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04-11-2014, 06:49 AM
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Nolan firing entire coaching staff?

http://www.wgr550.com/Sabres-Nolan-l...asons/18789493

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Boston, MA (WGR 550) -- Multiple people inside the Sabres organization have told me that Ted Nolan will let go his entire staff when the season is over.

The only coach Im unclear on is Joe Sacco although many are telling me hes gone too. As a matter of fact, some on the staff are already telling people they know theyre gone.

Nolan has complete say over his coaching staff and hed like to bring in people hes worked with and knows. He has mentioned his admiration for Team Latvia goalie coach Arthurs Irbe who coached the Capitals goaltenders through 2011.

Sacco and Jerry Forton were hired by Ron Rolston at the start of this season.

Teppo Numminenn was handpicked by Darcy Regier and spent three years as a Sabres assistant. He played another four years here under Lindy Ruff.

Jim Corsi spent 16 seasons coaching the Sabres goalies.

Doug McKenney has been the Sabres strength and conditioning coach for 20 years. Nolan has been very vocal in the past month about how he thinks the Sabres are not well conditioned which he feels has led to numerous injuries. Nolan also wants to see drastic changes to the offseason training program.

The Sabres wrap up the season with a home game Sunday against the Islanders.

Letting Corsi go? Seriously?

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04-11-2014, 06:56 AM
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Maybe he heard "Corsi sucks" and took it to meant Jim

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04-11-2014, 06:58 AM
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How are we supposed to tank for McDavid without Sacco????

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04-11-2014, 07:00 AM
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I hope they make Sean Skahan and Mitch Korn an offer they can't refuse.

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He's respected and a classy guy, but that said, I have no idea how good/bad a coach he is. Still, I'd hate to see Teppo depart.
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I hope they make Sean Skahan and Mitch Korn an offer they can't refuse.
If you're going to replace Corsi, you might as well hit a home run with old friend Mitch. Irbe seems a bit risky compared to some other proven guys, but maybe he's a hot up-and-comer. Hopefully he coaches better than he selects goalie masks.

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We can't lose Tank Commander Joe Sacco!

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04-11-2014, 07:57 AM
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Yeah, I think Corsi has been an above average goalie coach over the years. If you are going to replace him, you have to upgrade.

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Yikes!

Hope Teddy's a better coach selector than he is a coach.

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04-11-2014, 08:06 AM
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How hard is it to coach the Sabres Goalies over the past 16 years? I'm not saying the guy is bad, but I'm not going to panic if he's gone.

We're starting over. Fresh start across the board for me please.

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How hard is it to coach the Sabres Goalies over the past 16 years? I'm not saying the guy is bad, but I'm not going to panic if he's gone.

We're starting over. Fresh start across the board for me please.
Replacing Corsi isn't cause for concern.

Hiring Irbe might be.

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04-11-2014, 08:18 AM
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I still can't get something that Murray said during one of his first interviews, and that's that "everyone has their own people in mind", referring to a question to him asking if he had people he's familiar with, who'd he'd bring into the organization.

I know Ted just extended for 3 years also. I'd say the odds are pretty good, we'll be a decent team then, and probably a playoff contender. Is it Murray's thinking that once the rebuild is over, he may bring in 'his guys' (coaches, etc.) into the organization?

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The thing is, I'd want to see a complete makeover of the entire coaching staff only if I was really confident in the person who was doing it.

Teddy's reputation is that he has weaknesses as a coach that he really needs his assistants to cover for (i.e., good at motivation, bad at teaching systems). So I'm rather skeptical that he should be the guy selecting those people, all of them, en masse.

Firing one guy is one thing, but firing everybody at once seems like a power move.

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The thing is, I'd want to see a complete makeover of the entire coaching staff only if I was really confident in the person who was doing it.

Teddy's reputation is that he has weaknesses as a coach that he really needs his assistants to cover for (i.e., good at motivation, bad at teaching systems). So I'm rather skeptical that he should be the guy selecting those people, all of them, en masse.

Firing one guy is one thing, but firing everybody at once seems like a power move.
Why can't Ted have a choice in hiring his own coaching staff? All coaches in the major leagues are allowed to hire their own staffs, why is this any different?

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04-11-2014, 08:37 AM
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Love it, completely trust Teddy.. The team needs a completely new start, this is the last part of it.

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I wonder if this is why the contract negotiations dragged out for such a long time.

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I'm more concerned that we are going to turnover all the coaches within 3 years again. Unless people expect Nolan is the guy that wins us a cup/makes us competitive in the playoffs?

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I wonder if this is why the contract negotiations dragged out for such a long time.
Paul Hamilton speculated that this morning on WGR. I don't know if it's something he knows or thinks, but he said Nolan having control over his staff was "a sticking point in contract talks"

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Ted should pick his own guys. If you are a head coach, you want your own staff that you select.


Guys that Teddy has connections to that have coaching experience. Anyone can feel free to add to this.

