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10-30-2013, 12:12 AM
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Krueger was not good.

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Krueger was not good.
He wasn't, but...

Even he got results thanks to fabulous special teams.

I don't want him back as a HC but if this keeps up...

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Renny with Krueger and Eakins as assistants sounds pretty good right now. But at this point, let's just demote Eakins, bring in MacT as HC and bring Moose as a assistant coach (seriously). And let Howson take the GM reigns.

Then trade Eberle and 2014 1st for a top 2 D, and trade Hemsky, N.Schultz and Arcobello at the trade deadline for some winger grit. Call up Larsen.

/Dream-over.

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10-30-2013, 12:18 AM
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Krueger was not good.
Nothing excuses bringing in a green coach who has to learn on the go.

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Krueger was not good.
But Eakins is better?

Hey, Better or not, Kruger almost got us to the playoffs (if our players had any heart, we would've made it) and had the PP and PK going, he just needed time for our 5 on 5. If he had a guy like Eakins to help out on the 5-5, we would've been golden.

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10-30-2013, 12:19 AM
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He wasn't, but...

Even he got results thanks to fabulous special teams.

I don't want him back as a HC but if this keeps up...
Yeah though too much credit often goes to the coach and likewise when they struggle. Eakins didnt come in and tell the PP to pass,pass,pass until they get a chance for a tapin goal. Shorthanded dubnyk had the first or second best sv% in the league, which helps a ton. Krueger did seem to have less quality chances against though, thats for sure.

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10-30-2013, 12:21 AM
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Nothing excuses bringing in a green coach who has to learn on the go.
Funny

The 630ched guys just said that Eakins is a rookie coach, and we need to be patient when he's up against veteran coaches like Carlyle.

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10-30-2013, 12:22 AM
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Would MacT Demoting eakins and stepping in as HC be considered 'bold'?

Because amazingly I wouldn't be against it after these last few games.
That's exactly what we need to turn this gongshow into a complete fiasco. One of our Oilers Legends says "god damn it, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself!" and parachutes out of the press-box using an actual parachute.

"You! Check harder! You! Score more goals! Listen, punk! I won 6 Stanley Cups! I know what it takes to win! Hey, you in the pads! Stop letting pucks go in the net!"

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Yeah though too much credit often goes to the coach and likewise when they struggle. Eakins didnt come in and tell the PP to pass,pass,pass until they get a chance for a tapin goal. Shorthanded dubnyk had the first or second best sv% in the league, which helps a ton. Krueger did seem to have less quality chances against though, thats for sure.
Kreuger's biggest problem was the 5-on-5 play. This year we have no trouble scoring even strength (save for today) but now our special teams are crap.

It's very irritating that there's always a glaring problem.

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That's exactly what we need to turn this gongshow into a complete fiasco. One of our Oilers Legends says "god damn it, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself!" and parachutes out of the press-box using an actual parachute.

"You! Check harder! You! Score more goals! Listen, punk! I won 6 Stanley Cups! I know what it takes to win! Hey, you in the pads! Stop letting pucks go in the net!"
Oh don't get me wrong I'm aware that we would still suck if it happened.

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10-30-2013, 12:24 AM
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Funny

The 630ched guys just said that Eakins is a rookie coach, and we need to be patient when he's up against veteran coaches like Carlyle.
I just heard that as well.
Rob Brown at his best which isnt very good.

I would like to hear him explain the thought process in hiring a rookie coach who has to learn on the go along with a team who is doing the same thing.

Little wonder the team looks so confused...the coach is going to take 60+ games to figure things out.

According to Rob Brown thats perfectly okay.

Hey Rob...why didnt the team hire an experienced coach to help an inexperienced team?

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10-30-2013, 12:26 AM
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Yeah though too much credit often goes to the coach and likewise when they struggle. Eakins didnt come in and tell the PP to pass,pass,pass until they get a chance for a tapin goal. Shorthanded dubnyk had the first or second best sv% in the league, which helps a ton. Krueger did seem to have less quality chances against though, thats for sure.
Krueger also had less quality to work with , period.

No Perron, just a PRV.

No Gordon, just a Belanger

No healthy RNH, just some imposter with a bum shoulder all year

No healthy Eberle, just a one handed dude.

No Belov, just a peg leg in Whitney

No training camp to try to get the groundwork in for a system

48 games to prove himself

Gonzo.

This organization absolutely kills me. What a joke. As a STH, I may as well flush my tickets down the toilet. Disgusting.

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10-30-2013, 12:30 AM
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Krueger also had less quality to work with , period.

No Perron, just a PRV.

No Gordon, just a Belanger

No healthy RNH, just some imposter with a bum shoulder all year

No healthy Eberle, just a one handed dude.

