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10-15-2013, 01:18 AM
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Make the best team of all time - out of only captains

Thread title says it all. Make the best team you possibly can, of all time, only using players who were captains of an NHL team at some point in their careers. This includes goaltenders, which will make your choices there obviously very narrow.

I suppose one could make a team like this out of alternate captains (but never captains as well) too. And I wonder what team would be better?

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Charlie Gardiner has to be the goalie, right?

When did the rule against goalies being captains come into existence?

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10-15-2013, 01:50 AM
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olympic style 23 man roster:

esposito gretzky howe
messier beliveau richard
lindsay lemieux jagr
gainey clarke peca
sakic

potvin bourque
lidstrom chelios
cleghorn stevens
pilote

gardiner
hainsworth
luongo

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10-15-2013, 01:56 AM
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Charlie Gardiner has to be the goalie, right?

When did the rule against goalies being captains come into existence?
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During the 1947-48 season, Durnan served as the Canadiens' captain. However, he left the crease so often to argue calls that other teams claimed he was giving the Canadiens unscheduled timeouts. After the season, the NHL passed a rule barring goaltenders from performing the duties of captain, known as the "Durnan Rule."
Not realizing Gardiner was a captain, Durnan would have been my choice for a goalie on this team.

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Another good question - on this team, who would make the best captain?

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Charlie Gardiner has to be the goalie, right?

When did the rule against goalies being captains come into existence?
IDK, luongo was the captain until a few years back IIRC

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IDK, luongo was the captain until a few years back IIRC
He wasn't a real captain in the eyes of the NHL - he had no letter on his jersey and no right to leave the crease to argue with refs.

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olympic style 23 man roster:

esposito gretzky howe
messier beliveau richard
lindsay lemieux jagr
gainey clarke peca
sakic

potvin bourque
lidstrom chelios
cleghorn stevens
pilote

gardiner
hainsworth
luongo
The greatest captain of all time is conspicuously absent. #19

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Still shocks me that Orr never wore the C.

If I had to choose a captain for this team, it'd have to be Beliveau with Messier and Gretzky wearing the As

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olympic style 23 man roster:

esposito gretzky howe
messier beliveau richard
lindsay lemieux jagr
gainey clarke peca
sakic

potvin bourque
lidstrom chelios
cleghorn stevens
pilote

gardiner
hainsworth
luongo
Henri Richard over Peca, definitely.

And if you want to use the defensive version of Yzerman, he could fit on the checking line, as well.


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I noticed the defense didn't have Harvey in there. Yes, Harvey was a captain for Montreal in 1960-'61 just after Richard and just before Beliveau.

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esposito gretzky howe
messier beliveau richard
lindsay lemieux jagr
Ovechkin Yzerman Mikhailov
sakic

potvin bourque
lidstrom chelios
Fetisov Stevens
Leetch

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I noticed the defense didn't have Harvey in there. Yes, Harvey was a captain for Montreal in 1960-'61 just after Richard and just before Beliveau.
There's a lot of guys like that. Would be nice to have some kind of requirement...maybe minimum 5 years as captain?

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Charlie Gardiner has to be the goalie, right?

When did the rule against goalies being captains come into existence?
Here are the NHL goalie captains:
http://hockeygoalies.org/faq/captains.html

Of that list, I'd take Bill Durnan (although there are some great choices).

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Here are the NHL goalie captains:
http://hockeygoalies.org/faq/captains.html

Of that list, I'd take Bill Durnan (although there are some great choices).
I would take Durnan myself... as Charlie Gardiner's backup.

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There's a lot of guys like that. Would be nice to have some kind of requirement...maybe minimum 5 years as captain?
Gonna try to do it this way (Goalies are exempt from the rule).


Mario Lemieux - Wayne Gretzky - Bill Cook
Mark Messier - Jean Beliveau - Jaromir Jagr
Ted Lindsay - Bobby Clarke - Milt Schmidt
Joe Sakic - Newsy Lalonde - Steve Yzerman
Joe Malone

Nicklas Lidstrom - Ray Bourque
Denis Potvin - Chris Chelios
Slava Fetisov - Pierre Pilote
Sprague Cleghorn

Charlie Gardiner
Bill Durnan
Roy Worters

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I would take Durnan myself... as Charlie Gardiner's backup.
Oh, you.

Gardiner's a good choice - and I realize that Durnan dominated during a war-starved era. I'm mainly fascinated by the ambidexterity.

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Gardiner's a good choice - and I realize that Durnan dominated during a war-starved era. I'm mainly fascinated by the ambidexterity...
Indeed, and interesting gloves. Combination blocker/trapper... of the lot though Id be going with Luongo. Mebbe Shrimp Worters as my backup. Like Laurel & Hardy. Mess with the opponents heads.

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Teams including Montreal had a tradition of picking captains by coach and managerial staff.It was not a popularity choice.I mean Beleveu was a great choice but in room in was not the number 1 choice.With Orr I cannot factualy point the reason only rumours.Maybe someone can tell us the reason.I mean Howe was a captain for a short period

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The greatest captain of all time is conspicuously absent. #19
nah, he's right there at the bottom. my 17th forward.

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Henri Richard over Peca, definitely.

And if you want to use the defensive version of Yzerman, he could fit on the checking line, as well.
i'd like to say i was trying to put guys at positions they played, so messier at LW and peca at RW because each guy spent some years there. but it's not like i didn't cheat with espo on the first line. and also totally forgot that yzerman also counts as a RWer. still, i would not want to play a line of gainey, carbo, and peca. some tough, determined SOBs right there.



also, would love to hear the rumours about why orr was never captain. i always just assumed it's because why would they strip it from bucyk?

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Can we make a "best team that features no captains" roster to compare?

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Can we make a "best team that features no captains" roster to compare?
Going to have a hard time finding centers that aren't hofers or future hofers

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olympic style 23 man roster:

esposito gretzky howe
messier beliveau richard
lindsay lemieux jagr
gainey clarke peca
sakic

potvin bourque
lidstrom chelios
cleghorn stevens
pilote

gardiner
hainsworth
luongo
okay, now do it with 4 centers instead of 7

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Esposito makes LW on two lists here when he never played LW in his life

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Can we make a "best team that features no captains" roster to compare?
Hull Bobby -- Morenz Howie -- Lafleur Guy
Mahovlich Frank -- Boucher Frank -- Bossy Mike
Joliat Aurele -- Nighbor Frank -- Geoffrion Bernie
Moore Dickie -- Trottier Bryan -- Kurri Jari

Orr Bobby -- Shore Eddie
Coffey Paul -- Robinson Larry
Cameron Harry -- Horton Tim

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