Dany Dube which I respect the most out of all the french analyst just said: Price played well, done some good things but he can do better and sometimes we would need him to be better on more occasions.
No sane person would dispute that. I'm pretty sure no one here is.
I can already chalk up the rest of your game logs for the year ...
Price W = D Good
Price L = D Bad
Budaj W = D Good
Budaj L = D Good
Didn't start the log, somebody else did. And I'll get consensus before putting it up. But yeah, the trend certainly is going that way isn't it?
As for last night, the Oilers just look... really bad. Which is a shame because there's so much talent over there. They looked even worse against Jersey the other night too until the 3rd period anyway. So there's one group of blueliners who's worse than us in every way.
I was at the game yesterday. Budaj played well enough to win, but he lost sight of the puck way too often and his rebound control was not very good. But, the Oilers are struggling enormously right now there isn't a worse team at the moment IMO.
The defence played a decent game yesterday, but they did have stretches where they struggled a bit. I felt they played much better than they did against the Flames, but a good part of it was because of the Oilers' awful forecheck - there was less pressure and it gave the habs defence a bit more time to get the transition going.
Lookin' forward to seeing Price in net against the Canucks.
This is just my personal opinion but I see Theodore v2 written all over Carey Price with the exception Price has a higher projected sealing.
and you always compare him to other top goalies in the league but you never bring numbers or facts to prove your points.
I compared Price, Quick and Rinne and both Rinne and Quick have better playoffs stats year after year, despite having "similar stats" in the season. This cant just be the poor performances of the team in front of Carey... Team was good enough to make the playoffs... they score the goals after all
I always compare Price to other top goalies because their numbers are actually comparable, and if you want proof you can look at it for yourself. Like you said, you saw the stats and noticed they were similar as well.
I never once mentioned playoff stats when I was comparing stats between top goalies. Price's statistics are lower than most, and some of you may think it's because he gets worse in the post-season, but I think most people would agree that's just untrue. I do agree that Price needs to be better in the playoffs. But again, I was never talking about his playoff statistics.
Frankly, I don't think there are any similarities between Theodore and Price and I find it very bizarre that you came to that conclusion at all... Seriously, what's your thinking?
Originally Posted by Genesis76
Oilers had amazing chances to score... Budaj had to step it up to keep us in the game. I don't know what your talking about.
Budaj was fantastic last night. I just find it funny that if Price had a performance like that, a lot of people would start complaining about consistency instead of praising him, like they do Budaj. Budaj is a top-notch backup, but I don't think we can even flirt with the idea of him being a starter over Price. He is outstanding in the role he plays.
Game 1: Price Good, D bad
Game 2: Price Good, D good
Game 3: Price Good, D bad
Game 4: Budaj Good, D good. (Though maybe I should just say Oilers were bad)
I kind of like this project. I guess the criteria for a "goalie bad" game will be that he was clearly responsible for goals he should have stopped - which I think is useful info.
It would be cool if another couple of boards did a similar exercise for comparison. The problem is, I wouldn't expect fans who don't worry at all about their goalies (Bruins, Kings, Preds, Sens, etc) to have any interest... but it would still be interesting to compare with Miller and Bishop, for example.
And ruin LG and Andy's little scrapbook project ? Being denied true knowledge about the relationship between our pathetic defense and Prices rightful claim as Supergoalie?
I don't know why you call it my scrapbook, it wasn't my idea to begin with. I made a comment on LGs gamelog so far because I disagree with it. I don't think Price had much to deal with against the Flyers.
Also, my guess is that you won't like it because it will go against your narrative that all of Price's problems lie exclusively with him even though I've presented countless evidence and data that makes that claim disputable.
Budaj was amazing last night. The one goal he let in was the D's fault. He had no chance.
I don't think the goal was anyone's fault, it was a fluke. Sure, the D wasn't placed properly on Hall's attempted pass, but that it went in was the result of luck more so than because of error. Budaj was solid. No matter the goalie, we always seem to get these ugly goals scored against us. I guess that's what happens when you allow the opponents to crash the net, bound to have the puck bounce off players.
Game 1: Price Pretty good SOG for 37, SOG against 38
Game 2: Price outstanding SOG for 34, SOG against 23
Game 3: Price pretty good SOG for 35, SOG against 25
Game 4: Budaj good. SOG for 27, SOG Against 28
I also want to disprove the silly notion that our d is terrible. So far there are 2 games where our offensive shots on goal was basically a wash, and the 2 other games where we outshot our opponents by 10 plus shots, if this continues, the habs d wil be near the top of the league imo. No d that gives up 25-28 SOG is terrible, no matter how often that drivel is posted on here.
Last edited by habsfanatics*: 10-11-2013 at 02:31 PM.