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10-16-2013, 12:37 PM
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Higgins/Plekanec/Gorges for Lecavalier

Was this offer legitimately made by the Habs or is this a joke ?
Read it in here on HFB.

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10-16-2013, 12:38 PM
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Was a terrible offer then and is one today still.

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I think Subban was also part of the offer, at the time he wasn't on the roster yet and not as well known.

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Depends who you ask.

Some people are now saying it was Price, Subban, Pacioretty, 10x1st round picks, the rights to the Habs logo, $200000000000 cash and half of Montreal island.

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I don't remember the exact offer but I think that all of those players were said to be available. Heard Subban's name was thrown around too.

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Not sure who was the ratard responsible for this offer but it was REALLY bad.

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Was a terrible offer then and is one today still.
Why? We wouldn't of traded for Gomez and when you add that into the big picture it looks positively acceptable.

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Depends who you ask.

Some people are now saying it was Price, Subban, Pacioretty, 10x1st round picks, the rights to the Habs logo, $200000000000 cash and half of Montreal island.
That's what someone said too... LOL.. not sure if srs.

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Why? We wouldn't of traded for Gomez and when you add that into the big picture it looks positively acceptable.
On paper it's a bad deal, considering hindsight, which is what I meant really.

If we'Re going to talk about dominoes falling and what not, that's a different story.

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Was this offer legitimately made by the Habs or is this a joke ?
Read it in here on HFB.
That's what the initial rumoured offer was. Than it turned into Price and PK etc. and Lawson eventually made it sound better and better as time went on.

That was the original offer and I probably would have done it. The NHL supposedly rejected the trade die to new ownership and TB losing their most marketable player.

Even in hindsight, I wish we had made this deal.ayne I'm the only one but Vinny still put up some decent numbers and would have helped draw more quality UFAs to Montreal.

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That's what the initial rumoured offer was. Than it turned into Price and PK etc. and Lawson eventually made it sound better and better as time went on.

That was the original offer and I probably would have done it. The NHL supposedly rejected the trade die to new ownership and TB losing their most marketable player.

Even in hindsight, I wish we had made this deal.ayne I'm the only one but Vinny still put up some decent numbers and would have helped draw more quality UFAs to Montreal.
I'm not sure of all the facts but it seemed that part of the ownership group was running around wheeling and dealing and another part of the ownership group didn't want to make the deals. So, Bettman just said no to the deals. I don't think Bettman would just nix a deal just because he didn't like it, there had to be a legal or legitimate reason for saying no.

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Whatever the offer might have been for Lecavalier, I'm glad it never went through. He's been in serious decline since he signed that huge contract, which I fully expected.

However, when Tampa bought out his contract, I was in favor of signing him for 2-3 years for 4-5 million or so. But definitely not for the contract Philly gave him. Too risky, AND they gave him a NMC.
Speaking of which, what is it with Holmgrem and handing out NMS's like candy ???

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I'd do the trade. When this fell thru Gainey had to call Sather in a panic and trade McDonagh for Gomez so he'd have a "#1 Centre" going into UFA season. Higgins was traded anyways, you'd have McDonagh who's way better than Gorges

edit: talking about the original higgins, plekanec and gorges for lecavalier rumour


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I think it was:
Subban, Pacioretty, Gorges, 1st pick 2010 (Tinordi) vs Lecavalier

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I'd do the trade. When this fell thru Gainey had to call Sather in a panic and trade McDonagh for Gomez so he'd have a "#1 Centre" going into UFA season. Higgins was traded anyways, you'd have McDonagh who's way better than Gorges
But then we probably wouldn't have Galchenyuk.

I'm happy how it all went down. 1 bad season, 1 amazing player drafted, then a quick division title. And now we're poised to continue making the playoffs for the foreseeable future.

Not bad.

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The rumor started because of a leak by Lawton which pissed off Gainey.

The original deal, when the rumor leaked was Gorges, Plekanec Higgins. A couple of years later, the names were changed to Subban, Price Gorges and Plekanec. And then last year, Lawton goes on to claim that he was offered Subban, Pacioretty, Price and Plekanec.

The names involved changed three times.

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10-16-2013, 01:11 PM
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Let's just say I'm glad one of their owner at the time turned it down!

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The rumor started because of a leak by Lawton which pissed off Gainey.

The original deal, when the rumor leaked was Gorges, Plekanec Higgins. A couple of years later, the names were changed to Subban, Price Gorges and Plekanec. And then last year, Lawton goes on to claim that he was offered Subban, Pacioretty, Price and Plekanec.

The names involved changed three times.
Thanks Andy, I knew the original offer was big, but not as big as Lawton later claimed it was.

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I think it was:
Subban, Pacioretty, Gorges, 1st pick 2010 (Tinordi) vs Lecavalier
That's the "fake" one, as in Lawton making himself look good on deadline day.

Truth is in the OP, as Gainey himself was pissed that actual roster players were named by the opposing GM.

I for one believe Gainey. The trade "evolved" for entertainement purposes. Look at the deal we had for Hossa: Grabosky, Halak and a 1st. When Waddell came in and wanted Higgins to be added, Bob backed down. Should be a good way to measure what was really offered for Vinny.

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I prefer Higgins, Plekanec and Gorges over Lecavalier to be honest

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It never included Price or Subban or Pacioretty. All three of them were added later by Brian Lawton trying to save face.

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Facts and proof are sweet.

Thanks LL, and **** Lawton.

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I prefer Higgins, Plekanec and Gorges over Lecavalier to be honest
Now? Sure.

But in 2009 he had 67 points in 77 games. Not superstar numbers right?

Still...hard to dispute the 40 goals, 52 assists in 81 games the year prior.

Or maybe the 52 goals, 56 assists in 82 games the year before that.

At the time, Lecavalier was a stud.

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Facts and proof are sweet.

Thanks LL, and **** Lawton.
I had a good memory of the press conference and like to bring it up when the rumours get too crazy.

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