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11-02-2013, 03:48 PM
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Great, and when people complain that Flyers fans are a bunch of neanderthals, comments like this are the reason. Fortunately, most Flyer fans have been pretty turned off by what happened yesterday. Unfortunately, most people will choose to remember comments like this, more.
Could careless what people think. I enjoyed it. One person in the organization cares. It was the one shred of enjoyment I've gotten from this season. Where's that French Canadian ***** of a captain at? What's that ******* up to? I wish emery would beat the **** out of him too

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11-02-2013, 03:53 PM
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How long was McGinn out with his broken orbital bone?

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11-02-2013, 03:54 PM
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How long was McGinn out with his broken orbital bone?
He was sent to the Phantoms about two weeks after the injury and then recalled later in the season by the Flyers.

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11-02-2013, 03:57 PM
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It shouldn't be surprising. It is, but it shouldn't be.
Yea as we can see the big tough "rough em up" Flyers is winning us games also.

The organization is being pathetic right now. Even the season from hell wasnt this embarrassing. Hard to get myself to watch games right now

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11-02-2013, 04:36 PM
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Example - Rinaldo fought Crombeen and many players (until the next day) thought Rinaldo punched Crombeen when he was knocked out already. Vinnie went out specifically to exact revenge - fought Talbot, took him down, and punched him a good 3 times when he was already down. Looked at the Flyers bench with a "Yeah do something again and I'll do something even worse" look. I think thats when Rinaldo even asked the ref if his punch on Crombeen was out of line. Just the fact that Vin went after a player who was known to fight made the Flyers bench a little...surprised and calmed the game a bit if I recall.
? It's not like he went out there and beat up Rosehill.


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I'm not disagreeing what anything you're saying. I think emery made a bad choice, and did a classless thing. I don't approve of anything he did, if holtby didn't want to fight, he should have found someone else who was willing to fight him... All I'm saying is that it's being blown out of proportion. People are acting as if emery mcsorleyed him.

Everyone who quoted me is for some reason responding with the idea that I was trying to defend emerys actions. I was not. I don't believe what he did was right and I don't see a place for it in the game. I'm just saying that people are taking it a little too far.
I get you now.

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I didn't applaud that stunt by Emery aswell, but Lecavalier didn't have to fight in this scenario. From what I'v seen he chose to and he could've chosen to in another situation as well. I'm sorry, but it just sound like making up reasons to hate on Emery even more.
In a difficult season Emery made a selfish decision to lash out against Holtby. That decision certainly didn't help the team and likely spurred the fight Lecavlier was in.


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I think we can agree to disagree here.
I think Emery is a decent back-up, you don't.
I think I used the word mediocre NHL back up. That's about what he is. Not good enough to make a team want to put up with these type of shenanigans.


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Yes, iirc Bob was the most expensive back-up in the league at that point in time.
I'm not debating the salary, nor the fact that he was indeed playing behind Bryzgalov. My point is that it's not valid to say we traded the most expensive back-up in the league for a 2nd rounder in defense of the move, even though it is factually accurate. That's because he never should've been the back-up. If things were done correctly, he would've in fact been one of the cheapest starters in the league. And as said before, good enough to win a Vezina to boot.

The fact that he even was a back-up making 1.75 mil doesn't support your defense of the trade. It's further evidence that the personnel decisions with this team are not great.


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The same goalie was awful in the playoffs the season before and was a backup for us. Getting a second and a third for him was an acceptable return at that time.
Bob had how many games in the Buffalo series? And that was after playing 55 (iirc) games in the regular season and posting a .915 in his first north american season, in the NHL, as a 22 year old rookie. That is bananas, miles ahead of typical NHL starter development.

A second and a third was likely as much as the market would bare, though a late first was probably possible. My issue isn't with the return, it's that he shouldn't have been traded in the first place.


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Bryzgalov wasn't a terrible goaltender.
He wasn't the season before we traded Bob and he wasn't last season.
He just wasn't worth his contract and I believe there were some tensions between him and the coaching staff.
Bryzgalov was a streaky, overall mediocre goalie the first year and a really bad one the second year. And that assessment is removed from the context of his contract. When you do actually consider how much they were paying him to suck, then it's absolutely outlandish.

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Thesee actually weren't any facts by definition.
I'm not gonna fight with you over whether they're "facts" or not. Whatever you term them, they're as good as facts. They're statements that are objectively undeniable. Holmgren ****ed up. Big.


