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07-22-2005, 06:32 PM
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How about we don't end up picking that role player again? What we really need is a talented winger who will be able to play with the twins in the future. If we end up going with the safe pick once again, or end up drafting another goalie, it'll be a waste of a pick.

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07-22-2005, 06:50 PM
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im gonna say the best player available.

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Maybe we trade down to someone like Florida...get their first and their second for our first??? Outside of Crosby I don't think there is anyone in this draft that has the skill to play right away - maybe Jack Johnson but he is committed to college. So why not trade down to get two guys instead of one??
Its simple.

Quality > Quantity.

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07-22-2005, 06:57 PM
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Everyone knows what we would want in that super-dream scenario, but I'll say we get #9.

Even if we get pick 20 or higher, I'd consider that winning the lottery since we've been in the mid 20's past several years.
Hey I was pretty close if I say so myself. Boy was that exciting. When we made it through the 11-20 phase, I was thinking we would have a huge chance, and then our name gets called out right away. Top 10 is awesome though.

This should put us in sight of the following players, no particular order: Skille, Bourdon, Bourret, Latendresse, Price if he drops. And with our 2nd at 50th, maybe Bertram drops.

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07-22-2005, 07:02 PM
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Well if we don't move up, which I feel we might, heres my list of wants that "might" be around 10.

1.Jack Skille
2.Ryan O'Marra
3.Martin Hanzel
4.Alex Bourret
5.Marek Zagrapan
6.Who knows, stick with our theme and draft Bergfors? lol

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07-22-2005, 07:05 PM
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after Crosby, the rest of the picks will I think go more by team needs than best available (in most cases)... so trying to break it down:

1) Pittsburg - obvious
2) Anahiem - Jack Johnson - they need a #1 dman more than anything else on the team.
3) Carolina - toughest one, since they all need dmen. If Anahiem doesn't take Johnson, he'll go here... but if they do, then I'm guessing they go with Ryan - a tough RW, who would be a good fit developing with Staal at center and Ladd on the LW.
4) Minny - I think they'd take Pouliot. They need a franchise #1 center to play with Gaborik.
5) Montreal - Brule. Grit seems to be missing on that team, and Brule would be a nice fit there.
6) Columbus - Kopitar. Top talent and should go here, if he's still available. could also be the type of player they could use between Nash and Zherdev.
7) Chicago - Price. I guess it depends on how much faith they have in Crawford, but with defense already strong in terms of future talent, I think that Chicago has a good chance at taking the top goalie in the draft as their top pick.
8) Altanta - no secret that defense is a big concern for these guys. Marc Staal seems like a good pickup at this spot.
9) Ottawa - Skille will go here if not earlier. He's a left winger on a team with 3 RWs already established there and either on longterm deal (Alfredsson) or young enough were UFA status isn't as big a concern.
10) Vancouver - O'Marre - considered the "safe pick" of the draft... known of his leadership ability and his maturity... sounds like a Canuck draft pick to me.

I'd love to see someone rated lower go in the top 10, or even O'Marra going higher. I'd take any of the other top 10 picks ahead of him other than Price (with Schneider drafted in our last draft, I'd hate to see us go after another goalie prospect with our #10 pick.

I would also love to see us try to move up in the draft to get Brule or Kopitar.
Nice breakdown. I agree with you that I hope someone goes "off the board" thereby pushing one of the above players to us. I like Skille, but if he's available, I can't really see Ottawa passing on him. He seems to be the type of player they would like. Agree with you on Burkie going for Johnson. Seems like a Pronger/Hartford sort of thing Burkie did 10 years ago.

You never know, though, Atlanta may like a Bourdon or Parent alot more and that pushes Staal down. When I read about Staal, he sounds like a Brewer type d-man to me. That wouldn't be bad at all.

If something strange happens, though, Ottawa does have goalie needs, so they could go for Price if he's on board.

Man, too many ideas and thoughts in the head! Why can't they draft tomorrow!

