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07-26-2013, 05:03 PM
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2013 Habs Board Prospect Rankings Final Results

1. Jarred Tinordi, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs. (47.49% of the vote)
2. Nathan Beaulieu, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs. (84.55% of the vote).
3. Zachary Fucale, Goaltender, Halifax Mooseheads. (43.14% of the vote).
4. Sebastien Collberg, Left Wing/Right Wing, Frolunda (70.86% of the vote).
5. Mike McCarron, Right Wing, London Knights (65.89% of the vote).
6. Charles Hudon, Left Wing, Chicoutimi Sangueneens (33.16% of the vote).
7. Jacob De La Rose, Center/Left Wing/Right Wing, Leksands (34.87% of the vote).
8. Louis Leblanc, Right Wing/Center, Hamilton Bulldogs (33.85% of the vote).
9. Christian Thomas, Right Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs (24.88% of the vote).
10. Darren Dietz, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (33.33% of the vote).
11. Artturi Lehkonen, Left Wing/Right Wing, Kalpa (50.62% of the vote).
12. Magnus Nygren, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (39.13% of the vote).
13. Mac Bennett, Defenseman, Michigan Wolverines (31.37% of the vote).
14. Tim Bozon, Left Wing, Kamloops Blazers (46.32% of the vote).
15. Michael Bournival, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs (31.47% of the vote).
16. Sven Andrighetto, Right Wing/Left Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs (31.46% of the vote).
17. Greg Pateryn, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (26.14% of the vote).
18. Morgan Ellis, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (28.04% of the vote).
19. Dalton Thrower, Defensman, Vancouver Giants (37.70% of the vote).
20. Gabriel Dumont, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs (37.50% of the vote).
21. Brady Vail, Center, Windsor Spitfires.
22. Patrick Holland, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs.
23. Erik Nystrom, Left Wing/Right Wing, Karlskrona.
24. Connor Crisp, Left Wing/Center, Eerie Otters.
25. Mark MacMillan, Right Wing/Center, North Dakota.
26. Martin Reway, Left Wing/Center, Gatineau Olympiques.
27. Dustin Tokarski, Goaltender, Hamilton Bulldogs.
28. Joonas Nattinen, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs.
29. Josiah Didier, Defenseman, Denver.
30. Jeremy Gregoire, Center, Baie-Comeau Drakkar.
31. Stefan Fournier, Right Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs.
32. Steve Quailer, Left Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs.
33. Mike Condon, Goaltender, Hamilton Bulldogs.
34. Colin Sullivan, Defenseman, Boston College.
35. Robert Mayer, Goaltender, Hamilton Bulldogs.
36. Peter Delmas, Goaltender, Wheeling Nailers.
37. Maxim Trunev, Right Wing, Lokomotiv.
38. Mike Cichy, Center, Western Michigan.

Feel free to discuss or post your own version of the list.

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I can't believe Crisp is rated so high. Ridiculous.

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I can't believe Crisp is rated so high. Ridiculous.
24th is high?

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24th is high?
Honestly. Maybe didier ahead of him but thats it

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Honestly. Maybe didier ahead of him but thats it
Ya exactly. Maybe MacMillian also but apart from that, 24th is a good spot for him

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Mark Macmillan was ranked way too low IMO

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This is an impressive list...
Best list of ours in awhile.

