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10-18-2013, 07:30 PM
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Nucks-Oilers-Avs

Vancouver gets

Yakupov and Barrie

Avs gets

Edler, Schroeder (or a 1st) and a 2nd

Oilers get

Ryan O'Reilly

Seems to help all 3 teams, Oilers need a top 6 center like ROR badly, Avs need a top pairing D man like Edler and Nucks need youth to support it's older core and scoring outside of the Sedins. Avs are loaded with skilled forwards as are the Oilers and Van is loaded with D man so all teams trading from strength to bring in what they need.

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Not to be outdone by the Jets, the Nucks have decided to concoct their own 3-way trade to take away one of the young talented players on the Avs roster. I'll let the peanut gallery decide the fate of this one, noting that ROR is absolutely not for sale.

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Vancouver gets

Yakupov and Barrie

Avs gets

Edler, Schroeder (or a 1st) and a 2nd

Oilers get

Ryan O'Reilly

Seems to help all 3 teams, Oilers need a top 6 center like ROR badly, Avs need a top pairing D man like Edler and Nucks need youth to support it's older core and scoring outside of the Sedins. Avs are loaded with skilled forwards as are the Oilers and Van is loaded with D man so all teams trading from strength to bring in what they need.
Gagner is in Edmonton right now get clearance to play, and Arcobello has been a ppg player this year as a backup 2nd center for Gagner. Center is not Edmonton's issue. It's defense.

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Yakupov will never ever play in Vancouver. Ever.

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Not to be outdone by the Jets, the Nucks have decided to concoct their own 3-way trade to take away one of the young talented players on the Avs roster. I'll let the peanut gallery decide the fate of this one, noting that ROR is absolutely not for sale.
Yet your getting a #1D man with size and hits hard and puts up around 50pts....

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Gagner is in Edmonton right now get clearance to play, and Arcobello has been a ppg player this year as a backup 2nd center for Gagner. Center is not Edmonton's issue. It's defense.
Your small in the top 6 and ROR helps that with bring grit and strong defense play, you can then move Gagner to help out your D while getting bigger in the top 6 and being harder to play against.

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Yet your getting a #1D man with size and hits hard and puts up around 50pts....
If Edler were a #1 dman he wouldn't be available, he's a good #2 that would probably help out our blue line a lot. But at the expense of ROR he's not worth it.

We can't afford to trade any of our young core right now, even if it means we can't fill the defensive hole we have.

And I don't even have to mention that adding Barrie makes this even worse for us.

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Not to be outdone by the Jets, the Nucks have decided to concoct their own 3-way trade to take away one of the young talented players on the Avs roster. I'll let the peanut gallery decide the fate of this one, noting that ROR is absolutely not for sale.
At least Radar for Edler makes some sense. Duchene for every other piece in that trade wouldn't have been fair.

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Preferring to want to keep O'Reilly and Barrie isn't an attack on Edler.

I would think O'Reilly is a player Roy wants to build around.

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Yakupov will never ever play in Vancouver. Ever.
But what if he wants to be the new Bure?

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Vancouver gets

Yakupov and Barrie

Avs gets

Edler, Schroeder (or a 1st) and a 2nd

Oilers get

Ryan O'Reilly

Seems to help all 3 teams, Oilers need a top 6 center like ROR badly, Avs need a top pairing D man like Edler and Nucks need youth to support it's older core and scoring outside of the Sedins. Avs are loaded with skilled forwards as are the Oilers and Van is loaded with D man so all teams trading from strength to bring in what they need.

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If Edler were a #1 dman he wouldn't be available, he's a good #2 that would probably help out our blue line a lot. But at the expense of ROR he's not worth it.

We can't afford to trade any of our young core right now, even if it means we can't fill the defensive hole we have.

And I don't even have to mention that adding Barrie makes this even worse for us.
That's fine but Edler is a #1 D man he's just not Elite like Weber, he's been very good so far this season and the only reason why Vancouver could trade him is because we still have Garrison, Hamhuis, Bieksa and Tanev has really stepped up this year and Corrado ready but no room on a stacked Blue line. Vancouver needs are scoring throughout the line up and getting younger while staying a playoff team. I honestly understand not wanting to part with ROR I would love to have him on the Nucks! Just thought with Duchene, Landeskog, MacKinnon, Stastny, Downie ect you cold afford to move a piece to bring back a D man like Edler to help an area in need of help like your blue line

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Yet your getting a #1D man with size and hits hard and puts up around 50pts....
I have watched Edler quite a bit...no, he is not a #1 defensman. His game is still filled with mistakes and inconsistencies. Some nights, yes, he looks like a #1 defensman, other nights, absolutely not. He has all the skills to be a consistent #1 defensman, but I'm honestly not sure if he'll ever be able to put it all together. I honestly don't even consider him the best defensman on the Canucks. Despite his stuggles this year, I'll still take Hamhuis over him.




