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2013-14 Training Camp



GDT: SABRES 2013-14 TRAINING CAMP SEP 11-30 WEB: SABRES.COM RADIO: WGR-AM CHAT

Training Camp Preview


Baker Coller Davis Duff Hamilton Harrington Hoppe Oklobzija Ryndak Snow Vogl Wawrow

Training Camp Schedule

Date
Start-End
Training Camp Event
Result
Recaps
Highlights
9/11
n/a
Physicals & Off-Ice Testing
n/a
n/a
9/12
08:45am-10:45am
Practice Session: Blue + Gray
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/12
11:15am-12:00pm
Scrimmage: Gold vs Gray
9/12
12:15pm-01:00pm
Practice Session: Gold
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/13
07:45am-08:45am
Practice Session: Gray
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/13
09:15am-10:30am
Scrimmage: Blue vs Gold
3-2 Gold
9/14
08:45am-10:45am
Practice Session: Gold + Blue
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/14
11:15am-12:00pm
Scrimmage: Blue vs Gray
2-1 Gray
n/a
9/14
12:15pm-01:00pm
Practice Session: Gray
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/15
10:30am-11:00am
Morning Skate at FNC
n/a
n/a
9/15
07:30pm-10:00pm
9/16
10:30am-11:15am
Practice Session: 1
n/a
n/a
9/16
12:45pm-01:30pm
Practice Session: 2
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/17
10:30am-11:00am
Morning Skate at FNC
n/a
n/a
9/17
07:00pm-09:30pm
9/18
n/a
Off Day
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/19
10:30am-11:00am
Morning Skate at FNC
n/a
n/a
9/19
07:00pm-09:30pm
9/20
10:30am-11:15am
Practice Session: 1
n/a
n/a
9/20
12:45pm-01:30pm
Practice Session: 2
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/21
10:30am-11:00am
Morning Skate at FNC
n/a
n/a
9/21
07:00pm-09:30pm
9/22
10:30am-11:00am
Morning Skate at FNC
n/a
Ryndak
n/a
9/22
07:00pm-09:30pm
Ryndak, Duff
9/23
11:45am-12:45pm
Practice Session: 1
n/a
n/a
9/24
n/a
Off Day
n/a
n/a
n/a
9/25
10:00am-11:00am
Morning Skate at FNC
n/a
n/a
9/25
07:00pm-09:30pm
9/26
10:30am-11:30am
Practice Session: 1
n/a
n/a
9/27
11:30am-12:30pm
Morning Skate at PNC Arena
n/a
n/a
9/27
07:00pm-09:30pm
1st, 2nd, 3rd
9/28
11:15am-12:15pm
Practice Session: 1
n/a
Ryndak
n/a


OFFICIAL 2013-14 TRAINING CAMP ROSTER

Hockey Staff


Pos.
Staffer
Interviews
PRES
Black, Ted
,
GM
Regier, Darcy
AGM
Devine, Kevin
,
HC
Rolston, Ron
AC
Sacco, Joe
,
AC
Numminen, Teppo
,
AC
Forton, Jerry
,

Current Roster (Full Roster)

No.
Pos.
Player Name
Camp Status
Interviews
72
LC
Adam, Luke
,
,
33
RW
Armia, Joel
9/25: Broken hand, out indefinitely
10
LD
Ehrhoff, Christian
,
,
63
LC
Ennis, Tyler
,
,
01
G
Enroth, Jhonas
,
,
65
RC
Flynn, Brian
,
,
82
LW
Foligno, Marcus
9/22: UBI (day-to-day)
,
28
LC
Girgensons, Zemgus
,
25
LC
Grigorenko, Mikhail
,
19
RC
Hodgson, Cody
36
RW
Kaleta, Patrick
9/21: Undisclosed injury (day-to-day)
,
22
LW
Larsson, Johan
,
23
LW
Leino, Ville
04
RD
McBain, Jamie
,
,
08
RC
McCormick, Cody
,
,
30
G
Miller, Ryan
9/14: Returned after excused absence
57
RD
Myers, Tyler
09
LC
Ott, Steve
,
12
LC
Porter, Kevin
,
,
03
RD
Pysyk, Mark
,
,
55
RD
Ristolainen, Rasmus
,
,
32
LW
Scott, John
,
21
RW
Stafford, Drew
,
,
52
LD
Sulzer, Alexander
,
,
20
LD
Tallinder, Henrik
,
78
RW
Tropp, Corey
9/21: Broken jaw, out 5-6 weeks
,
26
LW
Vanek, Thomas
,
06
LD
Weber, Mike
,
61
LD
Zadorov, Nikita
,
,