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11-02-2013, 04:48 PM
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Vincent Lecavalier won't play tonight but he'll be in #flyers lineup Tuesday vs Hurricanes.

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Vincent Lecavalier won't play tonight but he'll be in #flyers lineup Tuesday vs Hurricanes.
Wow. Great news!

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11-02-2013, 05:04 PM
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Wow. Great news!
Great news indeed. Bob McKenzie was wrong?

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11-02-2013, 05:18 PM
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Im glad some people are happy including Holmgren about the brawl and consider it a moral victory of sorts...problem is you dont get points in the standings for moral victories including small steps of improvement. This team has to play smarter ...and disciplined!

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11-02-2013, 05:23 PM
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Dave Issac reporting Downie's orbital bone NOT BROKEN.

Why can't these reporters get things right the first time?

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11-02-2013, 05:31 PM
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Dave Issac reporting Downie's orbital bone NOT BROKEN.

Why can't these reporters get things right the first time?
Two reasons

1) it's more important to be first than be correct.
2) Alot of media is extremely lazy and just re-reports what they hear.

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11-02-2013, 05:46 PM
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Seriously, what's going on?

Lecavalier out for a couple of weeks - taken away on stretcher - day-to-day - broken jaw - expected to play tuesday?

Downie concussed - broken orbtital bone - hospitalized - no concussion?

Are all of those journalists and beat writers just speculating?

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11-02-2013, 05:53 PM
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Vincent Lecavalier won't play tonight but he'll be in #flyers lineup Tuesday vs Hurricanes.
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Seriously, what's going on?

Lecavalier out for a couple of weeks - taken away on stretcher - day-to-day - broken jaw - expected to play tuesday?

Downie concussed - broken orbtital bone - hospitalized - no concussion?

Are all of those journalists and beat writers just speculating?
I believe it was Downie on the stretcher. But I agree, many conflicting reports

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11-02-2013, 05:56 PM
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I believe it was Downie on the stretcher. But I agree, many conflicting reports
And they wonder why a twitter account has replaced them as the go to outlet for naming starters!

I would not trust them to name the next opponent, never mind the starter.

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11-02-2013, 06:05 PM
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Flyers say Downie will spend tonight in the hospital as well and he's out indefinitely with a concussion.

They may have been wrong on Vinny, but Downie will certainly be out for a while if he's still in the hospital.

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11-02-2013, 06:12 PM
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Holmgren vigorously denies Downie has broken orbital bone. Bad concussion he said. Lecavalier plays TUE in Carolina. Facial contusion

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11-02-2013, 06:16 PM
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Dave Issac reporting Downie's orbital bone NOT BROKEN.

Why can't these reporters get things right the first time?
He's getting that from the team. It's the national media started going with the orbital bone.

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This sounds really awful regarding Downie.

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This sounds really awful regarding Downie.
Yeah, two nights in the hospital is pretty bad. Most players that take trips to the hospital are usually out before the first night is over (i.e.: Trouba).

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11-02-2013, 06:36 PM
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This sounds really awful regarding Downie.
Yeah, I'm thinking having a broken orbital bone would've been better. Ugh, this sucks.

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Your fanbase would have been just as pumped up if your team had as horrific a start as the Flyers have, were getting blown out, and finally showed some fight, either literal or on the scoreboard.

ANY fanbase would have been pumped. So you can and should drop the condescending "holier than thou" garbage. Especially since you belong to a fanbase that defended Matt Freaking Cooke, one of the dirtiest players in the league. Your **** stinks just as much as any other fanbase.
This has to be the best post I have read in a long while and I must say that its spot on, sad but true.

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It's not like Homer never lies so it must be true!

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Stepping in for a team-mate is a sympton of exactly which problem?
Downie getting injured in a fight is an accident. He had like 2863 fights when nothing happened.
Please explain to me why his injury is a sympton and of what exactly.



Steve Mason concurs. He loves Emery. Could be one of the reasons he turned it around. Because he feels comfortable here.



You are not seriously implying that Emery is at fault for Lecavalier's injury, right?



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We didn't trade away a Vezina winner.
We traded away one of the most expensive back-ups for a decent return.

While Bob has shown promise he wouldn't have been able to develop here behind Bryz.
And Bryz wasn't bad in his first year, so it wouldn't have made sense to buy him out back then.
Good job responding.

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Lecavalier missed the game tonight with a facial contusion? That's embarrassing.

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Lecavalier missed the game tonight with a facial contusion? That's embarrassing.
Why? His eye could have been swollen shut for all we know.

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