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11-01-2013, 02:36 PM
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Doesn't play him in the last 2 minutes of the game, when the Habs are up. While every other d-man got ice time.
I have seen most of the Habs games this year and have not noticed him nOT playing the last 2 minutes of any games.

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11-01-2013, 02:41 PM
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What makes you think Therrien doesn't "support" Subban?

Just because he doesn't want to play the media's game and get quoted in the headlines doesn't mean he doesn't support his player. When talking to the media in Montreal Toronto NYR Phillie etc the less said the better for a coach.
Well he has no problems criticizing him in the media so why can't he support him too?
Would be interesting to see how Therrien responds to the same question but about Price.

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11-01-2013, 02:43 PM
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Well he has no problems criticizing him in the media so why can't he support him too?
Would be interesting to see how Therrien responds to the same question but about Price.
When did he criticize him in the media? Therrien usually doesn't point players directly.

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11-01-2013, 02:45 PM
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Thanks for the link.. Interesting read.



Would it kill MT to show at least a little support for Subban like Larry Robinson, David Poile and Lindy Ruff did for their players like the article alluded to.
wow what the **** I never seen this article before
I officially want MT fired.

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11-01-2013, 02:46 PM
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I have seen most of the Habs games this year and have not noticed him nOT playing the last 2 minutes of any games.

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11-01-2013, 03:04 PM
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And he was awarded the Norris trophy on account of reverse-racism (in a context that doesn't involve Team Canada, obviously, but just as a general point).

What's next, other players will be left out because of language?

What a slippery slope.
Reverse rasism is a myth perpetuated by people with no grasp on the concept of actual racism. He won because he was the best defenseman in the league. You don't leave a top 5 defenseman in the league off your national roster, period.

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11-01-2013, 03:08 PM
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The reservations about Subban are overblown. Which NHL GM wouldn't want Subban if he were available? I can't account for those preferences unless someone in charge of Team Canada prefers vanilla to chocolate.

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Reverse rasism is a myth perpetuated by people with no grasp on the concept of actual racism.
The use of the term to exaggerate a different point doesn't mean that one is subscribing to it, nor validating it in some way.

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11-01-2013, 03:10 PM
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When did he criticize him in the media? Therrien usually doesn't point players directly.
Criticized him after the CGY game. A reporter said PK said they lost because of him and his stupid penalty, Therrien said he agreed (pretty foolish to put the complete loss of a 60 minute game on a penalty. Not to mention we weren't even leading and the whole team was garbage until PK decide to take full control of the game).
Versus CLB, he said we let the Blue Jackets come back because of a pinch from a Dman (PK) without mentioning that Eller had covered for him but stayed flatfooted at the blueline.

Factor this with the way he used PK, the way he lashed out at him, the way he responded to one of his question. That's why people are saying they have doubts as to how he's being handled.

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11-01-2013, 03:11 PM
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The use of the term to exaggerate a different point doesn't mean that one is subscribing to it, or validating it in some way.
What point are you trying to make?

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11-01-2013, 03:14 PM
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What point are you trying to make?
I already made it, a couple of pages ago.

Let's not dwell on semantics.

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11-01-2013, 03:32 PM
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Brian Wilde just wrote an essay sharing some of his inside views on Subban. Quite interesting.

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11-01-2013, 03:39 PM
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Brian Wilde just wrote an essay sharing some of his inside views on Subban. Quite interesting.
Wow. Very interesting article...

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11-01-2013, 03:44 PM
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Brian Wilde just wrote an essay sharing some of his inside views on Subban. Quite interesting.
I'm not the biggest Brian Wilde fan but that's a fantastic article.

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11-01-2013, 03:51 PM
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Wow. Very interesting article...
Yeah it really was a very good read. What seemingly started out as fans noticing MT not playing PK in crucial situations has now started getting media attention which isn't good. I only hope all this BS doesn't eventually run Subban out of town but if it does I can't really blame him for wanting out.

If only his name was David Desharnais or Francis Bouillon instead.

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Brian Wilde just wrote an essay sharing some of his inside views on Subban. Quite interesting.
Pretty spot on.

I love the ending. What is the downside to playing PK more really?

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11-01-2013, 03:52 PM
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Pretty spot on.

I love the ending. What is the downside to playing PK more really?
Don't you know? PK "Norris" Subban is a "defensive liability"

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11-01-2013, 03:58 PM
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Don't you know? PK "Norris" Subban is a "defensive liability"
That's true -- PK tends to put Therrien on the defensive.

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11-01-2013, 04:00 PM
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Brian Wilde just wrote an essay sharing some of his inside views on Subban. Quite interesting.
Well done. Took the words right out of my mouth. I can understand the treatment around the league, but he's treated like crap by his own team.

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11-01-2013, 04:00 PM
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Pretty spot on.

I love the ending. What is the downside to playing PK more really?
I can't see any downside whatsoever. MT though seems to think there are downsides unfortunately and for reasons only he knows it seems since no one else does.

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11-01-2013, 04:04 PM
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Brian Wilde just wrote an essay sharing some of his inside views on Subban. Quite interesting.
Yet, it's apparently just in our heads, internet forum drama...

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11-01-2013, 04:28 PM
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Truth is though, in the curious case of P.K. Subban, he can't get any praise anywhere.

Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/the-curio...#ixzz2jQpJlatF
But but but, I thought it was only hf drama ?

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11-01-2013, 04:32 PM
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Writer from the Globe and Mail had this to say yesterday on the NHL network:

His thoughts:

We are at a transition/in-between awkward stage

Briere move made no sense

Montreal Canadiens are a mediocre team with a top five goalie and top five blueliner.

We have one and a half good lines

We have two and a half real defensemen

Our coach is misusing his best blueliner is mystifyingly strange ways and many people in the community do not understand this at all.


I have to say, I agreed with much of what the guy had to say.

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11-01-2013, 04:33 PM
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Maybe some dumb putz at the G&M doesn't see it, but do you really think the all star coaches on Hockey Canada payroll can't tell that Therrien is doing a tough-love bad cop coaching routine to make PK a long term better hockey player? Or they can't see PK's play when they scout him?
No, because that's not what Therrien is doing. Therrien believes he is better off with Boullion/Markov on the PK or dying seconds of a game than he is Subban/Markov, this speaks to his incompetence. He was never, ever a good coach, and the young talented team has been winning in spite of coach Therrien.

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Writer from the Globe and Mail had this to say yesterday on the NHL network:

His thoughts:

We are at a transition/in-between awkward stage

Briere move made no sense

Montreal Canadiens are a mediocre team with a top five goalie and top five blueliner.

We have one and a half good lines

We have two and a half real defensemen

Our coach is misusing his best blueliner is mystifyingly strange ways and many people in the community do not understand this at all.


I have to say, I agreed with much of what the guy had to say.
I might be a little slow today(or maybe it's the usual) but I have no idea what he means by this. What is this half?

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