No Belov, just a peg leg in Whitney

No training camp to try to get the groundwork in for a system

48 games to prove himself

Gonzo.

This organization absolutely kills me. What a joke. As a STH, I may as well flush my tickets down the toilet. Disgusting.
this is true, I believe Kruger got a raw deal, the ship has sailed, its really unfortunate that Eakins' "growing pains" will likely cost us another year out of the playoffs

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10-30-2013, 12:31 AM
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38 even strength shots but zero goals. How is that a coaching problem? Their best players need to be playing better. It will come.

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Krueger also had less quality to work with , period.

No Perron, just a PRV.

No Gordon, just a Belanger

No healthy RNH, just some imposter with a bum shoulder all year

No healthy Eberle, just a one handed dude.

No Belov, just a peg leg in Whitney

No training camp to try to get the groundwork in for a system

48 games to prove himself

Gonzo.

This organization absolutely kills me. What a joke. As a STH, I may as well flush my tickets down the toilet. Disgusting.
You have my sympathy.

I couldn't even bring myself to buy a Mini Pack the past few years.

Good points on Kruger as well.

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10-30-2013, 12:33 AM
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Krueger also had less quality to work with , period.

No Perron, just a PRV.

No Gordon, just a Belanger

No healthy RNH, just some imposter with a bum shoulder all year

No healthy Eberle, just a one handed dude.

No Belov, just a peg leg in Whitney

No training camp to try to get the groundwork in for a system

48 games to prove himself

Gonzo.

This organization absolutely kills me. What a joke. As a STH, I may as well flush my tickets down the toilet. Disgusting.
Been saying this myself throughout the thread, Eakins was given a superior roster to what Kreuger had(especially at even strength), and is getting inferior results.

Kreuger gets a bad rap for not having the type of demeanor expected of an NHL head coach, but he's far better than Mact's long lost brother.

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10-30-2013, 12:34 AM
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38 even strength shots but zero goals. How is that a coaching problem? Their best players need to be playing better. It will come.
I think you just found our new motto.

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**** this ****ing team
cant ****ing believe this ****ing ****. how the **** is a team allowed to be in the nhl with this ****ing ****

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Krueger also had less quality to work with , period.

No Perron, just a PRV.

No Gordon, just a Belanger

No healthy RNH, just some imposter with a bum shoulder all year

No healthy Eberle, just a one handed dude.

No Belov, just a peg leg in Whitney

No training camp to try to get the groundwork in for a system

48 games to prove himself

Gonzo.

This organization absolutely kills me. What a joke. As a STH, I may as well flush my tickets down the toilet. Disgusting.
Nice. I wanted to essentially write this post all night about how much better the Oilers SHOULD be this year, but I couldn't remember all the roster changes.

It's actually stunning when you think about it.

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10-30-2013, 01:08 AM
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Funny

The 630ched guys just said that Eakins is a rookie coach, and we need to be patient when he's up against veteran coaches like Carlyle.
Patrick Roy is also a rookie coach. Maybe Eakins is just overrated.

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Patrick Roy is also a rookie coach. Maybe Eakins is just overrated.
You may be onto something

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Krueger also had less quality to work with , period.

No Perron, just a PRV.

No Gordon, just a Belanger

No healthy RNH, just some imposter with a bum shoulder all year

No healthy Eberle, just a one handed dude.

No Belov, just a peg leg in Whitney

No training camp to try to get the groundwork in for a system

48 games to prove himself

Gonzo.

This organization absolutely kills me. What a joke. As a STH, I may as well flush my tickets down the toilet. Disgusting.
This. Eakins has been given a superior roster and the whole summer and training camp to implement his system and 14 games in, the Oilers are the third worst team in the league.

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10-30-2013, 01:21 AM
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I just heard that as well.
Rob Brown at his best which isnt very good.

I would like to hear him explain the thought process in hiring a rookie coach who has to learn on the go along with a team who is doing the same thing.

Little wonder the team looks so confused...the coach is going to take 60+ games to figure things out.

According to Rob Brown thats perfectly okay.

Hey Rob...why didnt the team hire an experienced coach to help an inexperienced team?
that rookie head coach is Colorado is doing pretty good...he doesn't seem to need x number games for his systems to work

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The one thing I don't get with Eakins is how he doesn't want bench players because he has no use for them and wants to focus on the main guys in practice. Well, tonight Perron sits out because of illness and now we have to roll with 11 forwards which clearly hurt us..

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10-30-2013, 01:38 AM
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Remember before Kreuger when everybody was all excited he'd be a huge difference maker after having to sit through a Renney season?

Remember before Easkins when everybody was all excited he'd be a huge difference maker after having to sit through a Kreuger season?


We really need to stop hiring rookie coaches to teach this team how to play. Simple as that.

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