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Everybody's excited for the Flames noon press conference????

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Always good to see a Brian Burke press Conference, especially in another Canadian market

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Top 15 rookies to watch from Mathias Brunet

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In addition to the post I made in the last thread (didn't reply before it was closed down)

Jonathan Bernier has been a back up his entire career, whether that is warranted or not it's still a fact. He was just traded to Toronto, who has Reimer which makes it still a position where Bernier isn't guaranteed the starting job. So how Dreger and these "powerful people" think he is going to earn the starting job, and put up the needed performance to supplant veteran starting goaltenders before the team is chosen in December is laughable.

It really shows that while Dreger has his connections and what not, he throws **** at the wall and hopes it sticks just as much as some of the other wieners you hear from. I cannot possibly believe he honestly thinks Bernier is going to play himself onto team Canada with so little experience and such a short period of time, perhaps it's something to take the heat and attention off his cousin's poor management of the cap and RFA's? Although I don't feel it worked very well if that's the case.

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I don't think Bernier will be part of Team Canada unless of injuries of course but I do think the Leafs acquired him to give him hist shot and will make him the starter. They've been looking to trade for a goalie for 2 years now, says much about what they think of Reimer. If he get's hot to start the year he might be in the conversations for TC but I really doubt he will be on the team

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Seems that we're giving our motto to the Bruins this year...

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/0...ins-this-year/

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More truculence in Calgary...

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More truculence in Calgary...
Nobody can say the Burke went for an easy job...Calgary has about the worst asset base in the NHL. They are nowhere close to contending.

My biggest question is will he let the team suck and build with high draft picks, or try and shortcut the process like he tried to do in Toronto, before it blew up in his face...

Best thing Calgary can do is sell off veterans the next 2 years and stockpile prospects and picks. A core of Cammalleri Hudler Glencross Wideman Giordano Ramo is as bad as it gets.

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Seems that we're giving our motto to the Bruins this year...

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/0...ins-this-year/
<--- We all know this avatar will still come in handy this year.

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<--- We all know this avatar will still come in handy this year.
They can't use it this year...or so they're saying. But we all know it will eventually comes back....So keep that avatar rolling...

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For whoever wants to watch some hockey tonight....Nucks, Oilers, Flames and Sharks open their rookie tournament.

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Nobody can say the Burke went for an easy job...Calgary has about the worst asset base in the NHL. They are nowhere close to contending.

My biggest question is will he let the team suck and build with high draft picks, or try and shortcut the process like he tried to do in Toronto, before it blew up in his face...

Best thing Calgary can do is sell off veterans the next 2 years and stockpile prospects and picks. A core of Cammalleri Hudler Glencross Wideman Giordano Ramo is as bad as it gets.
Calgary has a lot better prospects and young players then Toronto did when Burke took over. They likely won't be very good this season but if they trade a few vets for picks and prospects plus their own picks, they should be looking upward from there.

With the cap system there is very little benefit to doing what Edmonton did, which is tanking for 5 years. A couple of years is all you need if you have a handful of good prospects in your system like Baertschi.

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In addition to the post I made in the last thread (didn't reply before it was closed down)

Jonathan Bernier has been a back up his entire career, whether that is warranted or not it's still a fact. He was just traded to Toronto, who has Reimer which makes it still a position where Bernier isn't guaranteed the starting job. So how Dreger and these "powerful people" think he is going to earn the starting job, and put up the needed performance to supplant veteran starting goaltenders before the team is chosen in December is laughable.

It really shows that while Dreger has his connections and what not, he throws **** at the wall and hopes it sticks just as much as some of the other wieners you hear from. I cannot possibly believe he honestly thinks Bernier is going to play himself onto team Canada with so little experience and such a short period of time, perhaps it's something to take the heat and attention off his cousin's poor management of the cap and RFA's? Although I don't feel it worked very well if that's the case.
Dreger is one of the biggest boobs in the industry. You know that he's pitching to Leafs fanbase 100% of the time and he's absolutely useless at everything he does.

