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11-06-2013, 03:08 PM
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Imminent would mean the trade is about to happen - i.e. all the parts are agreed upon.

There is absolutely no way a GM will agree to a trade then allow that team to play the player they are getting. Are you delusional?
Rangers did it with richter and Keith Tkachuk/barret jackman

Deal was done richter was allowed to play blew out his knee deal was killed

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Rangers did it with richter and Keith Tkachuk/barret jackman

Deal was done richter was allowed to play blew out his knee deal was killed
Different times. Also GM's learn from their mistakes.

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Imminent would mean the trade is about to happen - i.e. all the parts are agreed upon.

There is absolutely no way a GM will agree to a trade then allow that team to play the player they are getting. Are you delusional?
If the trade is agreed upon then they would just make the trade wouldn't they?
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Different times. Also GM's learn from their mistakes.
Unless you're Holmgren.

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If the trade is agreed upon then they would just make the trade wouldn't they?


I love it when people argue only in cliches.
Well that's what imminent means - about to happen. Imminent would suggest the deal is nearly complete. Nearly complete would suggest all the major parts are agreed upon. All the major parts would include Del Zotto. And the inclusion of Del Zotto would mean that the Edmonton GM wouldn't allow the Ranger to play him in tonights game just so they have a better chance of winning 1 game in a season of 82.

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11-06-2013, 03:13 PM
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Well that's what imminent means - about to happen. Imminent would suggest the deal is nearly complete. Nearly complete would suggest all the major parts are agreed upon. All the major parts would include Del Zotto. And the inclusion of Del Zotto would mean that the Edmonton GM wouldn't allow the Ranger to play him in tonights game just so they have a better chance of winning 1 game in a season of 82.
So are you saying Del Zotto is being traded tonight? I need to know before I go viral on twitter.

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11-06-2013, 03:15 PM
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So are you saying Del Zotto is being traded tonight? I need to know before I go viral on twitter.
No i'm saying the trade isn't imminent but if it were that DZ would not play.

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11-06-2013, 03:16 PM
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Well that's what imminent means - about to happen. Imminent would suggest the deal is nearly complete. Nearly complete would suggest all the major parts are agreed upon. All the major parts would include Del Zotto. And the inclusion of Del Zotto would mean that the Edmonton GM wouldn't allow the Ranger to play him in tonights game just so they have a better chance of winning 1 game in a season of 82.
No, you see, thats where you wrong. COMPLETE would mean all the major parts are agreed upon. Nearly complete and imminent means jack-squat. It means it can fall through at any second.

GM's have conversations and get close to deals every single day. If your whacky theory was right, players would be in and out of the lineup because of trade rumors all the time.

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11-06-2013, 03:26 PM
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No, you see, thats where you wrong. COMPLETE would mean all the major parts are agreed upon. Nearly complete and imminent means jack-squat. It means it can fall through at any second.

GM's have conversations and get close to deals every single day. If your whacky theory was right, players would be in and out of the lineup because of trade rumors all the time.
Then those trades are not imminent. Use the word correctly. Imminent is the closest there is to a deal before it is completed. "Close to" does not equate to imminent. Imminent implies whatever is going to happen will happen with certainty but it not completed at the moment. That is why you don't see news outlets reporting "imminent trades" as often any more. The definition itself is as close to finished as possible. It doesn't mean discussion stages. It doesn't mean close but not there yet. It means about to happen.

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11-06-2013, 03:30 PM
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I think some of you guys are taking the "Trade Rumors/Speculation" title way too seriously

You're arguing over an imaginary trade

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11-06-2013, 03:45 PM
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****ing stop with the bickering, inane OT chatter and general ********, or else there will be (more) infractions and thread bans.

The amount of crap the moderators have had to delete lately from the board in general and this thread specifically is ridiculous. There won't be any additional mere deletions--post crap and you'll earn infractions.

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11-06-2013, 04:03 PM
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If the deal is MDZ+ for Yakupov, you do it depending on the +. Miller, yes. 2nd rounder, in a heartbeat. McIlrath, sure. Kreider, not a chance

Also a couple of posts about imminent trades and MDZ playing, remember the Prust/Jokinen trade? Everything was agreed upon but they held off on the trade so Calgary wasn't short players that night

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11-06-2013, 04:06 PM
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If the deal is MDZ+ for Yakupov, you do it depending on the +. Miller, yes. 2nd rounder, in a heartbeat. McIlrath, sure. Kreider, not a chance
Im not really sure why Miller is expendable and Kreider is untouchable. Seems extreme to me.

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11-06-2013, 04:13 PM
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If the deal is MDZ+ for Yakupov, you do it depending on the +. Miller, yes. 2nd rounder, in a heartbeat. McIlrath, sure. Kreider, not a chance

Also a couple of posts about imminent trades and MDZ playing, remember the Prust/Jokinen trade? Everything was agreed upon but they held off on the trade so Calgary wasn't short players that night
I remember that happening everyone was shocked didn't see it coming. I think it could happen the next few days and I agree with what you said about DZ miller 2nd etc. kreider needs to be off limits to make us better long term. We need to improve the right side of our D and having DZ there doesn't improve it so if we can get a RD for cheap or Mcilrath is ready a deal of del zotto miller 2nd would be perfect.
Kreider stepan zucc
Hagelin Richards Callahan
Pouliot brassard yakupov
Fast/mashinter Boyle dorsett

McD girardi
Staal stralman
Moore Mcilrath/rental

Lundqvist
Talbot

I like it and can see this line up doing damage, if Nash comes back shuffle lines replace mashinter/fast

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11-06-2013, 04:27 PM
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Im not really sure why Miller is expendable and Kreider is untouchable. Seems extreme to me.
I think right now Kreider is the more "proven" NHL player.
Yeah Miller has potencial, but if there's an option to trade MDZ+ Miller to EDM for Yak, I'm jumping on that.

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11-06-2013, 04:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/NYRUnlimited/sta...14225228615680

Per hockey-stud Jared Sexton, Lowe, MacT and Messier are back scouting the Rangers tonight.

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http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...trade-rumours/

Hot off the Edmonton press

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Edmonton scouts in attendance again tonight. Something is going down

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MDz scores a hattrick longing for the transfer to the Manitoba plains playing for a rabies foaming crazy coach named Dallas Eakins. No?

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Per hockey-stud Jared Sexton, Lowe, MacT and Messier are back scouting the Rangers tonight.
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Yes, but are you...

sure that they are scouting the Rangers and not the Pens?

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Oh looky here.

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They're back to scout the Anaheim goalies.

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Targeting Gagner and Petry for Del Zotto plus would be my target

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Targeting Gagner and Petry for Del Zotto plus would be my target
would rather target yaks honestly. although i would be okay with any trade that doesnt revolve around hemsky

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