Reassigned Invites

No.
Pos.
Player Name
Camp Status
Interviews
67
LD
Austin, Brady
n/a
24
LD
Bagnall, Drew
n/a
15
RW
Bailey, Justin
n/a
73
RW
Baptiste, Nicholas
n/a
42
LD
Boland, Connor
n/a
43
LC
Catenacci, Daniel
n/a
62
LD
Crawford, Nick
n/a
37
LW
Ellis, Matt
n/a
34
RD
Gauthier-Leduc, Jerome
n/a
70
LW
Gillies, Colton
n/a
31
G
Hackett, Matt
n/a
75
RC
Jacobs, Colin
n/a
41
LC
Kea, Justin
n/a
49
G
Knapp, Connor
n/a
51
LD
Lepkowski, Alex
n/a
50
G
Lieuwen, Nathan
n/a
79
LC
Locke, Eric
n/a
47
RD
MacKenzie, Matt
n/a
35
G
Makarov, Andrey
n/a
##
RW
McGuire, Johnny
n/a
44
LD
McNabb, Brayden
45
RC
Nelson, Logan
n/a
48
RW
Parker, Jonathan
n/a
58
LW
Roy, Frederick
n/a
05
RD
Ruhwedel, Chad
n/a
59
LC
Schaller, Tim
n/a
13
LC
Sundher, Kevin
n/a
38
RW
Szydlowski, Shawn
n/a
68
RW
Tardif, Jamie
n/a
54
LW
Trainor, Peter
n/a
84
LC
Varone, Phil
n/a
17
RC
Zigomanis, Mike
n/a


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How does McNabb not get an invite?

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How does McNabb not get an invite?
Don't worry. That roster is not complete.

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How does McNabb not get an invite?
he's going to be involved in the Vanek trade before camp starts.

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Tallinder not in 10 will be odd.

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Tallinder not in 10 will be odd.
I said the same thing to myself as I typed up the OP.

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I wonder if there is a chance of Foligno starting in Rochester. The left side has a lot of folks in the mix; Vanek, Ennis, Ott, Leino, Foligno, Larsson, Girgs, Adam, McCormick, Scott and Ellis. Center is pretty full as well: Hodgson, Ennis, Grigs, Larsson, Porter, McCormick and Ellis.

I'm not saying it will happen or that its even likely. But he may have a hell of a battle on his hands to stay up.

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I wonder if there is a chance of Foligno starting in Rochester.

I'm not saying it will happen or that its even likely. But he may have a hell of a battle on his hands to stay up.
This crossed my mind too, because he is exempt from waivers and can easily go down. I agree with you that is not likely.

It certainly should be an option if he doesn't win the spot in training camp, but generally it seems that incumbents are given the benefit of the doubt.

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This crossed my mind too, because he is exempt from waivers and can easily go down. I agree with you that is not likely.

It certainly should be an option if he doesn't win the spot in training camp, but generally it seems that incumbents are given the benefit of the doubt.
Couple of points on that

1. That was certainly something Ruff did but with Rolston I'm not sure that will be the case.

2. Foligno really hasn't played enough in the NHL to be considered an incumbent IMO.



The perfection situation is his play leaves no doubt that he belongs in the NHL. Its nice to have the depth to put some heat on the younger guys.

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Couple of points on that

1. That was certainly something Ruff did but with Rolston I'm not sure that will be the case.

2. Foligno really hasn't played enough in the NHL to be considered an incumbent IMO.



The perfection situation is his play leaves no doubt that he belongs in the NHL. Its nice to have the depth to put some heat on the younger guys.
All good points; I'm betting that Foligno considers himself an NHL'er at this point.


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I wonder if there is a chance of Foligno starting in Rochester. The left side has a lot of folks in the mix; Vanek, Ennis, Ott, Leino, Foligno, Larsson, Girgs, Adam, McCormick, Scott and Ellis. Center is pretty full as well: Hodgson, Ennis, Grigs, Larsson, Porter, McCormick and Ellis.

I'm not saying it will happen or that its even likely. But he may have a hell of a battle on his hands to stay up.
Well, Foligno ended the year centering the fourth line between Scott and Stafford, no? Meanwhile, Tropp ended 2011-12 at RW on a line with Vanek and Hodgson and then started 2012-13 at RW on a top Rochester line with Adam and Hodgson. I'd say it's certainly possible Foligno could get sent down if he doesn't bring it consistently in camp, especially since he's still on an ELC, and also because of the emergence of Flynn, the potential returns of Leino and Tropp, and the camp unpredictability of Armia, Girgensons and Larsson.

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Well, Foligno ended the year centering the fourth line between Scott and Stafford, no? Meanwhile, Tropp ended 2011-12 at RW on a line with Vanek and Hodgson and then started 2012-13 at RW on a top Rochester line with Adam and Hodgson. I'd say it's certainly possible Foligno could get sent down if he doesn't bring it consistently in camp, especially since he's still on an ELC, and also because of the emergence of Flynn, the potential returns of Leino and Tropp, and the camp unpredictability of Armia, Girgensons and Larsson.
Tropp started in Rochester because of the lockout though. Using him as an example doesn't quite work.

Sending Foligno down wasn't an option I had ever considered (mostly because I figured he had too many GP for the waiver exemption, but I guess not). It should certainly be an option--he's got to prove he belongs, just like everyone else on the team.