If he was at all closer to the Habs market he'd be my number 1 hatarade victim but unfortunately for all parties involved it's Dave "dinner with Spacek" Stubbs, that wiener.

Weiners, boobs and shills. That's all we get in the hockey world. I think aside from Wyshynski and the occasional in-depth article here and there, everyone involved in hockey journalism is a big piece of ****.

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In addition to the post I made in the last thread (didn't reply before it was closed down)

Jonathan Bernier has been a back up his entire career, whether that is warranted or not it's still a fact. He was just traded to Toronto, who has Reimer which makes it still a position where Bernier isn't guaranteed the starting job. So how Dreger and these "powerful people" think he is going to earn the starting job, and put up the needed performance to supplant veteran starting goaltenders before the team is chosen in December is laughable.

It really shows that while Dreger has his connections and what not, he throws **** at the wall and hopes it sticks just as much as some of the other wieners you hear from. I cannot possibly believe he honestly thinks Bernier is going to play himself onto team Canada with so little experience and such a short period of time, perhaps it's something to take the heat and attention off his cousin's poor management of the cap and RFA's? Although I don't feel it worked very well if that's the case.
Never liked Dreger. I think hes full of ****, he never give his honest opinion and when he has a scoop its basically someone calling him to push their agenda. Plus he has that huge Toronto bias that dont help TSN shake off their Toronto Sports Network moniker.

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Seems that we're giving our motto to the Bruins this year...

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/0...ins-this-year/
First they steal our motto...

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Weiners, boobs and shills. That's all we get in the hockey world. I think aside from Wyshynski and the occasional in-depth article here and there, everyone involved in hockey journalism is a big piece of ****.
Wyshynski? I like him but he's a glorified blogger, not a journalist. If you hate Stubbs' fluff, what do you think of some recent hard-hitting Puck Daddy pieces like "who made the first Cindy Crosby joke on twitter?", "Sean Avery responds to engagement rumor" and "Lou Lamoriello admires Jaromir Jagr's big rear end"?

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Wyshynski? I like him but he's a glorified blogger, not a journalist. If you hate Stubbs' fluff, what do you think of some recent hard-hitting Puck Daddy pieces like "who made the first Cindy Crosby joke on twitter?", "Sean Avery responds to engagement rumor" and "Lou Lamoriello admires Jaromir Jagr's big rear end"?
I included Wyshynski because my underlying point was about ALL of hockey journalism, I'm quite aware that he's a blogger. Dave Stubbs and/or Hickey get to travel with the ****ing Habs but they haven't ONCE written a single thing in depth about the team. Why the 09 Habs fell apart? Why the PP/PK messed up in Jacques Martin's final year? Nothing.

All he did was interview Spacek and his fat little kids like twenty times. Enough is enough, Stubbs has no credibility.

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I included Wyshynski because my underlying point was about ALL of hockey journalism, I'm quite aware that he's a blogger. Dave Stubbs and/or Hickey get to travel with the ****ing Habs but they haven't ONCE written a single thing in depth about the team. Why the 09 Habs fell apart? Why the PP/PK messed up in Jacques Martin's final year? Nothing.

All he did was interview Spacek and his fat little kids like twenty times. Enough is enough, Stubbs has no credibility.
Stubbs job is to write feature articles about people and things around the game. We've been over this before. He's also connected to the players current and past.
I guarantee you that Beliveau is in his contact list, and Jean would take his call.

If that's "no credibility" then I want that kind of lack of credibility.

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Stubbs job is to write feature articles about people and things around the game. We've been over this before. He's also connected to the players current and past.
I guarantee you that Beliveau is in his contact list, and Jean would take his call.

