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10-11-2013, 03:06 AM
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Clean "hit", hell it wasn't even a real hit. The kid will get hurt if he leans in to a 50/50 situation like that. I cannot see how this is suspension worthy, initial point of contact also looks to be the shoulder/chest area at least at the same time as Hertl's head is clipped. The flying lid makes this look way worse than it is.

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10-11-2013, 03:17 AM
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"Opportunitstic" by Edler in my opinion. He could easily have blocked Hertl in a less "dramatic" way if he wanted to.

That said, if Hertl has his mind set on smashing into Edler's shoulder with his head why should Edler be punished for it? If Zuccarello had done the same "block" on Chara would you suspend Zuccarello? it probably would have been Chara getting a penalty instead.

I didn't like it and I don't particularly like Edler when it comes to these kind of things (much worse, but similar kind of mentality that lead to his suspension in the WC), but you can't suspend anyone for that "hit" (it really is Hertl hitting Edler).

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10-11-2013, 03:22 AM
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At the very worst they'll give him a game, but it is Shanny so it could be 5 games or 30 I have no idea.

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10-11-2013, 03:36 AM
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At the very worst they'll give him a game, but it is Shanny so it could be 5 games or 30 I have no idea.
Spin the wheel!

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10-11-2013, 04:15 AM
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Y'all did notice there was no call by the refs? so why would this even be reviewed by Shanny?

No injury, no call, no intent. can't see it being a suspension. Hertl should get a call about having his helmet properly strapped.

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10-11-2013, 04:40 AM
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Y'all did notice there was no call by the refs? so why would this even be reviewed by Shanny?

No injury, no call, no intent. can't see it being a suspension. Hertl should get a call about having his helmet properly strapped.
Doesnt have to be called on the ice for review.

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10-11-2013, 05:17 AM
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Clean as the freshly driven snow.

The fact that there will probably be a suspension for this makes me want to puke.
Exactly. If Edler is suspended, hockey is officially ruined. The day you can't make a hit like that is the day the NHL becomes a joke.

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10-11-2013, 05:31 AM
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After careful consideration, Alexander Edler has been suspended for 2 games for his actions on Herty McHertl.

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10-11-2013, 05:57 AM
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Doesnt have to be called on the ice for review.
thanks, thought my comment made that obvious. But the refs not calling it is one of the factors usually.

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Doesnt have to be called on the ice for review.
Still the NHL isn't keen on deciding suspensions on non-calls.

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10-11-2013, 06:37 AM
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Lol. Holy ****ing ****. This has to be a joke...?

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Vancouver Canucks defenseman Alexander Edler will have a hearing with the NHL Department of Player Safety Friday for an incident against the San Jose Sharks Thursday night at Rogers Arena.

At approximately 19:46 of the second period, Edler collied with Sharks forward Tomas Hertl near the Vancouver bench, resulting in Hertl losing his helmet. There was no penalty called on the play and Hertl skated a regular shift in the third period.

The following grounds are being considered for supplemental discipline: illegal check to the head. However, the Department of Player Safety retains the right to make adjustments to the infraction upon review.

San Jose won the game, 4-1.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

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Elder should just ask for 6 games so he can appeal it to a sane, impartial, competent, neutral third party, then get it tossed.

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2-3 games. contact with the head

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10-11-2013, 08:11 AM
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There is a rule against a hit where the head is the principle point of contact. It could be argued (speculative in my mind) that the head is the principle point of contact in this altercation.

The thing I have a problem with is the fact that this is not a hit. Edler skated across the ice and got himself between Hertl and the puck and stood his ground. Hertl went head first into Edler.

If Edler put his shoulder to Hertl's shoulder in that situation Hertl would get put through the side boards and taken out on a stretcher.

Obviously Shanahan disagrees.

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There is a rule against a hit where the head is the principle point of contact. It could be argued (speculative in my mind) that the head is the principle point of contact in this altercation.

The thing I have a problem with is the fact that this is not a hit. Edler skated across the ice and got himself between Hertl and the puck and stood his ground. Hertl went head first into Edler.

If Edler put his shoulder to Hertl's shoulder in that situation Hertl would get put through the side boards and taken out on a stretcher.

Obviously Shanahan disagrees.
I get what you're saying but i think there are many different ways to 'hit' a player that don't look like the prototypical bodycheck or open ice hit.

I think Edler knew exactly what he was doing. He didn't really attempt to play the puck (IMO) and braced himself for impact. Although his elbow was tucked in, he led with the shoulder to the head. He'll be suspended.

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So when the playoffs roll around, we should dress some rubbish AHL players and make them skate head first into the shoulders of the opposing team's star players.

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thanks, thought my comment made that obvious. But the refs not calling it is one of the factors usually.
You asked why it would be reviewed.

It appears to me that the league has indicated it doesnt really care about the on ice call when it concerns head shots.

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10-11-2013, 09:00 AM
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Sadly I was. right.

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So when the playoffs roll around, we should dress some rubbish AHL players and make them skate head first into the shoulders of the opposing team's star players.
Finally, something even Andrew Alberts couldn't screw up.

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So when the playoffs roll around, we should dress some rubbish AHL players and make them skate head first into the shoulders of the opposing team's star players.
Gotta put Canucks jerseys on 'em first.

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I completely forgot about the hit, it was not dirty at all. This reminds me of the Hansen suspension were you think there is no chance of a suspension, yet the Canucks still get the short end of the stick.

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In honesty, it depends on the line Edler took, and I don't think I can tell from the replays I saw.

Either it was:

A) an accidental glancing blow to the head because he miss timed the hit

or

B) it was perfectly timed and Hertl just had his head down

A is a Suspension, and B is well... it will be a joke when he gets suspended for B.

I think we are screwed here and should brace for a suspension, and probably big because of the repeat offender status.

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10-11-2013, 09:27 AM
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I think he will be suspended mainly because he is a Canuck

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Lame. Kassian steps up physically and is immediately suspended. Now Edler has a big, physical game and will likely be suspended, too. Hoping that neither guy is gunshy when they return.

Luckily, I don't think Torts will let them be. Weise has been noticeably more physical since returning from his suspension.

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Lame. Kassian steps up physically and is immediately suspended. Now Edler has a big, physical game and will likely be suspended, too. Hoping that neither guy is gunshy when they return.

Luckily, I don't think Torts will let them be. Weise has been noticeably more physical since returning from his suspension.
Kassian didn't step up physically. In fact, I thought he was pretty invisible the entire preseason when it comes to physicality. He got a suspension for wildly swinging his stick around. Anyone can do that.

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Y'all did notice there was no call by the refs? so why would this even be reviewed by Shanny?

No injury, no call, no intent. can't see it being a suspension. Hertl should get a call about having his helmet properly strapped.
Honey Badger got suspended for tapping Hossa while he was going for the puck and there was no penalty. In that case, Hossa did fall to the ice and missed some time though.

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