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10-21-2013, 02:42 PM
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Cutler doesn't have an NFL body. Franchise tag him, no long term deals. If someone wants to trade for him, probably do it.

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10-21-2013, 02:45 PM
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Cutler doesn't have an NFL body. Franchise tag him, no long term deals. If someone wants to trade for him, probably do it.
What?

2007 = 16 games
2008 = 16 games
2009 = 16 games
2010 = 15 games
2011 = 10 games (Broke thumb when trying to chase down Charger due to Knox screwup)
2012 = 15 games
2013 = 7 games (With freak injury)

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How was that a freak injury yesterday?

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Agree to disagree. I was worried about him getting hurt before yesterday. Now, I just can't count on him. Maybe not even his fault either, we ran him into the ground with bad O-lines. All I know is that I don't see how you can count him, so why wouldn't you just franchise tag him?

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10-21-2013, 02:56 PM
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Agree to disagree. I was worried about him getting hurt before yesterday. Now, I just can't count on him. Maybe not even his fault either, we ran him into the ground with bad O-lines. All I know is that I don't see how you can count him, so why wouldn't you just franchise tag him?
Yeah, I think all those times he did get up from those massive hits are finally taking a toll. I love the guy, but I wouldn't want to give him more than 3 years, and really would like to see us draft a guy to sit on the bench for a year, even if we spend a 2nd round pick to do so.

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How was that a freak injury yesterday?
Aren't most groin injuries sustained while running? I don't think I've heard of a QB getting a groin injury in the manner Cutler did.

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10-21-2013, 03:20 PM
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Aren't most groin injuries sustained while running? I don't think I've heard of a QB getting a groin injury in the manner Cutler did.

I'm really not sure, to be honest, but I do know that the groin muscles (adductors) help move the body laterally... so I'm not thinking that many come as a result of running, well, not north and south at least.

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That was absolutely a freak injury. There are over a thousand tackles evey week, and you see a torn groin muscle what, maybe a handful of times per season? Cutler is going to get a 4 or 5 year deal probably 75-90 mil

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10-21-2013, 04:16 PM
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He got whipped around and his muscles couldn't handle the pressure and gave in. That's not a freak injury, IMO. A freak injury to me would have been if like something fell out of the sky and smashed him in the head, and he had no control... Not that any of this matters.

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That was absolutely a freak injury. There are over a thousand tackles evey week, and you see a torn groin muscle what, maybe a handful of times per season? Cutler is going to get a 4 or 5 year deal probably 75-90 mil
Please no. I like him, but he has not earned that type of deal.

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Please no. I like him, but he has not earned that type of deal.
Do you know how much NFL QB's get paid? That'd be a bargain. Romo just signed 6 years $108 mil, Rivers 7 years $98 mil

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10-21-2013, 07:13 PM
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Do you know how much NFL QB's get paid? That'd be a bargain. Romo just signed 6 years $108 mil, Rivers 7 years $98 mil
I know; I'd just rather franchise him and see if he can finish a season and have the team do well. I have expectations and when it doesn't work out, I like to start on something else.

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10-21-2013, 07:21 PM
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I know; I'd just rather franchise him and see if he can finish a season and have the team do well. I have expectations and when it doesn't work out, I like to start on something else.
Cutler at 1 year on franchise tag is nearly 15M-17M (And way it would be structured would be big blow to cap since it being 1 yr prevents team from spreading it out)

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I know; I'd just rather franchise him and see if he can finish a season and have the team do well. I have expectations and when it doesn't work out, I like to start on something else.
Why couldn't he finish a season? You know what Cutler is now. Franchising him next year delays the rebuild of the defense since his cap hit will be around 20 mil

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10-21-2013, 07:27 PM
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Anyway we cut it Bears are boned this year. Defense was going to struggle this year, that being said any team in the NFL with this amount of injured D starters would be in serious trouble. I think Tillman is going to deal with this all year. Briggs out for a good stretch.

They will need to score 40 every week. Heard a stat that Bears were 2nd highest scoring team in NFL, what?! If we only still had a D. Unless there is some great QB in the 1st round you have to resign Cutler. So much garbage in the NFL, who wants to deal with that again.

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10-21-2013, 07:30 PM
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Anyway we cut it Bears are boned this year. Defense was going to struggle this year, that being said any team in the NFL with this amount of injured D starters would be in serious trouble. I think Tillman is going to deal with this all year. Briggs out for a good stretch.

They will need to score 40 every week. Heard a stat that Bears were 2nd highest scoring team in NFL, what?! If we only still had a D. Unless there is some great QB in the 1st round you have to resign Cutler. So much garbage in the NFL, who wants to deal with that again.

hypothetically, if mccown looks decent and the bears win some games without cutler, is there really any reason to commit big money to him?

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10-21-2013, 07:35 PM
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Hopefully the injury reduces cutty's price for a long-ish deal and he recovers and never misses a game again.

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10-21-2013, 07:39 PM
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hypothetically, if mccown looks decent and the bears win some games without cutler, is there really any reason to commit big money to him?
I think Mccown had a good game but he can't replicate what Cutler brings week in and week out. Washington is a pretty bad team. You let Cutler walk and you end up in QB hell again unless you have a plan and I don't even like Cutler.

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10-21-2013, 07:45 PM
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I think Mccown had a good game but he can't replicate what Cutler brings week in and week out. Washington is a pretty bad team. You let Cutler walk and you end up in QB hell again unless you have a plan and I don't even like Cutler.
the question shouldn't be "what do we do without cutler", it should be "can we win a super bowl with cutler". If management doesn't believe they can, then they shouldn't commit to him for a long term, big money deal. Especially with all the holes on defense.

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10-21-2013, 07:57 PM
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the question shouldn't be "what do we do without cutler", it should be "can we win a super bowl with cutler". If management doesn't believe they can, then they shouldn't commit to him for a long term, big money deal. Especially with all the holes on defense.
While I agree but until you get the QB position fixed, the defense doesn't matter

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Not a chance that we could win a superbowl without Cutler or another QB of similar quality. This ain't your dad's Bears team, this is a modern offense-first-and-second NFL team. We absolutely cannot go back into QB hell now.

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10-21-2013, 07:59 PM
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More than ever, I think the switch to a 3-4 may happen. Don't know what 0 techs are in free agency or the draft but you're totally reloading the D and can do what you want. Between the peppers, Melton, E Bennet, and Hester money, you have over $30 mil in cap room to play with

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More than ever, I think the switch to a 3-4 may happen. Don't know what 0 techs are in free agency or the draft but you're totally reloading the D and can do what you want. Between the peppers, Melton, E Bennet, and Hester money, you have over $30 mil in cap room to play with
Well they need to do something because the lack of pressure is exposing our secondary something awful.

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Bears are in this situation one due to injuries, a big #2 for years of horrible drafting. You have one solid NFL player from last year's draft. I don't even want to talk about how far Angelo set us back. Guys should be ready to step in some of these holes, not all but some. Bears don't have jack.

You have the new NFL rules restricting huge 1st round contracts now. You must hit pay dirt there and get several years of the guy before paying him.

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Bears are in this situation one due to injuries, a big #2 for years of horrible drafting. You have one solid NFL player from last year's draft. I don't even want to talk about how far Angelo set us back. Guys should be ready to step in some of these holes, not all but some. Bears don't have jack.

You have the new NFL rules restricting huge 1st round contracts now. You must hit pay dirt there and get several years of the guy before paying him.
They got Frey too who appears to be a pretty decent nickel. Agree it wasn't a good draft but this years draft is very good with a chance to be spectacular

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