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I agree. Foligno, just like anyone else on the team should earn a spot. If a rookie out works him, the rookie should get the spot.

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I wonder if there is a chance of Foligno starting in Rochester. The left side has a lot of folks in the mix; Vanek, Ennis, Ott, Leino, Foligno, Larsson, Girgs, Adam, McCormick, Scott and Ellis. Center is pretty full as well: Hodgson, Ennis, Grigs, Larsson, Porter, McCormick and Ellis.

I'm not saying it will happen or that its even likely. But he may have a hell of a battle on his hands to stay up.
IMO the chance Foligno starts in Rochester is extremely low, less than 5%.

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Tropp started in Rochester because of the lockout though. Using him as an example doesn't quite work.

Sending Foligno down wasn't an option I had ever considered (mostly because I figured he had too many GP for the waiver exemption, but I guess not). It should certainly be an option--he's got to prove he belongs, just like everyone else on the team.
Maybe I should've included a break, as I meant that to read as a reminder of where in the lineup Foligno and Tropp were last contributing. Tropp also had the knee injury after just one game, so I reached a little further for his 11-12 linemates. My intent was not to indicate a precedent of "NHL-to-AHL demotion over a summer".

Anyway, with everyone healthy, I can't see Foligno in the top-9 unless the fizzling FES is given another shot. That leaves his options as: LW4, C4, scratch or Rochester; and I think it's safe to say no one sees much value in scratching him for any signifcant stretch, so if someone else scraps their way into the lineup via camp, I think Rochester is an option. However, I still think it's more than likely he'll start as LW4, but an acquisition or emergence can quickly change that is all I was really getting at, as his form wasn't the greatest last year.

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I've had Foligno penciled in my mind as 4th line LW. There's the potential for lots of versatility with so many players in the mix, and he could be good/consistent enough to move up, or get scratched for Scott. Foligno-Larsson-Kaleta could be a real headache to play against, and maybe my favorite shift to watch if it happens.

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I expect one of Larsson/Girgensons to make the team out of camp.

The defense should be...interesting...this year.

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I expect one of Larsson/Girgensons to make the team out of camp.

The defense should be...interesting...this year.
Still don't see it. There's just not room. I expect Hodgson to sign by opening night.

Vanek, Leino, Stafford, Ott, Ennis, Grigorenko, Kalets, Foligno, Scott, Flynn, Porter, Hodgson and McCormick.

That's 13 and they're not going to keep 14. McCormick is the question mark, but just going on Regier's comments, doesn't sound like he'll get waived.

But I do expect there to be plenty of opportunity for those guys to step up throughout the year. Competition in Rochester will be fun to watch this year.

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Still don't see it. There's just not room. I expect Hodgson to sign by opening night.

Vanek, Leino, Stafford, Ott, Ennis, Grigorenko, Kalets, Foligno, Scott, Flynn, Porter, Hodgson and McCormick.

That's 13 and they're not going to keep 14. McCormick is the question mark, but just going on Regier's comments, doesn't sound like he'll get waived.

But I do expect there to be plenty of opportunity for those guys to step up throughout the year. Competition in Rochester will be fun to watch this year.
I don't see McCormick making the team. Not sure why they would keep him around just not enough skill. Pretty sure him getting sent down and clearing waivers towards the end of last year was the end for him in a Buffalo uniform. He is fine to have as a leader in Rochester, I just don't see him as an NHL player.

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I don't see McCormick making the team. Not sure why they would keep him around just not enough skill. Pretty sure him getting sent down and clearing waivers towards the end of last year was the end for him in a Buffalo uniform. He is fine to have as a leader in Rochester, I just don't see him as an NHL player.
That's what I think too, but I was just basing my comments off of what Regier said earlier this summer. He thinks McCormick will get claimed, I don't. So I could see him in Rochester. Even so, I would expect Tropp to be the guy to make the team in that case, not Larsson or Girgensons.

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Still don't see it. There's just not room. I expect Hodgson to sign by opening night.

Vanek, Leino, Stafford, Ott, Ennis, Grigorenko, Kalets, Foligno, Scott, Flynn, Porter, Hodgson and McCormick.

That's 13 and they're not going to keep 14. McCormick is the question mark, but just going on Regier's comments, doesn't sound like he'll get waived.

But I do expect there to be plenty of opportunity for those guys to step up throughout the year. Competition in Rochester will be fun to watch this year.
IMO those three are questionable to be on the roster to start the season. I could see Girgensons and/or Larsson nabbing a roster spot.

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Sometimes I wish we'd ship out Vanek & Stafford just to get room to play our prospects.....

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IMO those three are questionable to be on the roster to start the season. I could see Girgensons and/or Larsson nabbing a roster spot.
Rolston loves Porter. They won't waive him. Flynn can get freely sent down and Tropp can't, so you could maybe swap those 2.

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I think Grigorenko being gifted a spot is what has bothered me the most all off season.

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I think McCormick makes the opening day roster on Porters' wing with Flynn/Scott on the other side. If he doesn't he will be traded..

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