If that's "no credibility" then I want that kind of lack of credibility.
That's exactly the problem - he's super well connected but he doesn't do his job. I think he has access to every single player on the Habs if he so wishes - it's that he DOESN'T DO HIS JOB THAT IS THE PROBLEM. He doesn't write about hockey, he writes about the players. That would be fine if we had someone to write about the team but that's not the case, they're all more interested in being cheerleaders and "in the know" than actually reporting.

I couldn't care less if he's friends with Jean Beliveau if he's not going to use that connection for anything worthwhile. The man has not written about the sport or about hockey in a long god damn time. Again, I wouldn't mind if we had an alternative but he's the head English journalist and all he does is ******* the scrub of the team with puff pieces. It's frustrating to say the least.

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Calgary has a lot better prospects and young players then Toronto did when Burke took over. They likely won't be very good this season but if they trade a few vets for picks and prospects plus their own picks, they should be looking upward from there.

With the cap system there is very little benefit to doing what Edmonton did, which is tanking for 5 years. A couple of years is all you need if you have a handful of good prospects in your system like Baertschi.
Calgary has better prospects than Toronto in 2008 but it's not by a huge gap. Toronto had more veterans with value and who could play. Calgary will be bringing up young players with no help like Edmonton, will be a long slow process.

Problem with the cap system for a team like Clagary is you have to spend to the cap floor, the UFA market is not very good plus nobody wants to sign with a bottom 5 team they know will suck for 3-4 years.

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That's exactly the problem - he's super well connected but he doesn't do his job. I think he has access to every single player on the Habs if he so wishes - it's that he DOESN'T DO HIS JOB THAT IS THE PROBLEM. He doesn't write about hockey, he writes about the players. That would be fine if we had someone to write about the team but that's not the case, they're all more interested in being cheerleaders and "in the know" than actually reporting.

I couldn't care less if he's friends with Jean Beliveau if he's not going to use that connection for anything worthwhile. The man has not written about the sport or about hockey in a long god damn time. Again, I wouldn't mind if we had an alternative but he's the head English journalist and all he does is ******* the scrub of the team with puff pieces. It's frustrating to say the least.
What you don't quite get , is that is his job. He's not at the Gazette to talk hockey, but rather people. I'd say he is doing a very good job at what he does. Here is his bio:

Dave Stubbs figures that everyone in sports is a great human story, whether they drive a Zamboni or a Ferrari, whether they make a hockey stick or earn millions of dollars playing with one. He's been profiling these people for going on three decades, and until he runs out of subjects or folks stop talking to him, he plans to share many more.

Stubbs began in the business in 1976 as sports editor of the News & Chronicle in Pointe-Claire and went on to work for eight years with Canada's Olympic teams as a media-relations specialist, based in Ottawa before returning to Montreal and The Gazette in 1988.

For two years he was sports editor of The Gazette, though never far from writing, his first love. He has covered 10 Olympic Games, served as the CanWest Olympic Bureau Chief at Games in Lillehammer, Atlanta and Nagano, and has been nominated for a National Newspaper Award for sports writing.

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I've read his bio already. I understand that being the world's first hybrid escort/beat writer is his M.O. but I'm still not happy with it.

If we had alternatives - fine. But he goes around reporting on the Habs with the least bit of care (Eller came into camp with 19lbs of muscle!) or none at all (his puff pieces). I get that he likes human interest stories but he shouldn't be the head beat writer if that's the case.

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Never liked Dreger. I think hes full of ****, he never give his honest opinion and when he has a scoop its basically someone calling him to push their agenda. Plus he has that huge Toronto bias that dont help TSN shake off their Toronto Sports Network moniker.
Dreger: "He could be traded or he could not be traded or he could be traded later on or they could just hang onto him... nobody really knows and the possibilities are endless. Some people say he's a good player, others think he's not so good. And there are some who thinks that he's good sometimes and not so much other times... In terms of him staying or going, he might stay or he might go. And that's the way I see it.

For TSN, I'm Darren Dreger."

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