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11-03-2013, 07:14 PM
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I know that people are pissed at this time and so am I but we have to remember that our young players are just that young and still need time to develop in the NHL. Having Hall and Perron out makes a big deal in our top 6 as they are the driving force for each line.

I am a firm believer that we need a 2C with some size and B.Schenn is who I would go after. I would love to get B.Schenn and Simmonds but I don't think we have the parts to get both of them as I would move Yak but unsure what else it would take. I would move Klef, N.Schultz and Yak for Coburn, B.Schenn and Simmonds.

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I know that people are pissed at this time and so am I but we have to remember that our young players are just that young and still need time to develop in the NHL. Having Hall and Perron out makes a big deal in our top 6 as they are the driving force for each line.

I am a firm believer that we need a 2C with some size and B.Schenn is who I would go after. I would love to get B.Schenn and Simmonds but I don't think we have the parts to get both of them as I would move Yak but unsure what else it would take. I would move Klef, N.Schultz and Yak for Coburn, B.Schenn and Simmonds.
The young player argument especially relates to these guys, so this seems like a big contradiction.

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11-03-2013, 07:20 PM
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If we go 40-20-7 from this point on then we have a chance of making the playoffs...

Edited due to poor math skills.

After Olympic break we will need to go 20-1-1 to have any chance.


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11-03-2013, 07:21 PM
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If we go 40-30-7 from this point on then we have a chance of making the playoffs...
You Might want to check the math on a 82 game schedule...more like 40-20-7...from a team that has won 3/15 so far

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You Might want to check the math on a 82 game schedule
Not 100% sure but I am 99% sure it was sarcastic.

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No way Philly bites on that. Try Ebs, J Schultz and Musil.
I'd still make that deal as long as we had another deal lined up for a top 4 dman like Carlson.

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11-03-2013, 07:25 PM
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I know that people are pissed at this time and so am I but we have to remember that our young players are just that young and still need time to develop in the NHL. Having Hall and Perron out makes a big deal in our top 6 as they are the driving force for each line.

I am a firm believer that we need a 2C with some size and B.Schenn is who I would go after. I would love to get B.Schenn and Simmonds but I don't think we have the parts to get both of them as I would move Yak but unsure what else it would take. I would move Klef, N.Schultz and Yak for Coburn, B.Schenn and Simmonds.
I'd have no problem using Yak as a center piece of a trade with Philly that brings us in Simmonds+

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11-03-2013, 07:27 PM
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Stewart, Hartnell are both having bad years.
Henrique is 41% FO and not producing
Zajac and Hanzal are not getting traded
Phan I don't like I think he is over rated
Greene and Larrson won't be traded

It is not as easy to make deals as people think
Greene is a UFA after this season.

Doesn't matter if Stewart/Hartnell aren't producing. We need they're nastiness in ou top six. I'd settle for a 35 point season from them if it added toughness to the top six and opened up space for Hall/RNH/Yakupov.

Henrique is similar to Hall's win at all costs mentality and is better defensively then Gagner. Plus he's already had a 50 point season.

Hanzal or Zajac could be had for the right price, don't think we can offer what would be needed.

NJ would probably consider an Eberle for Larsson swap.

Not a fan of Phaneuf either but he's the type of Dman we need while Nurse/Klefbom/Schultz/Ekblad develop

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11-03-2013, 07:30 PM
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any interest in a booth for hemsky swap? a change of scenery would do them both good. the trade favors Vancouver, considering hemsky is a FA end of the season.However with booth there still maybe a little optimism he can get his body/act together. He is also defensively responsible.

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11-03-2013, 07:35 PM
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any interest in a booth for hemsky swap? a change of scenery would do them both good. the trade favors Vancouver, considering hemsky is a FA end of the season.However with booth there still maybe a little optimism he can get his body/act together. He is also defensively responsible.
0. Hemsky is a much better player, with a better contract, and DOESN'T need a change of scenery

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11-03-2013, 07:36 PM
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any interest in a booth for hemsky swap? a change of scenery would do them both good. the trade favors Vancouver, considering hemsky is a FA end of the season.However with booth there still maybe a little optimism he can get his body/act together. He is also defensively responsible.
I would much prefer the cap space from Hemsky walking(or hopefully being traded by the deadline) than having Booth.

