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09-17-2013, 09:14 AM
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Fewest PIM per game over a career?

I just stumbled across the for me previously unknown name Bill Quackenbush. I can admit that at first it was his interesting name that caught my attention, but checking out his career numbers made me go

As a defenseman, having 95 PIM in 774 NHL games is just stunning. Thatís just above 7 seconds per game.

Is there any other player in the history of the NHL, who have played at least a decent number of games, who can beat that?

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09-17-2013, 09:34 AM
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syl apps only had like 45pims over his carrer

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syl apps only had like 45pims over his carrer
Good one!

56 PIMs in 423 games. Close to 8 seconds per game.

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=124888

Not in the NHL, but still really impressive.
2 PIM in 192 games in the QMJHL.

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Butch Goring had only 102 pim in 1107 games. Thats 0.09 minutes per game or 5.4 seconds per game.

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Don Marshall had 127 penalty minutes in 1,176 games (0.108/game)

Dave Keon had 117 penalty minutes in 1,296 (0.09/game)

Clint Smith had 24 penalty minutes in 483 games (0.0497/game)

Val Fonteyne had 26 penalty minutes in 820 games (0.031/game)

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Lew Morrison came to mind because of his zero PM performance in 76 games for Pittsburgh in 76/77, but turns out he was a bit feisty early in his career with a couple of 20-minute seasons, so he was only 107 minutes in 563 games.

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Val Fonteyne had 26 penalty minutes in 820 games (0.031/game)
Ya this guy would be my best guess. He went on to play over 140 games in the WHA where he collected either 4 minors for 8 minutes or 2 minors for 4 minutes. Man... what a terror. Played the PK in Pittsburgh with Ron Schock & Nick Harburuk (sp-sic?). Sometimes with Andy Bathgate. Solid two way Left Winger.

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Val Fonteyne had 26 penalty minutes in 820 games (0.031/game)
I wish we could have kept him in Seattle, but he was clearly a great fit in the NHL. What a classy player.

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I wish we could have kept him in Seattle, but he was clearly a great fit in the NHL. What a classy player.
Ya. Un-signed, and a WHL All-Star his last 2 seasons in Seattle racking up 156 points. Recommended to Detroit by Bud Polie then Coach of their farm club in Edmonton, playing 4yrs in Detroit, off to the Rangers for a season, back to Detroit etc. Listed at 5'9" and 155lbs.

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Ya. Un-signed, and a WHL All-Star his last 2 seasons in Seattle racking up 156 points. Recommended to Detroit by Bud Polie then Coach of their farm club in Edmonton, playing 4yrs in Detroit, off to the Rangers for a season, back to Detroit etc. Listed at 5'9" and 155lbs.
And some of the best eyebrows in the league, hands down.

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And some of the best eyebrows in the league, hands down.
Got me curious, sure enough; Unibrow Man. Not much hair on top. Looks a bit of a branch swinger... more hair in between his eyes than on his head. Make for a Hell of a comb-over huh Taco?


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And some of the best eyebrows in the league, hands down.
It reminds me of what Bill James once wrote about Wally Moon, who had a bachelor's and a masters degree.

"One of the few players in baseball history to have more degrees than eyebrows".

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Of the players who played in 1990s/2000s, Sergei Berezin stands out with 502 games/54 PIM.

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Quackenbush's lack of PIMs is extremely impressive because he was an excellent defensive defenseman.

On that note, look at Jay Pandolfo, one of the best defensive wingers of his generation. 164 PIM in 899 regular season games, 12 PIM in 131 playoff games! For a guy playing lock-down defense. I find that much more impressive than a soft one-dimensional offensive guy like Berezin avoiding the penalty box.

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This is an under rated skill. I like players with 2489+ PIMs such as Hunter, "The Little Ball of Hate" Verbeek, and Shanahan, but they sure did create PPs for their opponents.

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Kyle Wellwood.

36 PIM per 489 regular season games.
0 PIM per 40 playoff games.

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Quackenbush's lack of PIMs is extremely impressive because he was an excellent defensive defenseman.

On that note, look at Jay Pandolfo, one of the best defensive wingers of his generation. 164 PIM in 899 regular season games, 12 PIM in 131 playoff games! For a guy playing lock-down defense. I find that much more impressive than a soft one-dimensional offensive guy like Berezin avoiding the penalty box.
For sure. Extremely impressive. Keon's numbers are also eye popping.

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If we're talking about "bang for the buck", defensive hockey without taking penalties, I can't give better answers than Quackenbush, Keon, and Pandolfo.

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Good one Mayor Bee! Hmmmm...No Swedes or Finns (so far). Mr. Cherry, how do you account for this?

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I wish we could have kept him in Seattle, but he was clearly a great fit in the NHL. What a classy player.
If I recall correctly, wasn't Fonteyne the player who went almost 4 seasons without taking a penalty and later went another 3 seasons without one?

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If I recall correctly, wasn't Fonteyne the player who went almost 4 seasons without taking a penalty and later went another 3 seasons without one?
Here you go.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=1733


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Carl Lefty Liscombe in the 30's & 40's in Detroit rarely took more than 20 minutes in penalties per season, one year zero. Won some Cups. Interesting character & great player. Played on a line with Syd Howe; first pro player to hit 100 points in a season. One time scored 3 goals in a minute & four seconds, a record that stood until Bill Mosienko beat it. Seems Lefty didnt get along with Jack Adams and in 9yrs with Detroit the two never spoke, as hard as that might be to imagine. Just suffered each other in silence I guess. Though more than capable of playing & starring in the NHL for years to come, Adams sent him down to Providence of the AHL where in 1949 he led the league in scoring (breaking the record by 20 points) 2yrs running, voted league MVP, winning the American League Championships. Retired thereafter.

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Might be relevant

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...order_by_asc=Y

>700 GP
< 100 Pims

Fontayne
Henry
Quackenbush
Dumart

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