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10-11-2013, 07:05 PM
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Habs Future: Long-Term Contracts or Bridge Deals

As the Habs get closer to the expiration of entry level contracts for key players like Alex Galchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher there is a question that needs to be answered. Should the Habs use bridge contracts for these players, similarly to what they did with Subban or take the Edmonton route? On one hand the sky is now the limit for Subban's upcoming deal, on the other longterm is always risky.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/...rom-mlbs-rays/

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Oh man, I am so happy we FINALLY get to discuss this topic. It's been itching at me for months, and nobody seems to rise the question; like EVER

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Bridge contracts- you are paying for expectations such as Subban when he signed his.

Long term - you are paying for proven production as in Subbans next contract.

GM's never have a problem paying for production.

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A bit off topic, but aside from being selected 3rd overall and playing a much more complete game, both Gallagher and Galchenyuk have had similar impact and put up similar numbers. Will they get similar contracts? I think they both deserve close to the same amount and term.

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It's like people have forgotten the whole point of a bridge deal. There are cases that warrant either. Kind of a dumb question.

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Bridge contracts- you are paying for expectations such as Subban when he signed his.

Long term - you are paying for proven production as in Subbans next contract.

GM's never have a problem paying for production.
How are you paying for expectations in the bridge deal? PK was paid at a 2.85M cap hit because they expected him to be worth as little?
PK was already a proven commodity. Had some things to work on, but there was no doubt as to how good he was.

Your assessments don't make sense.

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A bit off topic, but aside from being selected 3rd overall and playing a much more complete game, both Gallagher and Galchenyuk have had similar impact and put up similar numbers. Will they get similar contracts? I think they both deserve close to the same amount and term.
Galchenyuk is still younger. A lot depends with time, but I suspect bigger paycheck for Galchenyuk no doubt.

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It's like people have forgotten the whole point of a bridge deal. There are cases that warrant either. Kind of a dumb question.
People have forgotten what was the point of it after we gave one to PK.

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People have forgotten what was the point of it after we gave one to PK.
Only the team did not GIVE PK a bridge contract. They forced it on him. I hope
he doesn't resent that. But I certainly understand if he does.

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There as not been a lot of long term deal that turn out great form the teams point of view and the one that did usually involve players taking the home town discount or structure the deal to lower the cap hit and not the one where player try to get the most cash...that why I would favor bridge contract also I don't see the point of paying a player 3-4m$ more per year for 2-5 years to try to save 2M$ over 2-3years.

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It should be done on a case by case basis, not set in stone.

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Only the team did not GIVE PK a bridge contract. They forced it on him.
He wasn't 'forced' to sign anything. He was restricted in his options.

Which is the actual point of restricted free agency. Hence the name.

Maybe we should just not qualify our RFAs, let their contracts expire and then negotiate with them as unrestricted free agents, would that make you happier?

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As the Habs get closer to the expiration of entry level contracts for key players like Alex Galchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher there is a question that needs to be answered. Should the Habs use bridge contracts for these players, similarly to what they did with Subban or take the Edmonton route? On one hand the sky is now the limit for Subban's upcoming deal, on the other longterm is always risky.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/...rom-mlbs-rays/
One or the other depending on the player and situation. End of thread.

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