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10-03-2013, 08:40 PM
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Plus-Minus Thread | Opener edition | Penguins 3, Devils 0

+ Fleury. Baby steps. I'll take it.

+ Kobasew and his style make me feel a lot better about the third line going forward. Think he's a much better fit than D'Agostini.

+ Outside of one bad turnover, Bennett showed why he's going to be an asset playing on either the second or the third line. I really have no problem with him being an engine for the third line (when Neal is healthy) with the grit he's shown in his game.


- Glass, taking a dumb penalty when he's trusted with minutes late in the game. Lucky it was a three-goal game at that point. Bylsma also yelled at him to "stop the ****ing yapping" during that timeout after the lousy icing call because he was still talking to the refs when they were trying to diagram a play.

- Hybrid icing in general. Not a fan.

- Haven't heard if it's the same injury for Neal yet or a new one, but it's easy to second-guess why he was playing at all tonight if it was in doubt.

Hack away, boys.

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Hate to say it, but Glass was a positive.

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Bennett was really feeling it at the end of the 2nd period and was promptly given less ice time.

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+ MAF - Playoffs are all that matters for him and us, but it's still great to see a big win to start off the season. I'm definitely rooting for him to have a great year and playoffs, because if not this is definitely his last one here. Go Flower.

+ Glass - Guy had a good game, credit where it's due.

+ Bennett - Beast, everywhere.

+ The D - Everyone was good out there. We missed Letang's skillset back there but they locked it down for most of the game. I forgot how solid Scuderi was too.

- Kunitz - Looked like he could have used another preseason game... or ten.

- Put me on the 'against hybrid icing' team too. It's dumb and that icing on Glass was dumb.

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+ Fleury
+ Glass didn't suck
+ Beaunerville
+ Maatta (for the most part)

- Bob Errey has found a new object for his Freudian man-lust (Maatta), bringing back talk of long reaches and big sticks. It's almost enough to make me hope Oli gets sent back to London in a few games.

- Steigerwald... you two ass-clowns need to decide if you're hockey announcers or PR (wo)men. Or MAF's *****.

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+ MAF solid game great penalty shot save. Behind the back save will be an awesome gif
+ Hate to say it Tanner Glass. solid game. Physical. actually showed some speed. Dumb penalty at end.
+ Orpik physical presence nice hits on Jagr and Elias

- Malkin awful giveaway. Floated too much. Got knocked off puckDoesn't hustle every game like the other $8 million dollar man.

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+Flower's behind the back save and shut out
+Kobachoo scoring

-Neal getting hurt

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-- to everyone but MAF and Sid: any game in which we get outshot by offensively challenged team
but its only first game

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+ MAF solid game great penalty shot save. Behind the back save will be an awesome gif
+ Hate to say it Tanner Glass. solid game. Physical. actually showed some speed. Dumb penalty at end.
+ Orpik physical presence nice hits on Jagr and Elias

- Malkin awful giveaway. Floated too much. Got knocked off puckDoesn't hustle every game like the other $8 million dollar man.
oh boy here we go again

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Bennett was really feeling it at the end of the 2nd period and was promptly given less ice time.
3:29 in the third period.

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-- to everyone but MAF and Sid: any game in which we get outshot by offensively challenged team
but its only first game
If tonight is any indication at all, I think people are going to have to get used to shot totals like that. Looks like they're really going to collapse around the net defensively when they get a lead.

Not a coincidence that all three goals today came in transition on the counterattack.

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+ Maatta. Rookie mistakes aside, he looked solid
+ 3rd line
+ Jacques Martin


+/- Flower and Glass giving us (false) hope



- Beauner getting 12:46 of ice time




- Neal (re)injury

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- Malkin awful giveaway. Floated too much. Got knocked off puckDoesn't hustle every game like the other $8 million dollar man.

Those God damn lazy comm'nist Russians! It's an Olympic year, we should probably trade him.

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+ Hockey's back!

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+ Team Defense...and still scored 3
+ MAF...positioning
+ Bennett...kid can make plays
+ Bortuzzo...solid hits
+ Sutter...some fire in him for a change
+ Kobasew...nice start for him

+/- Kunitz...looked 1/2 step slow out there...time to worry?

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Fleury +50
Glass +
Bortuzzo +
Kobasew+
Martin+
Scuds+
Team win+++++++++++++++++++++++

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+ Flower
+ Malkin ... He can turn any winger into a 40 goal scorer
+ Tanner Glass for taking that penalty there at the end so HFBoards didn't completely melt down

Bizarro world tonight, eh? I think I even saw the team playing some defense. Nice start to the season

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+Overall defensive zone play
-Tried to force too much stuff at the offensive blue line. Against a more skilled/faster team that's just asking for trouble.
+Flower, not saying he had a world changing game but there's something about "how he was making saves"/"style" that inclines me to have hope that maybe just maybe he can return to his former ways.
-Das Kun/Duper looked slow and off time most of the night. They have a long enough track record of success that I'll give them a pass for now.

Aside from that I'll just generally agree with what everyone else already said.

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oh boy here we go again
What did you expect? Set up Neal, JJ, and Bennett for prime looks all night. Sets up a goal for Adams on which Glass gets the other assist (that he's now done that with those two and Gill/Scuds means there should be no HHOF waiting period . . . he should be in now ). Hawking the puck all night. Line juggled all night (maybe 3-4 shifts with Bennett AFTER Neal went down). So typical . . .

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James Neal (upper-body). #Pens didn't want to aggravate it in 1st game of season. Will be evaluated tomorrow, per coach Bylsma

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Matt Niskanen had 5 blocked shots
Rob Scuderi showed what we have been missing.
Maatta was very poised minus a couple hiccups. Smart player.
Bortuzzo looks like a different player. Solid.
I like Glass, Adams, Kobesew a lot
Jokinen was all over the place.

I really thought Kunitz and Duper were awful. Kunitz looked tired, weird in game 1?
Duper was making bad decisions.

Flower was a beast.

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Beau with the 2nd lowest ES mins after Jeffrey. If he isn't top 6, he should at least get top 9 minutes.

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+ Team Defense...and still scored 3
+ MAF...positioning
+ Bennett...kid can make plays
+ Bortuzzo...solid hits
+ Sutter...some fire in him for a change
+ Kobasew...nice start for him

+/- Kunitz...looked 1/2 step slow out there...time to worry?
Sid impressed me. Kunitz-Sid-Duper did not. Maybe a half dozen sweet shifts against a meh team (good structure, not great defensive personnel). Pretty much what one would expect from the best regular season line in hockey.

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- Dupuis and Kunitz. Those two are going to stress me out.
- Bennett's minutes.
- Niskanen's stupid moment.
- Injuries.

+ Fleury, but it's just one regular season game. Steiggy.
+ Maatta was damn impressive.
+ Bortuzzo.
+ Kobasew is fitting in well.
+ "Team toughness"
+ Crosby

Shooting Crosby or passing Crosby?

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We've come to expect it from him but I think Sid deserves a + for being a faceoff monster at 68%. Also looked sharp as ever. If only his wingers hadn't fumbled pretty much every attack he set them up for.

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