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07-13-2005, 02:07 PM
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I find it funny, everyone acts as though whatever team Crosby goes to, they're assured of winning a Stanley Cup

I'm sure Crosby is going to be sick, but I don't think he'll dominate right away, we'll see how he reacts when he starts facing some adversity for the first time in his career, I don't think he'll make more of an impact then let's say...Kovalchuck or Heatley had in their 1st year

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07-13-2005, 02:11 PM
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Like this one better

Draft Order:
1. Mtl ( 2.3%) 2. NYR ( 7.1%) 3. CBJ ( 5.1%) 4. Cgy ( 5.4%) 5. Det ( 2.9%) 6. Atl ( 5.9%) 7. Bos ( 3.1%) 8. Fla ( 9.7%) 9. Ott ( 3.6%)10. LAK ( 3.7%)11. Edm ( 3.8%)12. Van ( 4.0%)13. Stl ( 4.2%)14. Min ( 8.7%)15. Chi ( 9.5%)16. Tor ( 5.3%)17. Nsh ( 11.1%)18. Col ( 6.3%)19. Tam ( 6.7%)20. Ana ( 14.3%)21. Wsh ( 8.3%)22. NYI ( 9.1%)23. Pit ( 10.0%)24. Phi ( 11.1%)25. Phx ( 25.0%)26. SJS ( 16.7%)27. Buf ( 40.0%)28. Dal ( 33.3%)29. NJD ( 50.0%)30. Car (100.0%)

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07-13-2005, 02:21 PM
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Seems like sid will be a UFA at 25 years old (7 year in the NHL)

We won't have to wait that long

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We're a lock.

#87, right? No problem.

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07-13-2005, 02:22 PM
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Seems like sid will be a UFA at 25 years old (7 year in the NHL)

We won't have to wait that long
He'll definately be looking for the max salary, He will want to make money and we probably wouldn't want to dish it out, maybe. I would love to see him with the CH.

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07-13-2005, 02:23 PM
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If not the Habs, I hope Crosby goes to a crappy non-hockey city, preferebly one out of conference, like Anaheim. Then, when he becomes an UFA, he won't have built up any loyalty to that town and will head to where he's always wanted to go: Montreal.

(Gotta think long term, people)

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07-13-2005, 03:17 PM
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I find it funny, everyone acts as though whatever team Crosby goes to, they're assured of winning a Stanley Cup

I'm sure Crosby is going to be sick, but I don't think he'll dominate right away, we'll see how he reacts when he starts facing some adversity for the first time in his career, I don't think he'll make more of an impact then let's say...Kovalchuck or Heatley had in their 1st year
Well, nothing is ever really a guarantee but I guess a lot of people are pretty sure that any team that lands a high calibre player like Crosby is more than likely to land a Stanley Cup if he stays long enough for them to build around him.

Looking back at past drafts and highly publicized offensive minded picks, I wouldn't doubt anyone who had told me these players would win a Stanley Cup during their career: Mario Lemieux, Mike Modano, Owen Nolan, Eric Lindros (sure he didn't win one but I'm pretty sure that if injuries hadn't played an effect on his career, he probably would have), Joe Thornton, or Vincent Lecavalier.

The only ones from that bunch who haven't won a Cup with the team that drafted them is Lindros (injuries) and Thornton (probably has one on the way in the next few years).

I think that the only name I omitted from the draft list who was a highly publicized player is Alexandre Daigle but it's widely known he turned out to be a bust and is more of an exception than the norm.

So, sure, you can say that it's too early to tell if Crosby will win a Stanley Cup but going on history, it's not like we're contradicting the trend and so it's not that far-fetched to think that he eventually will lead his team to one.

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07-13-2005, 04:11 PM
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I will say an extra prayer in the Synagogue today that we should land Crosby, and I hope all my good muslim friends on their carpets, and my good Christian friends go to their churches and ask G-d (or whoever) to .

From what I hear, mcphee (who is a great right-handed person) will be putting the sacred pretzel back on the HOLY GRILL and spice it up with some salt.

If we don't land Crosby, then I hope we trade up to get him (you know, giving away like 1 first round pick.... and.... um... Michaud).

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07-13-2005, 04:14 PM
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Anywhere but the bloody bruins or laughable leafs and I won't be too disappointed.

If by some miracle of lottery numbers we end up getting him , well ... ~cue my dancing bananas~

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07-13-2005, 04:27 PM
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let's face it....neither of us are gonna get him... probably wind up in the desert with the Dogs

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1/49 is far from impossible odds. The chances of Monreal coming back to defeat the Bruins, who led a playoff series the way they did..is far less. Any HAB fan should know that we pull off the impossible.

How many cups?

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1/49 is far from impossible odds. The chances of Monreal coming back to defeat the Bruins, who led a playoff series the way they did..is far less. Any HAB fan should know that we pull off the impossible.

How many cups?
yah, but in a lottery, you have no control over anything...it's just chance

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07-13-2005, 04:52 PM
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The chances are not the biggest but I still hope we get that first overall pick.

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07-13-2005, 09:13 PM
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so will the team that gets the #1 pick will get the first pick of every round or will it get reversed in the 2nd round so that the team who picks first in the 1st rd picks last in the 2nd?

