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10-01-2013, 09:57 AM
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Season Opening Line Combos

Just curious what you guys think your opening night lines are going to look like. Looking forward to having Minnesota back in our division. Good luck this season.

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10-01-2013, 10:00 AM
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Just curious what you guys think your opening night lines are going to look like. Looking forward to having Minnesota back in our division. Good luck this season.
Parise - Koivu - Pominville
Nino - Coyle - Heatley
Cooke - Brodziak - Granlund
Mitchell - Konopka - Fontaine

Suter - Brodin
Scandella - Spurgeon
Ballard - Dumba
Stoner

Backstrom
Harding

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Muck nailed it.

I could see Granlund and Heatley being interchangeable.

Our 2nd pairing and 3rd pairing defenders could also swap, too. I don't have much faith in Scandella, who apparently needs to be paired with Spurgeon. From what we've heard, Ballard and Dumba have looked great, which makes me think they could essentially be our 2nd pairing.

Really wish we could have kept Dowell as our 4th line center. Konopka's lack of speed is going to absolutely kill that line.

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I do not follow Wilds' game, but isnt Coyle RW only?

And why is Zucker not making the team this year? Poor camp? 1st recall?

Thanks for the info !

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10-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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I do not follow Wilds' game, but isnt Coyle RW only?

And why is Zucker not making the team this year? Poor camp? 1st recall?

Thanks for the info !
He's 2C this season. At least at first. It's his natural position.

Granlund, Nino and Coyle were all better than Zucker, so he needs some time in Iowa. 1st call up.

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I do not follow Wilds' game, but isnt Coyle RW only?

And why is Zucker not making the team this year? Poor camp? 1st recall?

Thanks for the info !
Zucker needs to work on his defensive game and had to beat out Granlund, Nino or Fontaine. He didn't beat out Granlund or Nino leaving the 4th line spot open.

Fontaine is better defensively, and as he is a 25 year old rookie a lot closer to being at his peak. Its not really wasting him or hurting his development playing 4th line. He also required waivers to get to the AHL, which Zucker does not.

Zucker will be back as soon as there is a forward injury in the top 9.

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I do not follow Wilds' game, but isnt Coyle RW only?

And why is Zucker not making the team this year? Poor camp? 1st recall?

Thanks for the info !
Zucker's been covered, but regarding Coyle-

He played Center up until he got to college. There, he split between center and right wing until he left to play with St John in the QMJHL. As a Sea Dog, he mostly played RW with Huberdeau.

Once he went pro, he was tried at center in Houston(the old Minnesota AHL affiliate) but ultimately played RW. Once the Wild season started, he was placed into the lineup as an RW. He played a few(as in 2-3) games at center last year.

This year was a battle between Granlund and Coyle for the 2nd line center spot. While Granlund's ceiling is likely higher than Coyle's, Coyle is better at handling the rigor of the NHL right now. When/if Granlund takes over the 2nd line center spot down the road, Coyle would likely move back to RW.

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I just dont like Granlund on the third line. Top 6 or send to Houston, imo.

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I just dont like Granlund on the third line. Top 6 or send to Houston, imo.
Knowing Yeo, our lines are anything but written in stone. I'm guessing Granlund sees top-six time, and time on our 1st PP.

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I just dont like Granlund on the third line. Top 6 or send to Houston, imo.
I actually like it that he plays alongside Brodz and Cooke, for now. It's a safe line for him to transfer his game into NHL style.

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I just dont like Granlund on the third line. Top 6 or send to Houston, imo.
According to Yeo, the 3rd line could see more ice than the 2nd line...so, in a sense, he IS playing in the top 6.

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Muck nailed it.

I could see Granlund and Heatley being interchangeable.

Our 2nd pairing and 3rd pairing defenders could also swap, too. I don't have much faith in Scandella, who apparently needs to be paired with Spurgeon. From what we've heard, Ballard and Dumba have looked great, which makes me think they could essentially be our 2nd pairing.

Really wish we could have kept Dowell as our 4th line center. Konopka's lack of speed is going to absolutely kill that line.
No...Muck almost nailed it... Fontaine on the 4th line lw, Mitchell 4th line rw...Muck has them swapped.

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According to Yeo, the 3rd line could see more ice than the 2nd line...so, in a sense, he IS playing in the top 6.
Yeo...


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No...Muck almost nailed it... Fontaine on the 4th line lw, Mitchell 4th line rw...Muck has them swapped.
They are both right handed shots, correct? Do we know for sure that Fontaine will be on the LW? I would think they would put the veteran on the off wing before a rookie.

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They are both right handed shots, correct? Do we know for sure that Fontaine will be on the LW? I would think they would put the veteran on the off wing before a rookie.
He's been practicing there according to Russo, and even when he was on the second line in preseason he was on the lw there too.

So...yes, we do know for sure.

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Yeo...

It's almost an even split - something like 15/17 minutes.

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According to Yeo, the 3rd line could see more ice than the 2nd line...so, in a sense, he IS playing in the top 6.
Third lines generally do Mr. Yeo.

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I see zero problem with Granlund playing with a guy like Cooke to protect him and a guy like Brodziak who will will win board battles and protect the puck.

Throw out your old-fashion view of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd line. This ain't your dad's NHL.

(I mean, even the Russians are moving ever so slightly away from that).

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I agree, Granlund seems like a good fit to the 3rd line. Based on my limited viewings, Cooke seemed to have some offensive skills as well.

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I see zero problem with Granlund playing with a guy like Cooke to protect him and a guy like Brodziak who will will win board battles and protect the puck.

Throw out your old-fashion view of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd line. This ain't your dad's NHL.

(I mean, even the Russians are moving ever so slightly away from that).
He has GOT to shoot then though. And most likely won't be playing on the boards too much behind the net. Which I always thought was his "spot"

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Russo Info

PP 1: Parise, Koivu, Heatley, Pominville, Suter
PP 2: Granlund, Coyle, Niederreiter, Spurgeon, Dumba/Brodin

I like those units. It seems whenever there's a kid on the ice, they try to defer to the vets. A vet unit and a kid unit means they just kind of trust themselves.

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Looks good.

No Brodziak?


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The purpose of the third line is to defend against the top lines, try and create turnovers, transition the puck back up ice, etc. I just wonder if Granlund is the best guy for that. He struggled last year physically and moving the puck up ice. I understand he's stronger and quicker this year, but is this the best way to put him in a position to succeed? Is his skill set and eventual role for the team congruent with the third line wing role?

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Looks good.

No Brodziak?

Remember the reason for Brodziak being on the PP was because he was a right handed shot. Pominville slots in there very nicely now.

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The purpose of the third line is to defend against the top lines, try and create turnovers, transition the puck back up ice, etc. I just wonder if Granlund is the best guy for that. He struggled last year physically and moving the puck up ice. I understand he's stronger and quicker this year, but is this the best way to put him in a position to succeed? Is his skill set and eventual role for the team congruent with the third line wing role?
No, it's not. Mitchell would be the ideal choice there, but I understand that if they want Granlund and Nino in the lineup, that one of them has to. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he and Nino swap places after a couple games.

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