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What did people think of Zigmund Palffy when he scored 87 points in 1995-1996?

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10-14-2013, 03:26 PM
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At his height, not-exactly-stocky, and, as Mark Janssens put it, "unathletic" build, what were you expecting?

As for you wondering why teams didn't acquire him for playoff runs, how do you know what Dave Taylor's asking price was?
People just asked our opinions about him and those are my opinions about him. For the same reason I am not a big fan of Pierre Turgeon over time as well for much of the same reasons. Although Turgeon was better over his career certainly. Probably the same reason I am very indifferent over the Sedins (who actually have had very good teams with little to show for it).

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Was Palffy's breakout year somewhat comparable to, say, Nagy's breakout years with Phoenix circa 2002-2004? Young, slick, offensively gifted European player on a bad team who put up very good offensive numbers (given the era), but didn't offer much else on the ice. And not thought of as someone who would ever be the best player on a contender?

Obviously, Nagy's career in North America went south after the 2005 lockout (haven't kept up with him since, so I have no idea if he even still plays), while Palffy's career was just starting to take off.
Sounds about right. Although Palffy was better than him.

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He was wickedly skilled. 95-96 was the last great year for tons of offensive players.

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I think saying no to Palffy would have been dumb but I can see why they would have turned down Hull and Corson. Both guys were in their 30s and presumably on the decline. Before the '94 lockout I don't think many players stayed effective after 30 and I think that notion may have still resonated in 1996.
Bill Wirtz wasn't Rockey Wirtz. He didn't think the way you are. We're talking about a guy who wouldn't televise home games unless every ticket was sold prior to the beginning of the season (which never happened). Bill was a cheap, senile, stupid old man.

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Bill Wirtz wasn't Rockey Wirtz. He didn't think the way you are. We're talking about a guy who wouldn't televise home games unless every ticket was sold prior to the beginning of the season (which never happened). Bill was a cheap, senile, stupid old man.
senile and a horrible businessman

"ticket sales are going down? let's make sure we make zero revenue from television!"

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Kenny Jönsson was best defender in the OG 2006. Just FYI

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Kenny Jönsson was best defender in the OG 2006. Just FYI
He got the award but I do not think he was the best.

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10-15-2013, 03:32 AM
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He got the award but I do not think he was the best.
Who was better? I guess Timonen and Numminen has an argument..

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Who was better? I guess Timonen and Numminen has an argument..
And Lidstrom. I think Nick played his best hockey ever for the national team.

Kenny had obvious problems during the round-roubin stage, going from Swedish Tier II to the Olympic scene, and didn't play up to his standard until the last few games IMO.

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Not to hijack the thread...but what was the hype around Jonsson coming out of Toronto? I really can't remember anything about him until he came to the island.
There was alot of "Toronto" hype on Jonsson if you get what I mean.

Jonsson was a big name in the 94' Olympics and definitely got a fair share of publicity from it.

Also, there where much fewer Europeans in NA back then and those who did came over seemed to be a little more of a sure thing. There are excemptions, but back then the ones who came over were more guys like Öhlund, Jönsson and the likes, like what 2/3 maybe, while today you got like 2-3 players coming over and not really being close for everyone that makes it.

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Kenny Jönsson was best defender in the OG 2006. Just FYI
I never "got" the hype from him, coming from a Leafs fan. I wasn't upset when he left Toronto.

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I never "got" the hype from him, coming from a Leafs fan. I wasn't upset when he left Toronto.
Well I think most Leafs fan would agree that it wouldve been better to have Murphy - Jönsson as your top-pairing instead of what happened after those trades.

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Well I think most Leafs fan would agree that it wouldve been better to have Murphy - Jönsson as your top-pairing instead of what happened after those trades.
I wish we had Murphy, and I always wish we had kept him. I wasn't proud of how Toronto ran him out of town.

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In addition

Red Wings set the all-time single season wins record

Penguins powerplay was on pace to set the all-time single season conversion rate as late as the all-star break.

Young rookie Ed Jovanovski making the invincible Eric Lindros his girlfriend in the ECSFs.

Jovanovski's Panthers, a bunch of journeyman assembled through the expansion draft, then picking off a team that had 4 100 point guys (and the last point-per-game defenseman until 2008) in the ECFs.

THE Wings/Avalanche playoff series.

Jagr breaking the points and assist record for both a wing and a European.

Gary Roberts returning from a broken neck.

Grant Fuhr playing the most games of any goaltender ever...



That year was like a temporal-junction point in the space time continuum of hockey. So much going on.

I mean, I was aware a guy on the Islanders wearing 68 scored 40 goals...but so did 20 other guys.

Just to demonstrate how much crazy stuff was going on that year, Palffy's finish in the points race was two spots lower than Matt Moulson's was last year. His goal finish the same as that of Pascal Dupuis.
Ah My favorite year of hockey

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That is interesting.
The methodological problem of course is that he doesn't have a photographic memory of what other people have seen.

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