As to your proposal, no thank you. There is no indication at all that O'Reilly is available, he's looked very good on Duchene's wing. Trading O'Reilly and Barrie for Edler+ is an absolute no in my opinion. Would Edler be a massive upgrade? Yes. But we're also losing an incredibly talented forward that we cannot afford to lose, and a young defensman that should not be a available at all. While Edler is currently way better than Barrie, adding a defensman then trading Barrie is counter productive. A late 2nd round pick really does nothing for us, and Schroeder would have no spot on our current roster at all.

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Preferring to want to keep O'Reilly and Barrie isn't an attack on Edler.

I would think O'Reilly is a player Roy wants to build around.
Agreed

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Yakupov will never ever play in Vancouver. Ever.
His favorite team was Vancouver and Detroit

And I'd rather have yak over orielly

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I wouldn't trade Yak yet, but if I had to, it'd be for a defenseman, not a #2C.

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So we trade Yak for Ror...

Pass.

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I have watched Edler quite a bit...no, he is not a #1 defensman. His game is still filled with mistakes and inconsistencies. Some nights, yes, he looks like a #1 defensman, other nights, absolutely not. He has all the skills to be a consistent #1 defensman, but I'm honestly not sure if he'll ever be able to put it all together. I honestly don't even consider him the best defensman on the Canucks. Despite his stuggles this year, I'll still take Hamhuis over him.




As to your proposal, no thank you. There is no indication at all that O'Reilly is available, he's looked very good on Duchene's wing. Trading O'Reilly and Barrie for Edler+ is an absolute no in my opinion. Would Edler be a massive upgrade? Yes. But we're also losing an incredibly talented forward that we cannot afford to lose, and a young defensman that should not be a available at all. While Edler is currently way better than Barrie, adding a defensman then trading Barrie is counter productive. A late 2nd round pick really does nothing for us, and Schroeder would have no spot on our current roster at all.
I disagree on Edler this season him and Garrison have been our best this season even Torts was giving Edler rave reviews. I understand not wanting to lose a player like ROR in many ways it's like us trading Kesler, that type of player holds a lot of value to a team and why we pick Horvat in this past draft but landing top pairing D man like Edler who puts up points around 50pts and on a great contract won't come cheap, I don't see value as being off but I do understanding not wanting to move certain players.

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Pass.
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I disagree on Edler this season him and Garrison have been our best this season even Torts was giving Edler rave reviews. I understand not wanting to lose a player like ROR in many ways it's like us trading Kesler, that type of player holds a lot of value to a team and why we pick Horvat in this past draft but landing top pairing D man like Edler who puts up points around 50pts and on a great contract won't come cheap, I don't see value as being off but I do in standing not wanting to move certain players.
Edler hasn't put up 50 points a single season. His career average is 40 points and if you remove the first two years of Edlers career he's a 45 point guy. This while playing on a top team in the West that feasted on a very weak division.

It's very doubtful he'd put up 50 points on the Avs playing on a team without a Sedin led power play. He'd probably not even reach 40 points.

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I disagree on Edler this season him and Garrison have been our best this season even Torts was giving Edler rave reviews. I understand not wanting to lose a player like ROR in many ways it's like us trading Kesler, that type of player holds a lot of value to a team and why we pick Horvat in this past draft but landing top pairing D man like Edler who puts up points around 50pts and on a great contract won't come cheap, I don't see value as being off but I do understanding not wanting to move certain players.
I'd like to point out that "this season" for Alex Edler is five games.

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But what if he wants to be the new Bure?
then he can go to Florida or New York

You guys can have your shot when he's an FA in 5 years...

Y U no GIVE US SCHNIEDS?!

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Edler hasn't put up 50 points a single season. His career average is 40 points and if you remove the first two years of Edlers career he's a 45 point guy. This while playing on a top team in the West that feasted on a very weak division.

It's very doubtful he'd put up 50 points on the Avs playing on a team without a Sedin led power play. He'd probably not even reach 40 points.
I did around, and your point about him not producing on the Avs because he plays on the Nucks is a load of crap go ask Raymond and Grabner how their doing away from feeding off Nucks stars, Avs have a boat load of talent for Edler to feed the puck to. No to the deal? That's fine but saying a bunch bs like Edler needs the Sedins to produce points is BS.

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