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11-02-2013, 10:37 PM
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at the other end of the spectrum there's idiots who think the sole reason a black person is treated unfairly (in their view) is his/her skin color... wich is equally racist.
I think when racism is used to explain everything PK goes through it has to be more awkward for him. PK likely has faced it quite a bit of racism in his life. He doesn't need everybody deciding what is racist for him and fighting this battle for him over every tiny thing. It would be annoying.


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at the other end of the spectrum there's idiots who think the sole reason a black person is treated unfairly (in their view) is his/her skin color... wich is equally racist.
You are the one who raised the issue of skin colour. So if a black person is targeted with racism and it's not about skin colour, what is it? Seriously. Cuisine? Costuming?

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11-02-2013, 10:38 PM
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You are the one who raised the issue of skin colour. So if a black person is targeted with racism and it's not about skin colour, what is it? Seriously. Cuisine? Costuming?
He didn't say racism. He said unfair treatment.

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11-02-2013, 10:39 PM
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You are the one who raised the issue of skin colour. So if a black person is targeted with racism and it's not about skin colour, what is it? Seriously. Cuisine? Costuming?
should have read a few more posts, that's what everyone defening PK is crying about, racism, racism, racism... it's in every ****ing page of this topic...

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I think when racism is used to explain everything PK goes through it has to be more awkward for him. And that's fully acknowledging that racism exists and PK likely has faced it quite a bit. Just that PK is doesn't need everybody deciding what is racist for him and fighting this battle for him over every tiny thing.
True, but using the racism thing is just an excuse... I dont know MT personally, so he could be a racist who knows! but reality is this... whenever MT does stuff posters here dont like, he's just a bad coach... except for when it's related to PK, then hes not a bad coach anymore he's just a racist...

I mean, come on...

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11-02-2013, 10:48 PM
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He didn't say racism. He said unfair treatment.
Then you missed the original post I replied to. And a few other after.

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True, but using the racism thing is just an excuse... I dont know MT personally, so he could be a racist who knows! ..
Yeah, I agree. That's pretty much what I am saying. I don't think Therrien is racist either. He could very well be. But I don't see enough evidence to suggest it. And I think if PK has people bringing up this as an issue over every little thing for the rest of his career, that is going to be hella awkward for him.

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As long as people keep talking about the absurdity of Subban not playing on the PK as some conspiracy against Subban, and then throw racism into the mix, yes, I will continue to call Subban a victim.

If PK is being conspired against by a racist coach, he is a victim.

Poor Subban, the victim.
No one is talking about a conspiracy. This is how ignorant you are. Bringing up that the treatment PK receives may be due to race is not a conspiracy theory. Jeez. Why did you even feel the need to mention Obama if you weren't pushing an agenda?

I don't think you're capable of approaching this discussion with any kind of objectivity.

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at the other end of the spectrum there's idiots who think the sole reason a black person is treated unfairly (in their view) is his/her skin color... wich is equally racist.
OK and? How is that relevant to the discussion?

Hockey is the same sport that labels Russians as being heartless and French Canadians as being soft....but when it comes to black players....there's no ignorance, right?. C'mon.

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No one is talking about a conspiracy. This is how ignorant you are. Bringing up that the treatment PK receives may be due to race is not a conspiracy theory. Jeez. Why did you even feel the need to mention Obama if you weren't pushing an agenda?

I don't think you're capable of approaching this discussion with any kind of objectivity.
Ignorant?

Check out the words I highlighted in your post and you can figure out ignorance.

Keep speculating and making Subban a victim. Looks good for this franchise.

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11-02-2013, 11:16 PM
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should have read a few more posts, that's what everyone defening PK is crying about, racism, racism, racism... it's in every ****ing page of this topic...
"as a person of dark colored skin you know what's worst than racists ? white people who think they fully understand what racism is and try to explain it de long en large..."

I'm speaking of the dialogue you and I are having. A subset of the thread.
Every subsequent post of mine was responding to this ridiculous post.

The rest of you, read the whole thread, or ****.

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11-02-2013, 11:20 PM
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"as a person of dark colored skin you know what's worst than racists ? white people who think they fully understand what racism is and try to explain it de long en large..."

I'm speaking of the dialogue you and I are having. A subset of the thread.
Every subsequent post of mine was responding to this ridiculous post.

The rest of you, read the whole thread, or ****.
funny that you call this ridiculous as you've been proving my point since...

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OK and? How is that relevant to the discussion?

Hockey is the same sport that labels Russians as being heartless and French Canadians as being soft....but when it comes to black players....there's no ignorance, right?. C'mon.
K, I'll help you since you seems lost, baby steps...

if you were to describe MT (overall) would you use something closer to "smart and good coach" or closer to "idiot who can't coach" ?

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funny that you call this ridiculous as you've been proving my point since...
I challenge you to quote me to substantiate this.

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I challenge you to quote me to substantiate this.


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You are the one who raised the issue of skin colour. So if a black person is targeted with racism and it's not about skin colour, what is it? Seriously. Cuisine? Costuming?

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done.
Really? That's beyond laughable. Try an intelligent response to my point. Nya nya nya is at next the Stooges.

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Really? That's beyond laughable. Try an intelligent response to my point. Nya nya nya is at next the Stooges.
thing is, you dont have any that makes a bit of sense.

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Boutique slams his stick n gave pk a dirty look. Pk with all his offense he gets brain craps making dump ass plays. I'm frustrated with this kid. No I'm not racist

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thing is, you dont have any that makes a bit of sense.
Since your initial statement that only dark skinned people understand hate, you have yet to make a single point to debate this. Try harder. Actually, just try a little.

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Since your initial statement that only dark skinned people understand hate, you have yet to make a single point to debate this. Try harder. Actually, just try a little.
wrong, learn how to read.

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wrong, learn how to read.
No. Wrong. Learn how to discuss. You have not addressed any issue I raised. A racist might say, " look at this X" moron.

I just say, look at this moron.

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No. Wrong. Learn how to discuss. You have not addressed any issue I raised. A racist might say, " look at this X" moron.

I just say, look at this moron.
raise a decent one and we'll talk... stop the "he's black therefore it's automatically racism" and well talk...

so, what's your point...

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Subban put it tape to tape to the Avalanche forward for the 3-1 goal tonight. But Therrien is a racist for not playing him to defend leads, even though we defend leads fine.

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Subban put it tape to tape to the Avalanche forward for the 3-1 goal tonight. But Therrien is a racist for not playing him to defend leads, even though we defend leads fine.
Being up by a goal defending and down by 1 attacking are 2 separate situations. PK was out there to make things happen he took risks he wouldnt normally make .

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Being up by a goal defending and down by 1 attacking are 2 separate situations. PK was out there to make things happen he took risks he wouldnt normally make .
Yes. Make things happen behind your own net. These are risks you just have to take.

Behind your own net.

Behind your own net.

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