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09-28-2003, 06:44 AM
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EDM/CHI speculation (with a source)

I haven't seent eh link on-line yet, but in today's print edtion of the EDM Journal, they mention that if Comrie is moved it might be to CHI for Arnason, perhaps with the deal expanded (no speculation on other pieces)

What might be some trades that make sense for both clubs, with Arnason and Comrie involved, or does it seem unworkable to Hawks fans?

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09-28-2003, 06:53 AM
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Comrie's value, even a Comrie in a contract dispute, is higher than Arnason's.

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I haven't seent eh link on-line yet, but in today's print edtion of the EDM Journal, they mention that if Comrie is moved it might be to CHI for Arnason, perhaps with the deal expanded (no speculation on other pieces)

What might be some trades that make sense for both clubs, with Arnason and Comrie involved, or does it seem unworkable to Hawks fans?
link, speeds?

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09-28-2003, 07:30 AM
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link, speeds?
haven't seen one yet, but why would I lie about a source like this, when anyone who's from EDM could easily call me on it?

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If we are talking the Hawkes I would almost bet that he'd (Lowe) ask for Calder. Lowe loves the home grown boys, and Calder, from Manville(sp), which is an hour east of Edmonton, would be perfect for that. But I dont' think either of them are enough to get Comrie..... Maybe through in a second? Even then though I'm not that crazy about it.

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haven't seen one yet, but why would I lie about a source like this, when anyone who's from EDM could easily call me on it?
i'd like you to read the rules speeds...i don't mean to be prude but hey...

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i'd like you to read the rules speeds...i don't mean to be prude but hey...
Radio rumors can be verified by another poster, but newspapers require a hard link? That's stupid.

I'm holding the same newspaper in my hand, and it says
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If Lowe decides to trade Comrie, one possible destination is Chicago, for center Tyler Arnason. He was in the running for the NHL's rookie-of-the-year award last season. Another player could be tossed in the deal or the could make the deal bigger by adding a second Oilers player.

-compiled by Joanne Ireland, with files from Jim Matheson
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The reason why there's no link is because canada.com holds the articles from places like the Journal and the Calgary Herald. It's almost impossible to find the articles because the site is so inept - the articles are updated at about 7:00PM every night.

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Comrie,Rita/Moreau
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Arnason,McCarthy,4th.

I replied a couple of weeks ago on about a 48th no. or so, but no response.
Pretty close to fair with CHI getting a slight discount only for the fact of the economical situation.

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Comrie,Rita/Moreau
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Arnason,McCarthy,4th.

I replied a couple of weeks ago on about a 48th no. or so, but no response.
Pretty close to fair with CHI getting a slight discount only for the fact of the economical situation.
I like that one, probably send Rita instead of Moreau since he just signed an extension today

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Comrie,Rita/Moreau
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Arnason,McCarthy,4th.

I replied a couple of weeks ago on about a 48th no. or so, but no response.
Pretty close to fair with CHI getting a slight discount only for the fact of the economical situation.
Ugh. I'd hope Edmonton would look somewhere else before they pulled this one off. That one doesn't impress me at all.

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Ugh. I'd hope Edmonton would look somewhere else before they pulled this one off. That one doesn't impress me at all.
Agreed, I am not a huge Arnason fan. The only young guy I would take for Comrie from the Hawks is Ruuto and he will NOT be offered

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Or Comrie for their 1st pick next year... I would do that

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Comrie,Rita/Moreau
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Arnason,McCarthy,4th.
NO WAY!
Comrie>Arnason

Moreau or Rita = McCarthy

McCarthy isn't an upgrade on Bergeron.

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McCarthy isn't an upgrade on Bergeron.

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I think an Arnason/McCarthy deal for Comrie + is fair. Arnason is certainly more of a MacT player (two way defensive forward who'll score 20 once in awhile his career---that's the poster boy for a MacT player) and a guy like McCarthy is just what the doctor ordered.

Comrie HAS scored 30, he's not an established 30 goal scorer (yet). There's a difference.

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NO WAY!
Comrie>Arnason

Moreau or Rita = McCarthy

McCarthy isn't an upgrade on Bergeron.
I will agree with u on the first two but McCarthy is an upgrade on Bergeron. I like the deal because it services our needs but would not do it as Lowe its just something u would like to leave on the table and comeback to later if u can't find a better deal(which I am sure there are a few).I think as Lowe I would ask for a second pick opposed to the 4th and I would call it very doable.I think everyone is underrating Arnason this guy was competing for the Calder in a year where more than a few young rookies broke out, Chicago had 207GF and 226GA and for a rookie to come out with plus 7 and 40pts is saying something about this kid hes also built pretty solid 210lbs. and 5ft11 and though I have only seen him play twice but I am sure he would make a pretty good Oiler.

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I think an Arnason/McCarthy deal for Comrie + is fair. Arnason is certainly more of a MacT player (two way defensive forward who'll score 20 once in awhile his career---that's the poster boy for a MacT player) and a guy like McCarthy is just what the doctor ordered.

Comrie HAS scored 30, he's not an established 30 goal scorer (yet). There's a difference.
Personally I think that would be a terrible deal.

Comrie may not be a proven 30 goal man, but he did score 30 goals in his only full season, 20 in his other season and that's including missing games with injury and playing the last half of the year with a broken thumb.

If he can't get more than Arnason and McCarthy in a trade at the moment, then let him sit IMO.

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5 points in 60 games. and he's even wieghs less then Bergeron. He isn't as good a skater IMO. And lets just say he's a slight upgrade - not enough to get Moreau/Rita included.

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Radio rumors can be verified by another poster, but newspapers require a hard link?
ah, yes...
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I'm holding the same newspaper in my hand, and it says

Good enough?
ok...

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McCarthy wont be traded, so dont bother. Frankly, i dont know what else we could give up besides arnie and picks for Comrie. We cant afford to give up any more defense.

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McCarthy wont be traded, so dont bother. Frankly, i dont know what else we could give up besides arnie and picks for Comrie. We cant afford to give up any more defense.
What about one of Calder or Bell?

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I agree, Calder or Bell seem more appealing than Arnason. Bell more so because he can play centre. I would love to see McCarthy as an Oiler but cannot see the Hawk's trading away any of their D. If the trade is Arnason - Comrie, I think Lowe should look for something better.

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If the trade is Arnason - Comrie, I think Lowe should look for something better.
Arnason would make sense, though.

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I think the Oilers and Hawks could be very compatable...

If a deal were to go down though i'd hope for this:

To Chicago = Comrie, Ferguson, and Moreau

To Edmonton = Kyle Calder, Nathan Dempsey, and a 3rd rounder


Chicago gets a small but very creative center to play behind Zhamnov but ahead of Arnason and Ruutu. That would give them nice depth at center (Zhamnov, Comrie, Arnason, Ruutu). Ferguson and Moreau bring leadership and depth to the club and the Hawks saw something in Ethan back in the day since they were the ones who picked him in the first round.

The Oilers get Calder, a young emerging power forward (even though he is only listed at 5'11" and 176lbs) with skill and Dempsey, a potential top 4 defenseman down the road who would really shore up our blueline. The pick just balances out the deal but a key factor would have to be that Calder is from Mannville and Dempsey is from Spruce Grove...more hometown boys that Lowe loves to welcome back.

I'd be willing to put my cards down on this deal if it was to go through...i think in the long run the Oil would benefit.

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