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1. Jarred Tinordi, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs. (47.49% of the vote)
2. Nathan Beaulieu, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs. (84.55% of the vote).
3. Zachary Fucale, Goaltender, Halifax Mooseheads. (43.14% of the vote).
4. Sebastien Collberg, Left Wing/Right Wing, Frolunda (70.86% of the vote).
5. Mike McCarron, Right Wing, London Knights (65.89% of the vote).
6. Charles Hudon, Left Wing, Chicoutimi Sangueneens (33.16% of the vote).
7. Jacob De La Rose, Center/Left Wing/Right Wing, Leksands (34.87% of the vote).
8. Louis Leblanc, Right Wing/Center, Hamilton Bulldogs (33.85% of the vote).
9. Christian Thomas, Right Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs (24.88% of the vote).
10. Darren Dietz, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (33.33% of the vote).
11. Artturi Lehkonen, Left Wing/Right Wing, Kalpa (50.62% of the vote).
12. Magnus Nygren, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (39.13% of the vote).
13. Mac Bennett, Defenseman, Michigan Wolverines (31.37% of the vote).
14. Tim Bozon, Left Wing, Kamloops Blazers (46.32% of the vote).
15. Michael Bournival, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs (31.47% of the vote).
16. Sven Andrighetto, Right Wing/Left Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs (31.46% of the vote).
17. Greg Pateryn, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (26.14% of the vote).
18. Morgan Ellis, Defenseman, Hamilton Bulldogs (28.04% of the vote).
19. Dalton Thrower, Defensman, Vancouver Giants (37.70% of the vote).
20. Gabriel Dumont, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs (37.50% of the vote).
21. Brady Vail, Center, Windsor Spitfires.
22. Patrick Holland, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs.
23. Erik Nystrom, Left Wing/Right Wing, Karlskrona.
24. Connor Crisp, Left Wing/Center, Eerie Otters.
25. Mark MacMillan, Right Wing/Center, North Dakota.
26. Martin Reway, Left Wing/Center, Gatineau Olympiques.
27. Dustin Tokarski, Goaltender, Hamilton Bulldogs.
28. Joonas Nattinen, Center, Hamilton Bulldogs.
29. Josiah Didier, Defenseman, Denver.
30. Jeremy Gregoire, Center, Baie-Comeau Drakkar.
31. Stefan Fournier, Right Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs.
32. Steve Quailer, Left Wing, Hamilton Bulldogs.
33. Mike Condon, Goaltender, Hamilton Bulldogs.
34. Colin Sullivan, Defenseman, Boston College.
35. Robert Mayer, Goaltender, Hamilton Bulldogs.
36. Peter Delmas, Goaltender, Wheeling Nailers.
37. Maxim Trunev, Right Wing, Lokomotiv.
38. Mike Cichy, Center, Western Michigan.

Feel free to discuss or post your own version of the list.
My top 30.

1. Nathan Beaulieu
2. Jarred Tinordi
3. Zachary Fucale
4. Sebastien Collberg
5. Mike McCarron
6. Charles Hudon
7. Jacob De La Rose
8. Arturri Lehkonen
9. Darren Dietz
10. Magnus Nygren
11. Christian Thomas
12. Mac Bennett
13. Louis Leblanc
14. Tim Bozon
15. Michael Bournival
16. Morgan Ellis
17. Sven Andrighetto
18. Brady Vail
19. Mark MacMillan
20. Greg Pateryn
21. Patrick Holland
22. Dalton Thrower
23. Connor Crisp
24. Gabriel Dumont
25. Erik Nystrom
26. Martin Reway
27. Josiah Didier
28. Dustin Tokarski
29. Jeremy Gregoire
30. Joonas Nattinen.

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I have a feeling that one year later, we will be look at this list and laughing at how low Didier is. Just a gut feeling.

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So why is everyone so down on Nattinen? Did he bust already?

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Fucale ahead of McCarron is mind-bogging. Fucale was drafted in the second round and McCarron was drafted 25th and they haven't played a single game since then. Moreover, most people voting have barely (if ever) seen McCarron play in a game.




I said last year McMillan was underrated... Well he still is.

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This is an impressive list...
Best list of ours in awhile.
The talent in the list is, indeed, impressive. The ordering of the list, however, notsomuch, imo. Can't wait to see people referring to these guys by where they ranked in this project.

"The Habs would be stupid to trade their 6th best prospect for Player X", etc.

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My top 30.

1. Nathan Beaulieu
2. Jarred Tinordi
3. Zachary Fucale
4. Sebastien Collberg
5. Mike McCarron
6. Charles Hudon
7. Jacob De La Rose
8. Arturri Lehkonen
9. Darren Dietz
10. Magnus Nygren
11. Christian Thomas
12. Mac Bennett
13. Louis Leblanc
14. Tim Bozon
15. Michael Bournival
16. Morgan Ellis
17. Sven Andrighetto
18. Brady Vail
19. Mark MacMillan
20. Greg Pateryn
21. Patrick Holland
22. Dalton Thrower
23. Connor Crisp
24. Gabriel Dumont
25. Erik Nystrom
26. Martin Reway
27. Josiah Didier
28. Dustin Tokarski
29. Jeremy Gregoire
30. Joonas Nattinen.
I haven't bothered thinking about this enough to put up my own list yet, but this looks a LOT closer to something I'd come up with in the end. I think Hudon and Thomas are still too high, and I might even flip Nygren and Dietz, as well as Didier and Thrower, and I'm not sure I'd have Bozon over Andrighetto, but otherwise very close. Maybe Dumont too low and Pateryn too high as well, but I wouldn't adamantly defend any of those assertions in the face of a good counter-argument. Actually, backing up for a moment, I'm not even sure I'd have Beaulieu at the top of the list, though he wouldn't be far from it if he wasn't.


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my top 15

1-Collberg
2-Tinordi
3-Beaulieu
4-McCarron
5-Fucale
6-Dietz
7-DLR
8-Nygren
9-Hudon
10-Leblanc
11-Lehkonen
12-Thomas
13-Bozon
14-Ellis
15-Bennett

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What I love about this list is the amount of talent and hard choices I had voting. Our franchise is in a great state.