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so will the team that gets the #1 pick will get the first pick of every round or will it get reversed in the 2nd round so that the team who picks first in the 1st rd picks last in the 2nd?
The team that gets the 1# pick gets the 60th overall while the the team that gets the 30th overall pick will get the 31th one and so on.

It's gonna be a snake draft.

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The habs will only have one ball.....so its not looking good

So does 16 other teams

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Here's what I got from the online draft simulator.. probably the worst case scenario for us, and the worse thing is: it could happen

1. Tor ( 2.0%)
2. Ana ( 4.2%)
3. Chi ( 4.3%)
4. SJS ( 2.3%)
5. NYR ( 7.0%)
6. Phx ( 5.0%)
7. Min ( 5.3%)
8. Buf ( 8.3%)
9. Car ( 6.1%)
10. Edm ( 6.5%)
11. CBJ ( 6.9%)
12. Fla ( 11.1%)
13. Stl ( 4.2%)
14. Pit ( 8.7%)
15. Phi ( 4.8%)
16. Col ( 5.0%)
17. Det ( 5.3%)
18. LAK ( 11.1%)
19. Cgy ( 12.5%)
20. NYI ( 7.1%)
21. Van ( 7.7%)
22. Tam ( 8.3%)
23. Dal ( 9.1%)
24. Wsh ( 10.0%)
25. Atl ( 33.3%)
26. Nsh ( 33.3%)
27. NJD ( 25.0%)
28. Mtl ( 33.3%)
29. Bos ( 50.0%)
30. Ott (100.0%)



ARGHH!!!

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07-13-2005, 10:30 PM
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Bob Gainey will be making the pitch of his life to get Crosby. Don't you worry.

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07-13-2005, 10:34 PM
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Are you talking about trading for the lucky ball if we don't get it?

Problem with that is, Crosby is hyped as the Next One. And he'll be cheap for five years. In a Salary Cap world, you can't do much in term of package deals, unless you trade away picks and the rights to unsigned prospects and RFAs. And money.

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If not the Habs, I hope Crosby goes to a crappy non-hockey city, preferebly one out of conference, like Anaheim. Then, when he becomes an UFA, he won't have built up any loyalty to that town and will head to where he's always wanted to go: Montreal.

(Gotta think long term, people)
You sound like a Leaf fan.

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Are you talking about trading for the lucky ball if we don't get it?

Problem with that is, Crosby is hyped as the Next One. And he'll be cheap for five years. In a Salary Cap world, you can't do much in term of package deals, unless you trade away picks and the rights to unsigned prospects and RFAs. And money.
Yes, I mean trading for the lucky ball. Bob Gainey knows that he has a true Canadiens on the end of the line. Watch him go a looooong way to try and get him. Everybody knows in the league that he wants to play in Montreal.

Everybody will be on the table. And I mean everybody. With such open free agency, Bob can replace anybody on the team.

Bob is not stupid. It's the first franchise player to ever express his profound desire to play in Montreal since Guy Lafleur. What would you do? Stay pat?

This is not Reggie Foule. This is Bob freaking Gainey, the guy who traded one of our most hot prospects in Balej for a 2 month rental. What would he trade for a franchise player? Heck, he'd trade Theo's girlfriend if needed.

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Was it Houle or A. Savard that almost pulled out trading for Kovalchuk?

Anyway, Crosby is seen as being better than Kovalchuk. It will take THE FARM. And like I was saying, you can't do BIG package deals in a capped world because the other team would go over the cap.

For arguments' sake, would you trade the rights to all of the Habs' current RFAs, plus the rights to Perezhogin and/or Kastitsyn, plus your first rounder, plus another pick and or cash, for Crosby; Package For One?

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Was it Houle or A. Savard that almost pulled out trading for Kovalchuk?

Anyway, Crosby is seen as being better than Kovalchuk. It will take THE FARM. And like I was saying, you can't do BIG package deals in a capped world because the other team would go over the cap.

For arguments' sake, would you trade the rights to all of the Habs' current RFAs, plus the rights to Perezhogin and/or Kastitsyn, plus your first rounder, plus another pick and or cash, for Crosby; Package For One?
You can't trade 20 players or so for one player, I reckon. But a solid package including some great vets (our best, I could care less) and some prospects who make lousy money, plus some draft choices, including our first rounder this year...yep.

Tell me: who would get the best player of the deal?

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Was it Houle or A. Savard that almost pulled out trading for Kovalchuk?

Anyway, Crosby is seen as being better than Kovalchuk. It will take THE FARM. And like I was saying, you can't do BIG package deals in a capped world because the other team would go over the cap.

For arguments' sake, would you trade the rights to all of the Habs' current RFAs, plus the rights to Perezhogin and/or Kastitsyn, plus your first rounder, plus another pick and or cash, for Crosby; Package For One?

Perezhogin and the other I don't even consider 1st line star material. There are dozens of prospects in the league like them. We're not talking about Carter here, or Malkin, or Ovetchkin.

As for our great farm club, who's really untouchable?

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None of them really, but they are real good players who will play in the league.

If you take a look at the whole team, I think Theodore is untouchable, I think Ryder is untouchable, maybe Komisarek, If it were just for me, aside than that, they're all expendable.

Sure Saku is the star and the captain, but with Crosby he really wouldn't be either now wouldn't he?

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