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11-03-2013, 07:50 PM
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any interest in a booth for hemsky swap? a change of scenery would do them both good. the trade favors Vancouver, considering hemsky is a FA end of the season.However with booth there still maybe a little optimism he can get his body/act together. He is also defensively responsible.
Booth is injured a lot.

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11-03-2013, 08:05 PM
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Booth is injured a lot.
I think Booth is more made of glass than Hemsky, tbh. Also the fact I would hate to see Hemsky on the Nucks would make it a resounding no.

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11-03-2013, 08:17 PM
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Greene is a UFA after this season.

Doesn't matter if Stewart/Hartnell aren't producing. We need they're nastiness in ou top six. I'd settle for a 35 point season from them if it added toughness to the top six and opened up space for Hall/RNH/Yakupov.

Henrique is similar to Hall's win at all costs mentality and is better defensively then Gagner. Plus he's already had a 50 point season.

Hanzal or Zajac could be had for the right price, don't think we can offer what would be needed.

NJ would probably consider an Eberle for Larsson swap.

Not a fan of Phaneuf either but he's the type of Dman we need while Nurse/Klefbom/Schultz/Ekblad develop
I'm sure they would, considering he's consistently finding his way to the pressbox in his third year in the league.

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11-03-2013, 08:24 PM
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I'd have no problem using Yak as a center piece of a trade with Philly that brings us in Simmonds+
If by Yak you mean Eberle I agree.

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11-03-2013, 08:44 PM
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Hate to say it, but the trade that makes this team better probably isn't available until next offseason.

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11-03-2013, 08:49 PM
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Hate to say it, but the trade that makes this team better probably isn't available until next offseason.
does that really matter though? this season is toast... if we have to wait until the offseason to make a trade it doesn't really matter one way or the other to be honest

it would be different if we had a hope in hell of making the playoffs

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11-03-2013, 08:50 PM
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I'm sure they would, considering he's consistently finding his way to the pressbox in his third year in the league.
Eberle should be seeing the press box at some point. Problem is we have a dozen or so players who should as well.

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i'd trade hall and eberle while they still have any value whatsoever

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does that really matter though? this season is toast... if we have to wait until the offseason to make a trade it doesn't really matter one way or the other to be honest

it would be different if we had a hope in hell of making the playoffs
it matters a bit, because if we make a trade now, we are going to lose. Teams are going to take us as desperate and take advantage.

In the offseason, everyone is open season.

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11-03-2013, 08:52 PM
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Klefbomb is horribly overrated.
this.

other than 1 really good WJC, what has klefbom exactly done? he is barely holding his own in the AHL as a 20 year old.... doesn't exactly look like a guy we can slot into our top-4 for next season.... more like a guy we hope will be good enough to make the team in 2015-16 if we're honest with ourselves

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He has looked amazing so far in OKC. An absolute rock defensively in comparison to the rest of the team.
really? he is -4 so far through 10 GP... i haven't seen any reports saying that he has been rock solid defensively, but its entirely possible that i just didn't see the report

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it matters a bit, because if we make a trade now, we are going to lose. Teams are going to take us as desperate and take advantage.

In the offseason, everyone is open season.
yeah, thats a good point actually.... like i said, i'm fine with waiting till the offseason... once the team can't make the playoffs i don't care about improving during the season anymore.... and, very pathetically, and sadly, we were out of the playoff race before november 1st, lol

might as well wait till the offseason, at least then we'll have a better idea as to what type of players the potential trade-bait players are (eberle, yakupov being the 2 most likely candidates)

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it matters a bit, because if we make a trade now, we are going to lose. Teams are going to take us as desperate and take advantage.

In the offseason, everyone is open season.
so brooklyn shiested buffalo, and philly got snookered by colorado?


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so brooklyn shiested buffalo, and philly got snookered by colorado?
Different situation completely, can't be compared.

Buffalo is not a team expected to be on the up and up, they are rebuilding. Vanek and Moulson in the deal are UFAs.

In the COL-Philly deal, Downie is a UFA and that deal is more even than HF sought it out to be.

In Edmonton, a massive deal would involve contracted players or RFAs, considering all of our UFAs are garbage. With a 3-10-1 start and a team that was actually expected to start winning going to the tank, teams are going to think "they will do anything to improve now" and will throw garbage at us to convince us that change is the right thing to do.

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