Coaches
Tom Coolen
Don Lever
Daniel Lacroix (currently with NYR)
Jay McKee
John Chabot
Kevin McCarthy
Danny Flynn
Jim Schoenfeld
Randy Cunneyworth
Derek Plante
Brad May
Mike Peca
Moe Mantha
Andrew Cassels
Bob Boughner
Steve Weeks (currently with CHI as a goalie coach, was an assistant with Atlanta)
Craig Ramsay
Brent Hughes
Charlie Huddy (currently with WPG but Maurice might bring in his own assistants)
Doug Houda (currently with Boston)
Danny Gare
Wayne Gretzky
Terry Ruskowski
Doug Shedden
Craig Simpson
Randy Hillier

Goalie Coaches
Artus Irbe
Mitch Korn (currently with NSH)
Gilles Lefebvre
Martin Biron (played for him and is doing harbor stuff but has never coached)


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Why can't Ted have a choice in hiring his own coaching staff? All coaches in the major leagues are allowed to hire their own staffs, why is this any different?
It's only different in that it's so drastic. Gutting the whole department top to bottom looks less like serious critique of each individual's performance and more like you just want to flex muscle.

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Ted should pick his own guys. If you are a head coach, you want your own staff that you select.


Guys that Teddy has connections to that have coaching experience. Anyone can feel free to add to this.

Coaches
Tom Coolen
Don Lever
Daniel Lacroix (currently with NYR)
Jay McKee
John Chabot
Kevin McCarthy
Danny Flynn
Jim Schoenfeld
Randy Cunneyworth
Derek Plante
Brad May
Mike Peca
Moe Mantha
Andrew Cassels
Steve Weeks (currently with CHI as a goalie coach, was an assistant with Atlanta)

Goalie Coaches
Artus Irbe
Mitch Korn (currently with NSH)
Gilles Lefebvre
Martin Biron (played for him and is doing harbor stuff but has never coached)
Bob Boughner - I expect Nolan to do everything possible to persuade him to leave Windsor.

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It's only different in that it's so drastic. Gutting the whole department top to bottom looks less like serious critique of each individual's performance and more like you just want to flex muscle.
So he should just leave the Assistants that someone else hired and he has no connection to?

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Ted should pick his own guys. If you are a head coach, you want your own staff that you select.


Guys that Teddy has connections to that have coaching experience. Anyone can feel free to add to this.

Coaches
Tom Coolen
Don Lever
Daniel Lacroix (currently with NYR)
Jay McKee
John Chabot
Kevin McCarthy
Danny Flynn
Jim Schoenfeld
Randy Cunneyworth
Derek Plante
Brad May
Mike Peca
Moe Mantha
Andrew Cassels
Bob Boughner
Steve Weeks (currently with CHI as a goalie coach, was an assistant with Atlanta)

Goalie Coaches
Artus Irbe
Mitch Korn (currently with NSH)
Gilles Lefebvre
Martin Biron (played for him and is doing harbor stuff but has never coached)
Cunneyworth and Boughner please

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Cunneyworth and Boughner please
I was thinking the same thing. Cunneyworth is already in the organization.

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It's only different in that it's so drastic. Gutting the whole department top to bottom looks less like serious critique of each individual's performance and more like you just want to flex muscle.
Or like most coaches, they want their own people. He just worked a sizable amount of time with all of the staff he is letting go. Obviously he saw what he had and wanted something else.

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The thing is, I'd want to see a complete makeover of the entire coaching staff only if I was really confident in the person who was doing it.

Teddy's reputation is that he has weaknesses as a coach that he really needs his assistants to cover for (i.e., good at motivation, bad at teaching systems). So I'm rather skeptical that he should be the guy selecting those people, all of them, en masse.

Firing one guy is one thing, but firing everybody at once seems like a power move.
Its kind of unfair to force Nolan to use coaches that were put in place by two coaches who also had a weakness of systems without his say.

You're really tying Nolan's hands especially or the next three years if you don't allow him to make the changes he wants. Outside of maybe Corsi, is there anybody you really can trust to be a good assistant to DEVELOP the kids?

In My Opinion:

Numminen - Outside of Sekera, IMO, it seems every other defenseman has regressed, since he's been employed. His whole career he has been known to be a very finesse defenseman. When he played, he always mirrored guys' sticks with his and pretty much shadowed guys and didn't really take guys out of the play. When you watch our Defenseman they play the exact same style. Nobody on this team knows how to take out a guy. When they do, they seem to try awkwardly.

Sacco - Just awful. He has very timid systems, his PP is poorly organized and there is next to no movement. He has been a failure as a hire when Rolston hired him.

McKenney - I'm not sure why he is still here. We have had issues with injuries, and players seem to be gased, and this goes along with guys casually skating back to the bench. We are also very weak on pucks and in corners. This shows up when a new guy comes in and he looks physically stronger than anybody else.

If you're entrusting him with 3 more years, you should allow him to put in place guys HE can trust.

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