I'm excited!

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Fucale ahead of McCarron is mind-bogging. Fucale was drafted in the second round and McCarron was drafted 25th and they haven't played a single game since then. Moreover, most people voting have barely (if ever) seen McCarron play in a game.




I said last year McMillan was underrated... Well he still is.
Fucale's potential is higher, he was also ranked higher up by the scouts before the draft.

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This is an impressive list...
Best list of ours in awhile.
Totally agree.

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Fucale ahead of McCarron is mind-bogging. Fucale was drafted in the second round and McCarron was drafted 25th and they haven't played a single game since then. Moreover, most people voting have barely (if ever) seen McCarron play in a game.




I said last year McMillan was underrated... Well he still is.
even Timmins said they had Fucale higher on their list but figured he would be there at 34 or 36 plus they wanted the big forward and new that Mccarron wouldn't be there at 34, they even thought about picking him with the 34 but decided they would wait until 36, so i think Timmins had Fucale higher than Mccaron on his list

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I think Lehkonen should be higher. Nathan Beleaiu should be #1 AINEFCFFS

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I think Lehkonen should be higher. Nathan Beleaiu should be #1 AINEFCFFS
Weren't you the one asking why Beaulieu was so highly regarded in your Myers proposal thread?

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Weren't you the one asking why Beaulieu was so highly regarded in your Myers proposal thread?
I didn't know too much about him but have done tonnes of research lately.

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even Timmins said they had Fucale higher on their list but figured he would be there at 34 or 36 plus they wanted the big forward and new that Mccarron wouldn't be there at 34, they even thought about picking him with the 34 but decided they would wait until 36, so i think Timmins had Fucale higher than Mccaron on his list
Huh...pretty certain you mean de la Rose. Timmins hinted pretty strongly on draft night that they picked DLR ahead of Fucale because they thought it was possible DLR could be Carolina's pick at 35 since they picked a fellow Swede in Lindholm in round 1 (obviously a moot point since BUF traded for that pick). That type of thinking can work when you have 2 picks in a 2-3 spot range. I refuse to believe they had Fucale ahead of McCarron on their list, but I definitely understand why people would have Fucale ahead of McCarron right now. It's the classic question of high upside with questions about whether it will be fulfilled versus a safe prospect with solid upside. McCarron can be one of the more unique forwards in the game if he puts it all together, but in the end you have to say it's a question mark in terms of what he'll be. He's just raw at this point. Fucale doesn't have elite/Vezina Trophy winning upside, but he clearly has good starting goalie upside and seems quite likely to get there. Very polished already.

And to add to the sentiment, I don't get how MM slipped to 25 on this list.

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So why is everyone so down on Nattinen? Did he bust already?
Hard to show what you're worth when you can't stay healthy.


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These would have been mine:
1. Tinordi
2. Beaulieu
3. Collberg
4. Fucale
5. Hudon
6. Thomas
7. McCarron
8. Leblanc
9. Dietz
10. Bozon
11. De La Rose
12. Lehkonen
13. Nygren
14. Bennett
15. Bournival
16. Andrighetto
17. Pateryn
18. Ellis
19. Holland
20. Vail
21. Thrower
22. Dumont
23. Tokarski
24. MacMillan
25. Nystrom
26. Reway
27. Crisp
28. Nattinen
29. Didier
30. Gregoire
31. Quailer
32. Fournier
33. Mayer
34. Condon
35. Sullivan
36. Delmas
37. Trunev
38. Cichy

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Why the love so high on Collberg and so low on Lehkonen?

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Seeing Mayer just in front of Delmas is pretty funny.

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Fucale's potential is higher
It is ? According to ?

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he was also ranked higher up by the scouts before the draft.
Which scouts ? Professionnal scouts ? I know a few who passed on Fucale.
Scouting agencies? Well it depends which one you look at. And their ranking means very little anyways. So I don't see it as an argument to rank him higher.

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Every team has their chosen player higher on their list than the actual rank where he was picked so I would not read too much into that.

I'm puzzled at how you presume Timmins knew McCarron wouldn't be there at 34 but he knew Fucale would still be there at 36... Only thing Trevor Timmins said in his interview is that he took a calculated risk because he knew that between 34 and 36 (Buffalo's rank), Fucale wouldn't get picked. Nowhere did he say that between the 25th and the 34th pick, he knew who was or wasn't going to be picked.

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Does any other team have our depth of likely NHLers? That list is pretty insane. Love the amount of skilled long shots.

Next year is going to be so much fun keeping track of all these guys.

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