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10-25-2013, 07:01 PM
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to edm
1st 2014 & 2015
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to tor
1st 2014
yakupov

Yakupov gets a nice change of scenery hes clearly not wanted in edmonton. Edmonton gets a top goalie and very good top pairing defensmen in gunnarson. Everyone wins

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10-25-2013, 07:03 PM
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to edm
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to tor
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Yakupov gets a nice change of scenery hes clearly not wanted in edmonton. Edmonton gets a top goalie and very good top pairing defensmen in gunnarson. Everyone wins
No, the Oilers definitely don't win.

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10-25-2013, 07:04 PM
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Terrible for EDM.

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10-25-2013, 07:04 PM
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to edm
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to tor
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yakupov

Yakupov gets a nice change of scenery hes clearly not wanted in edmonton. Edmonton gets a top goalie and very good top pairing defensmen in gunnarson. Everyone wins
No I don't think so
Dubnyk is playing great again and their is no need for Reiner
Gunnerson just no
And no need for 2 20-30 overall picks

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10-25-2013, 07:06 PM
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If you want yakupov it has to start with PhaneuforKesselorKadri or JVR

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10-25-2013, 07:27 PM
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If you want yakupov it has to start with PhaneuforKesselorKadri or JVR
ok relax there. OP is terrible but edmonton is hoping that yakupov turns into a player like kessel. in dreamland if edmonton wanted kessel it would a start with yakupov and then start adding.

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10-25-2013, 07:30 PM
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If you want yakupov it has to start with PhaneuforKesselorKadri or JVR
Oh let's not be silly. There's a difference between our two way players and your one-dimensional press box.

Leafs don't need Yakupov, lets call it a day.

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10-25-2013, 07:32 PM
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Oh let's not be silly. There's a difference between our two way players and your one-dimensional press box.

Leafs don't need Yakupov, lets call it a day.
Kessel 2way that's what you get from leafs fans I guess

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10-25-2013, 07:43 PM
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Kessel 2way that's what you get from leafs fans I guess
Oilers fan who says what he hears and not what he sees. You have great grammar to go along with it.

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10-25-2013, 07:48 PM
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Toronto doesn't need anymore wingers.

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No. God, why do so many Toronto fans not understand that we don't want their spare parts?

Would you do Kadri and 1st for Dubnyk, Nick Schultz, a 1st, and a 2nd?

Stop trying to trade for Yakupov. We don't want your goalie, we don't want an average d-man, and we're done with collecting picks.

We'll keep Yakupov or trade him for a top-pairing d-man. That's it.

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10-25-2013, 07:57 PM
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If you want yakupov it has to start with PhaneuforKesselorKadri or JVR
Start with Kessel?

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10-25-2013, 08:00 PM
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to edm
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yakupov

Yakupov gets a nice change of scenery hes clearly not wanted in edmonton. Edmonton gets a top goalie and very good top pairing defensmen in gunnarson. Everyone wins
1) based on stats--Reimer is not that much of an upgrade over DD. There is a reason why TO went out and got a new guy
2) Oilers have enough guys like Gunnarson
3) So a former number one and a pick that could be top ten for two mid range first rounders?

Love how much hate there is for Yakupov right now

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10-25-2013, 08:02 PM
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1) based on stats--Reimer is not that much of an upgrade over DD. There is a reason why TO went out and got a new guy
2) Oilers have enough guys like Gunnarson
3) So a former number one and a pick that could be top ten for two mid range first rounders?

Love how much hate there is for Yakupov right now
The question is, is there a reason why you didn't?

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Oilers fan who says what he hears and not what he sees. You have great grammar to go along with it.
He may say what he hears, but if you tell me that Kessel is a two-way forward, I may have to claim that you're guilty of the same crime.

Nail Yakupov is going to command far more than what Erik Johnson returned from the Avs two years ago just due to draft pedigree. You need to take into effect that Yakupov was on pace for 30 goals as an 18 year old.

These Reimer, Gunnarsson, Kulemin proposals are embarrassing.

Regardless of how many 1st round picks you throw in, the Oilers are done adding future pieces. They require players who are able to make an impact now. And trading what was/is intended to be a sure thing for second-hand support players and magic beans doesn't make the Oilers a better team now and likely not ever.

