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10-26-2013, 06:07 AM
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David Booth

A guy that has been scratched for Andrew Alberts on forward, and looks like the first on Vancouver to be in Torts' doghouse. Just wondering what other teams would give up for Booth.

I believe he can get back to a 20 goal player, but not in Vancouver.

He's had glimpses of hope, but then gets injured the next shift.

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10-26-2013, 06:12 AM
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At this point he'd clear waivers. The only way to move him in a trade would be as the filler part of a quality package for a rental from a team that is rebuilding and can carry him.

Nucks best hope is that he gets healthy and starts scoring again so his value is above zero.

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10-26-2013, 06:15 AM
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A guy that has been scratched for Andrew Alberts on forward, and looks like the first on Vancouver to be in Torts' doghouse. Just wondering what other teams would give up for Booth.

I believe he can get back to a 20 goal player but not in Vancouver.

He's had glimpses of hope, but then gets injured the next shift.
Woah, lets be honest with these other fans. Booth has zero hockey sense and a terrible shot. He will never crack 20 goals again. He has negative trade value based on his contract. I think he's closer to being out of the league than hitting 20 goals.

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10-26-2013, 07:47 AM
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Booth for Versteeg.

One problem for another.

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10-26-2013, 09:17 AM
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Booth for Versteeg.

One problem for another.
yeah just...

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10-26-2013, 09:37 AM
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Booth for Samuelsson might be a good trade.

Sammy has NTC but I am hoping he can waive to go to one of his formal team.

Only problem is DET has no cap space.

So it has to be either

1. Vancouver eats the cap difference

or

2. DET can add another player like Eaves/Tootoo but I am not sure about VAN's roster situation.

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Booth for Samuelsson might be a good trade.

Sammy has NTC but I am hoping he can waive to go to one of his formal team.

Only problem is DET has no cap space.

So it has to be either

1. Vancouver eats the cap difference

or

2. DET can add another player like Eaves/Tootoo but I am not sure about VAN's roster situation.
Discussed in another thread, but you are right, Canucks are at 50 contracts...

Samuelsson + Tootoo/Abdelkater
For
Booth + Anthony/Sauve

Makes some sense for both teams.

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Vancouver would have to accept back an undesirable contract to move him. Or do a cap dump where they include a desirable asset and get basically nothing in return.

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10-26-2013, 10:01 AM
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Discussed in another thread, but you are right, Canucks are at 50 contracts...

Samuelsson + Tootoo/Abdelkater
For
Booth + Anthony/Sauve

Makes some sense for both teams.
53 but four players (Horvat, Shinkaruk, Gaunce and McEneny) slide so we can still take on one additional contract.

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10-26-2013, 10:07 AM
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Booth for Versteeg would be an interesting deal.

Can't imagine Florida wants Booth back so I guess you'd have to argue that getting out of the extra year on Versteeg's deal makes it worthwhile for them - and for the Canucks I guess you are just switching Booth out for a different player you will buy out (at the cost of a few more million) at the end of the year if things don't work out.

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10-26-2013, 11:05 AM
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I dunno. Booth aint that bad. He has no place on our team but could very well provide something for a struggling team . We should cough up a low prospect and a 3rd rounder to a team to take Booth.

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10-26-2013, 12:43 PM
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I dunno. Booth aint that bad. He has no place on our team but could very well provide something for a struggling team . We should cough up a low prospect and a 3rd rounder to a team to take Booth.
Booth is that bad. That is why he doesn't have a place on this team. Torterella tried him on every line, even with the Sedins, and we get the same results:

He can't pass the puck; he can't read the play. He can't beat defensemen with speed anymore. He takes it down the wing and skates the puck into the boards, occasionally making it far enough to throw a bad angle shot on net or a "pass" (looks the same as his shot) through the crease. He sucks defensively as once again, he can't read the play. He routinely turns it over on the breakout with inaccurate/ill-conceived passes.

To his credit, he wins board battles. He goes north. He will chip and chase. That is about it. He generally turns potential hockey plays into battles for the puck. He may be a pretty good 4th liner.

On top of all that he's injured yet again. I think his last injury took his speed from him. He doesn't have the smarts to compensate as his body fails him.

