to use a waiver token on a bubble player. Does anyone know how many players a team can lose on waivers in any given yr & how many waiver pick ups any team can use?

I initially thought the team would only carry 22 roster players due to budget concerns but because of who is not waiver exaempt I now think Ottawa could carry 23 players & keep Hoffman in Ottawa. Of the guys who must be placed on waivers Conacher, Gryba & Hoffman are the three I think some other team would grab off waivers, Da Costa & JOB maybe not so much. I guess we'll see soon enough.

Robinson is quite likely to get a better look next yr although he could be a callup at some point this season. Good to see him having some success early, this can only benefit Bingo & the organization.

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I don't see him as a call up unless he's having a great year in Bingo or Sens are looking for size.

Others will have their chance before he does. I'm thinking Hoffman, Prince, Pageau.
I guess my "doing well in Bingo" should have been doing great in Bingo. Obviously there are players ahead of him, however if he is playing better than those players - I could see him as a call up.

I feel like as coaches stand for the Sens now, the best player plays. So if he's doing great in Bingo, I could see him as a call up. Otherwise, he'll be a Bingo player. But hey, that's not too shabby I guess.

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Don't think he has a shot at the team, as others have said. Sure making himself known though, which is a good thing.

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Depending on who goes down and what the team needs, I could see him being one of the first call-ups.

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He had 16 points in 38 games in college hockey last year. The previous year he had 10 points in 39 games. He's got a ways to go before being considered a serious candidate to make the big team.

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He scored a beautiful goal against Calgary I'll give you that. Very underrated skill.

However, he is at least another year in the AHL away from being in conversation of making team.

May get a couple games next year.

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Look for him to be a top 6 player in Bingo where he can learn the professional game.

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I really don't see any scenario where Robinson makes the team.

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But what if he is the next Lemieux?

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But what if he is the next Lemieux?
He can Lemieux it up in the AHL before Lemieuxing it up in the NHL.

2way contracts are very important to a team like us.

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Don't think he has a shot at the team, as others have said. Sure making himself known though, which is a good thing.
I would think Robinson goes to Bingo, the Sens have too many players on 1-way deals that even if Robinson deserves the opportunity it just won't happen.

The battles are for two positions IMO, second line winger and a spot in the bottom six. In the battle for the top six job, I see the Hoffman and Stone currently in the lead to date.

Hoffman has been solid in practice and in his one game showed he can play defense and is very capable of creating offense on the Turris line ES and from the point on the PP.

Stone has also been solid in practice and in his one appearance showed just how smart a player he is at both ends of the ice.

IMO Conacher hasn't helping his cause with his undisciplined play. While he did score in his second game he is going to have to show more if he wants to push Stone or Hoffman aside.

It is easy to project the Sens will carry 14 forwards to start the year, giving Murray time to solve the numbers problem.

Based on all the factors I believe the Sens will start the year with the following players.

Spezz, Michalek, Ryan, Turris, MacArthur, Stone, Hoffman,
Greening, Zibanejad, Neil, Smith, Condra, Conacher, Kassian,
Karlsson, Methot, Phillips, Cowen, Corvo, Weircoich, Gryba,
Anderson, Lehner.

Unfortuately I see Pageau starting the year in Bingo, mostly due to contract, but also due to MacLean's stated reluctance to move either Zibby or Smith to the wing.

Everyone one else will head to Bingo with the possible exception of Da Costa who could get lost on waivers.

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I would think Robinson goes to Bingo, the Sens have too many players on 1-way deals that even if Robinson deserves the opportunity it just won't happen.

The battles are for two positions IMO, second line winger and a spot in the bottom six. In the battle for the top six job, I see the Hoffman and Stone currently in the lead to date.

Hoffman has been solid in practice and in his one game showed he can play defense and is very capable of creating offense on the Turris line ES and from the point on the PP.

Stone has also been solid in practice and in his one appearance showed just how smart a player he is at both ends of the ice.

IMO Conacher hasn't helping his cause with his undisciplined play. While he did score in his second game he is going to have to show more if he wants to push Stone or Hoffman aside.

It is easy to project the Sens will carry 14 forwards to start the year, giving Murray time to solve the numbers problem.

Based on all the factors I believe the Sens will start the year with the following players.

Spezz, Michalek, Ryan, Turris, MacArthur, Stone, Hoffman,
Greening, Zibanejad, Neil, Smith, Condra, Conacher, Kassian,
Karlsson, Methot, Phillips, Cowen, Corvo, Weircoich, Gryba,
Anderson, Lehner.

Unfortuately I see Pageau starting the year in Bingo, mostly due to contract, but also due to MacLean's stated reluctance to move either Zibby or Smith to the wing.

Everyone one else will head to Bingo with the possible exception of Da Costa who could get lost on waivers.
First off the battle for the second line spot is being lead by Hoffman and Stone ? Hoffman has been the only player to play a game in that spot. I hope Stone wins the spot he brings much more than Hoffman ever could. I would much rather see Conacher playing with Zibanejad on the third line. As far as Conacher being undisiplined it goes hand in hand with being a agitator. Not saying it's right but it part of the package these type of players bring.
As far as Buddy Robinson is concerned a full season in Binghamton is what will be best for his development.

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Buddy, The Beast... at 6'5" and 235 lbs, Robinson has the potential to be another Cam Neely power forward. I am hoping he also has a bit of a mean streak, which IMO is what's lacking in Greening's game. No point being an imposing beast if you're tame as a doodle.

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Buddy, The Beast... at 6'5" and 235 lbs, Robinson has the potential to be another Cam Neely power forward. I am hoping he also has a bit of a mean streak, which IMO is what's lacking in Greening's game. No point being an imposing beast if you're tame as a doodle.
At least we aren't expecting a lot.

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At least we aren't expecting a lot.
fine...atleast the next Lucic

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