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The question is, is there a reason why you didn't?
Schneider (VAN) goes East
Bernier (LA) goes East

What do LA and VAN have in common?

Oh right. They're both in the same division as Edmonton.

There you go.

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Oh let's not be silly. There's a difference between our two way players and your one-dimensional press box.

Leafs don't need Yakupov, lets call it a day.
Maybe when he at the same age as Kadri and just breaking into the NHL you can say this . How many years after his draft did it take Kadri to make it to the NHL ? I guess Kadri and Yakupov are the same age right ? Leafs fan , their prospects are still developing when they are 22 every one elses are never going to improve , even if they played in the NHL as 18 years olds . I guess you should give your one dimensional defence man away ;;; Gardiner away instead of thinking the Flyers should give you a young Centre men with upside . Same logic .

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10-25-2013, 08:21 PM
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He may say what he hears, but if you tell me that Kessel is a two-way forward, I may have to claim that you're guilty of the same crime.

Nail Yakupov is going to command far more than what Erik Johnson returned from the Avs two years ago just due to draft pedigree. You need to take into effect that Yakupov was on pace for 30 goals as an 18 year old.

These Reimer, Gunnarsson, Kulemin proposals are embarrassing.

Regardless of how many 1st round picks you throw in, the Oilers are done adding future pieces. They require players who are able to make an impact now. And trading what was/is intended to be a sure thing for second-hand support players and magic beans doesn't make the Oilers a better team now and likely not ever.
Agreed it's annoying, but Kessel actually has developed somewhat of a two-way game. There's been instances where he covers for pinched d-men and is the second guy back. But to say that Yakupov requires Kessel in return is a flat out joke. A proven superstar who is at a ppg pace for the past two seasons and on pace for another one vs. Eakins whipping boy? I don't think so.

And like people said about Kessel, until Yakupov hits those 30 goals/season, he's not a 30 goal scorer, and that's by fact. The difference between Yakupov and Johnson though, is Johnson is a proven player that is a very good two-way defenceman, where Yakupov's one good season proves he's had one good season in 48 games. Look how MPS did after his first successful season.

So as garbage as Leafs fans proposals are for Yakupov (yes, I know how stupid they get), Oilers fans responses are just as garbage.

Like I said, we don't need him in our press box.

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10-25-2013, 08:23 PM
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Schneider (VAN) goes East
Bernier (LA) goes East

What do LA and VAN have in common?

Oh right. They're both in the same division as Edmonton.

There you go.
Still waiting for the reason why you didn't submit an offer....

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10-25-2013, 08:24 PM
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Still waiting for the reason why you didn't submit an offer....
Did you watch the draft?

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Terrible for Edmonton, they give the 2 best assets in this trade only to get a slight upgrade in goal and a dime-a-dozen Dman.

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10-25-2013, 08:27 PM
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Why does Toronto want yakupov for anything significant... is toronto in the market for a young guy with potential at a position of depth on the team? Now need to fill 2 spots we don't address but finally get a young winger going through growing pains on a team with Kessel Lupul JVR Clarkson Kulemin Raymond all too play the wing..

even if the value was there why make the trade based on positions alone

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This is terrible value for the Oilers and the Leafs dont need another winger.

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10-25-2013, 08:37 PM
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Two mid round 1st rounders, a goalie who might be a downgrade and a #4 d-man for a 1st overall pick and a potential top 5 pick?

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Yeah. I don't think that's going to work for Edmonton.

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I believe people undervalue Reimer. A lot of people are going to be surprised when he leaves Toronto and proves to be a talented goalie who can lead a team. Having said that, this trade is bad for both teams. Toronto doesn't need a player like Yakupov, so why would they trade away pieces for a hopefuly prospect, when they could try to go after immediate help and adress their problems. edmonton also thinks that they could get more value for Yakupov, but the problem is that all his skill may not translate into the nhl and he could end up never being the player people hope for him to be.

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I believe people undervalue Reimer.
Stop.

Think about the other team for a moment.

Now reconsider who might be undervalued in that proposal.

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