The question isn't what Booth is worth, but what 4.25 million in cap space for a year and a half is worth. The Canucks will be buying him out in the summer because they don't have the extra assets to pay someone for hat kind of cap space.

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10-26-2013, 12:45 PM
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Canucks dont have until the offseason to get rid of booth.

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10-26-2013, 01:07 PM
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I dunno. Booth aint that bad. He has no place on our team but could very well provide something for a struggling team . We should cough up a low prospect and a 3rd rounder to a team to take Booth.
Apparently this was the Canucks' bottom 9 last night?

Higgins-Santorelli-Richardson
Sestito-Welsh-Kassian
Archibald-Pelletier-Weber

I get that Hansen, Burrows, and Booth were injured...but if Booth can't find a spot and succeed on a team that by the looks of it desperately needs scoring depth, I doubt he'll find a place anywhere. No team will take on Booth and that contract. You can find better guys in free agency at a fraction of the cost.

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10-26-2013, 01:13 PM
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Apparently this was the Canucks' bottom 9 last night?

Higgins-Santorelli-Richardson
Sestito-Welsh-Kassian
Archibald-Pelletier-Weber

I get that Hansen, Burrows, and Booth were injured...but if Booth can't find a spot and succeed on a team that by the looks of it desperately needs scoring depth, I doubt he'll find a place anywhere. No team will take on Booth and that contract. You can find better guys in free agency at a fraction of the cost.
Booth was injured too (not like that helps his value either).

He was scratched for 1 game, presumably to send a message after he was providing 4th line quality while playing on the 3rd. Booth then injured himself in the game he returned to the lineup (on the 3rd again).

Rogaine, I don't think the Canucks have a choice in waiting until the offseason. No team wants what Booth is for another year at 4.25. To cap teams that is wasted space; to other teams that is wasted money.

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10-26-2013, 01:13 PM
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Maybe someone takes a chance on him and hopes he turns it around. Maybe a team like Phoenix, Nashville or the Islanders? He has proven he can score in the league and provide offense. These teams have cap space too. He is out of the spotlight in these places and can focus on finding his game again.

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10-26-2013, 01:40 PM
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You can have Ryane Clowe

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Apparently this was the Canucks' bottom 9 last night?

Higgins-Santorelli-Richardson
Sestito-Welsh-Kassian
Archibald-Pelletier-Weber

I get that Hansen, Burrows, and Booth were injured...but if Booth can't find a spot and succeed on a team that by the looks of it desperately needs scoring depth, I doubt he'll find a place anywhere. No team will take on Booth and that contract. You can find better guys in free agency at a fraction of the cost.
We are willing to PAY a low prospect and a 3rd rounder for a team to take his contract.

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We are willing to PAY a low prospect and a 3rd rounder for a team to take his contract.
Yeah, a low prospect(preumably who has minimal to no chance of making the NHL) and a 3rd don't have that much value. You're asking a team to do you a huge favor and take 4.25m in deadweight. A) You have to find a team that has that much capspace, and B) the teams that do have that capspace might not be budget teams, but they might not be willing to pay 4.25m a year just for a lousy prospect and a 3rd. For instance, using the Avs as an example, Roy said we won't be taking on bad contracts for other teams, even though I believe we don't have an internal cap. The Canucks are pretty much stuck with Booth unless you take a bad contract back or offer an incentive that is actually worth something.

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10-26-2013, 02:18 PM
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Booth for Versteeg.

One problem for another.
Done.

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You can have Ryane Clowe
We knew how bad he was in San Jose. Still shocked NJ payed that for a guy whose greatest production comes in the form of penalty minutes.

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Would Booth + Van's first for Stempniak work? We eat the contract and give Van a much better player and for that Van gives up its first.

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Would Booth + Van's first for Stempniak work? We eat the contract and give Van a much better player and for that Van gives up its first.
I'd only do something like that if there were another trade lined up for which we needed the cap space (Stastny or something like that). It's an unlikely scenario.

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I'd only do something like that if there were another trade lined up for which we needed the cap space (Stastny or something like that). It's an unlikely scenario.
Fair enough but I don't think it is that big of overpayment as I think Stempniak should return a 2nd + mid pick if he keeps this play up.

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