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07-20-2005, 09:54 PM
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Stevens and Daneyko were just scary back in the mid to late 90's.

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Stevens and Daneyko were just scary back in the mid to late 90's.
Wasn't it usually Niedermayer-Daneyko ???

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07-20-2005, 10:37 PM
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Bobby Orr and whoever he played with?

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Wasn't it usually Niedermayer-Daneyko ???
Its hard to say. They mixed it up quite a bit over the 90's but when Stevens and Daneyko were out it was to shut down the opposing teams top line. Niedermayer played with Stevens, Daneyko, White and Martin over the years. Maybe even Driver.

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Who did Doug Harvey play with?
Jean-Guy Talbot, I think. I might be wrong.

Guy Lapointe is seriously underrated on these boards.

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Who did Doug Harvey play with?
In the beginning of his career Harvey was paired with Butch Bouchard after the 1955-56 season his primary defensive partners were either Tom Johnson, Jean-Guy Talbot or Dollard St.Laurent. Bernie Geoffrion played with Harvey on the Power-Play only.

Other Defensive pairings of the "Golden" era:

Red Wings: Red Kelly and Benny Woit,
Marcel Pronovost and Bob Goldham

Chicago: Pierre Pilote and Moose Vasko
Jack Evans and Reg Fleming

Toronto: Jim Thomson and Gus Mortson
Tim Horton and Allan Stanley

Boston: Bill Quackenbush and Leo Boivin
Fern Flanan and Jim Morrison

Montreal: Butch Bouchard and Doug Harvey
Tom Johnson and Dollard St.Laurent

New York: Bill Gadsby and Ivan Irwin (Bathgate on the PP)
Harry Howell and Lou Fontianto


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07-21-2005, 09:24 AM
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Jean-Guy Talbot, I think. I might be wrong.

Guy Lapointe is seriously underrated on these boards.
I think most realize how good Lapointe was. He was usually paired with the #4 guy though, be it Nyrop,Engblom,Chartraw,Langway depending on the year. Always one of my favorites. At their best, Lapointe/Nyrop was an exceptional pairing, it's just that the other one was better.

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I wish I had tapes of the late-70's Boston-Montreal finals because I thought 19 was with 2, and 18 and 5 were together. The play is under review.

Meantime: Orr and Park for 10 games in Nov., 1975, was an incredible stretch. Park's arrival in the Esposito trade coincided exactly with Orr's return from knee surgery. They lost the first game at Vancouver, 4-2, after giving up a pair of breakaway goals to Ron "Twilight" Sedlbauer, then went unbeaten in the next nine (6-0-3) before Orr's left knee gave out for the final time, leading to his escort to Chicago by the Eagle. The Bruins hit 50 percent on the powerplay, and Orr went 5-13-18 and plus-10 in 10 GP. Then the team was Park's.

Honorable mention goes to Ray Bourque and Gord Kluzak, circa. 87-88, the reason Boston finally got over the Montreal hurdle and made the finals that year. Kluzak's quick feet and imaginative play off the left point gave the Bruins an added dimension that made coping with Bourque in his prime almost impossible.

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07-21-2005, 09:57 AM
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I wish I had tapes of the late-70's Boston-Montreal finals because I thought 19 was with 2, and 18 and 5 were together. The play is under review.

Meantime: Orr and Park for 10 games in Nov., 1975, was an incredible stretch. Park's arrival in the Esposito trade coincided exactly with Orr's return from knee surgery. They lost the first game at Vancouver, 4-2, after giving up a pair of breakaway goals to Ron "Twilight" Sedlbauer, then went unbeaten in the next nine (6-0-3) before Orr's left knee gave out for the final time, leading to his escort to Chicago by the Eagle. The Bruins hit 50 percent on the powerplay, and Orr went 5-13-18 and plus-10 in 10 GP. Then the team was Park's.

Honorable mention goes to Ray Bourque and Gord Kluzak, circa. 87-88, the reason Boston finally got over the Montreal hurdle and made the finals that year. Kluzak's quick feet and imaginative play off the left point gave the Bruins an added dimension that made coping with Bourque in his prime almost impossible.
Doc, that may have happened, but Bowman would change things up often. For the majority though, it was 18/19. Sometimes he'd shorten the bench and rotate 3 guys. If you don't want to go by my quickly becoming unstable memory, check out Robinson For The Defense and he speaks of the pleasure of playing with Savard and little plays they'd work out. Doc, how can you remember the late 70's anyways, you must have been drinking to dull the pain. Kidding Doc,really.

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I'll list some recent pairings...

Lidstrom-Murphy
Leetch-Beukeboom
Stevens-Rafalski
Bourque-Foote
Hatcher-Matvichuk

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Orr and Potvin in the 76 Canada Cup.

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Pierre Pilote & Moose Vasko!

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I donīt think they played together, at least for many years, since Ragulin was a lot older than Gusev.

Ragulin was the corner stone of the Soviet defense of the 60īs with Viktor Kuzkin and Vitali Davydov. Gusev was more of a 70īs player. The "Big 4" of Gusev, Valeri Vasilyev, Gennady Tsygankov and Vladimir Luchenko were the cornerstone of the Soviet defense of the 70's. Of course later in that decade came in players such as Bilyaletdinov, Pervukhin, Sergei Babinov and Vyacheslav Fetisov.
That's right, not for a very long time, but they played together.

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Robinson - Savard
J.C. Tremblay - Lappieerre
Orr - Awrey
Coffee- Lowe

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Everone seems to remember Bourque and Adam Foote, but when Bourque was in his prime, he had a terrific year (87-88) teamed up with Gord Kluzak.

Kluzak had monster size for his time, good offensive skills, and despite his knee problems, didnt lack for mobility.

For pure defensive prowess, the Rod Langway/Brian Engblom pairing was very strong for a few years in Montreal and their early seasons in Washington before Engblom was traded.

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Leetch and Zubov did play together on even strength too as I recall, but I could be wrong. This was Keenan coaching after all, so I doubt they had that strict pairings anyway.

(Short off topic Keenan story. Cristian Ruutu (center, Sabres, Hawks, famous for being traded for Dominik Hasek) told that while with Hawks, he had a bad shift but when his next shift came up, Keenan yelled the names of players for next shift as usual. So he got up when he heard "Christian" and sat down when Iron Mike continued "DAVE Christian, DAVE!")

I'd also like to point that Hatcher - Matvichuk was pretty impressive at times.

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