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Bobby Clarke and his play.

My Dad says that Bobby Clarke was "the dirtiest player ever to play professional hockey".

And my Dad is a lifelong hockey fan who is in his 70's. Therefore, he has seen a lot of hockey from all sorts of different eras.

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There you have it, definitive proof that Clarke is the dirtiest player of all time.

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When you have to injure/cheat your opponent in order to defeat him, you're admitting you're inferior.

Valeri Kharlamov, RIP

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The one thing I wish Clarke did more often is fight more of his own battles. He didn't do that often enough for a guy that was as dirty as he was. This isn't to say he wasn't a great player, but he wasn't the cleanest guy on the ice and if you are going around with your claws up you shouldn't be protected all the time.

The thing is, I like it when players play on the edge a bit. Messier, Howe, Lindsay and even Clarke are guys who crossed the line to the point where they translated this into winning and developing more ice in front of them. But you can never say Messier or Howe hid behind their tough guy when the going got tough.

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The one thing I wish Clarke did more often is fight more of his own battles. He didn't do that often enough for a guy that was as dirty as he was. This isn't to say he wasn't a great player, but he wasn't the cleanest guy on the ice and if you are going around with your claws up you shouldn't be protected all the time.

The thing is, I like it when players play on the edge a bit. Messier, Howe, Lindsay and even Clarke are guys who crossed the line to the point where they translated this into winning and developing more ice in front of them. But you can never say Messier or Howe hid behind their tough guy when the going got tough.
I get where you are coming from, and I agree to an extent. But sometimes 'fighting your own battles' doesn't cut it. Injuring Kharlamov on purpose or the 'play' in the video above has no place in sports. That doesn't change if you stick up for yourself afterwards. It is better than hiding on top of that, but it doesn't belong, no matter what you do afterwards. Just wanted to point that out. I have no respect for a player who pulls stunts like this.

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The one thing I wish Clarke did more often is fight more of his own battles. He didn't do that often enough for a guy that was as dirty as he was. This isn't to say he wasn't a great player, but he wasn't the cleanest guy on the ice and if you are going around with your claws up you shouldn't be protected all the time.

The thing is, I like it when players play on the edge a bit. Messier, Howe, Lindsay and even Clarke are guys who crossed the line to the point where they translated this into winning and developing more ice in front of them. But you can never say Messier or Howe hid behind their tough guy when the going got tough.
Let´s say Fetisov would slash Gretzkys ankle off in game 2 in 87. Would you like that too? Chances are they would win. Or if he had done the same to Bobby Orr in 1974?

Come to think of it, did clarke ever do as terrible things in the NHL as he did against international stars like the butt end to Pospíšil or ankle slash to Kharlamov. Or did he save the really psychotic behaviour for when he knew he didn´t have to face on ice repercussions or public consequences.

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When you have to injure/cheat your opponent in order to defeat him, you're admitting you're inferior.

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I think that one's on Ferguson.

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I get where you are coming from, and I agree to an extent. But sometimes 'fighting your own battles' doesn't cut it. Injuring Kharlamov on purpose or the 'play' in the video above has no place in sports. That doesn't change if you stick up for yourself afterwards. It is better than hiding on top of that, but it doesn't belong, no matter what you do afterwards. Just wanted to point that out. I have no respect for a player who pulls stunts like this.
Nor do I have much respect for Clarke despite his indisputably superb talents. You are spot on. This kind of conduct--the cowardly behind-the-back butt-end blow he delivered to Pospíšil's head and the vicious slash to the ankle by which he deliberately took Kharlamov out of the game--was different in kind from the foul play that typically drew a penalty. It was, quite simply, disgustingly filthy conduct that was way over the top in its violence.

It is worth emphasizing that Clarke did this while repreeenting his country, while wearing a jersey bearing the national emblem. At a minimum Canada should have withdrawn Clarke from the team for the balance of the tournament. That would have been insufficient in my view, but at least it would have been a minimal bow to sportsmanship and fair play.

What Canada really should have done is ban Clarke from playing for the national team again once he pulled something like this. Even by the standards of the time, this kind of dirty play was an outrage. Still, the NHL of the time might have countenanced even this level of violence as part of the game, as blowing off steam, and deemed it sufficient to respond by handing out a major penalty or perhaps a game penalty. Yet representing one's country is a different matter entirely. That should be carried out with at least the semblance of honor and dignity, of sportsmanship.

Clarke was liable to burst out with this kind of unbridled violence at any time. He did not have the character required to wear the national uniform. He was unfit to represent Canada.

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Hey, it was the 70s, man ... that stuff was considered cool back then. Other "cool" things in the 70s were police brutality, satanic cults and outlaw biker gangs.

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My Dad says that Bobby Clarke was "the dirtiest player ever to play professional hockey".

And my Dad is a lifelong hockey fan who is in his 70's. Therefore, he has seen a lot of hockey from all sorts of different eras.
Is Your Dad a Pens Fan by chance? That's like Me saying that Crosby is the biggest baby ever to play professional hockey because I'm a Flyers fan.

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Funny coming from a person with a Raider as an avatar.

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This has gone about as well as the original poster intended, no doubt.

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