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07-22-2005, 07:21 PM
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I think it depends on who Chicago takes. They don't need a defenseman unfortunately and they need a goalie. Here are some scenarios ( I assume none of the top 6 fall and tha Atlanta takes Bourdon or Staal):

A: Chicago takes Pavelec or Rask ahead of Price for some reason and Price goes to Ottawa. Canucks take Skille
B: Chicago takes Price and Ottawa takes Skille. Canucks take O'Marra
C: Chicago takes Skille. Canucks take O'Marra
D: Chicago takes a surprise pick like Zagrapan or Hanzal. Canucks take Skille

I'm hoping for A or D.

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07-22-2005, 07:40 PM
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after Crosby, the rest of the picks will I think go more by team needs than best available (in most cases)... so trying to break it down:

1) Pittsburg - obvious
2) Anahiem - Jack Johnson - they need a #1 dman more than anything else on the team.
3) Carolina - toughest one, since they all need dmen. If Anahiem doesn't take Johnson, he'll go here... but if they do, then I'm guessing they go with Ryan - a tough RW, who would be a good fit developing with Staal at center and Ladd on the LW.
4) Minny - I think they'd take Pouliot. They need a franchise #1 center to play with Gaborik.
5) Montreal - Brule. Grit seems to be missing on that team, and Brule would be a nice fit there.
6) Columbus - Kopitar. Top talent and should go here, if he's still available. could also be the type of player they could use between Nash and Zherdev.
7) Chicago - Price. I guess it depends on how much faith they have in Crawford, but with defense already strong in terms of future talent, I think that Chicago has a good chance at taking the top goalie in the draft as their top pick.
8) Altanta - no secret that defense is a big concern for these guys. Marc Staal seems like a good pickup at this spot.
9) Ottawa - Skille will go here if not earlier. He's a left winger on a team with 3 RWs already established there and either on longterm deal (Alfredsson) or young enough were UFA status isn't as big a concern.
10) Vancouver - O'Marre - considered the "safe pick" of the draft... known of his leadership ability and his maturity... sounds like a Canuck draft pick to me.

I'd love to see someone rated lower go in the top 10, or even O'Marra going higher. I'd take any of the other top 10 picks ahead of him other than Price (with Schneider drafted in our last draft, I'd hate to see us go after another goalie prospect with our #10 pick.

I would also love to see us try to move up in the draft to get Brule or Kopitar.
How about Alex Bourret? Is he any better than O'Marra?

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07-22-2005, 07:43 PM
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Wow ... good luck for a change.

I want Skille or Bourret, although Skille will likely be gone. I'd kill for Bourret at that position. Staal wouldn't be bad. Bourdon I could live with although I'm not a huge fan.

I don't want O'Marra, Zagrapan, Latendresse, or any goaltender. Hanzal either.

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07-22-2005, 07:49 PM
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I think it depends on who Chicago takes. They don't need a defenseman unfortunately and they need a goalie. Here are some scenarios ( I assume none of the top 6 fall and tha Atlanta takes Bourdon or Staal):

A: Chicago takes Pavelec or Rask ahead of Price for some reason and Price goes to Ottawa. Canucks take Skille
B: Chicago takes Price and Ottawa takes Skille. Canucks take O'Marra
C: Chicago takes Skille. Canucks take O'Marra
D: Chicago takes a surprise pick like Zagrapan or Hanzal. Canucks take Skille

I'm hoping for A or D.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ottawa takes Pavelec if they're going after a goaltender. He's a Czech who's style has been compared to Hasek's, so why not bring him in and have him learn from Hasek?

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Absolutely **** my pants up here in Port Alberni when I found out that the Canucks had a top 10 pick going into the commercial. Seeing the Canuck logo at #10 was a bit of a dissapointment, considering I was praying for a top 6 pick after knowing we had a shot.

Either way, I'm praying for Martin Hanzal. 6'4 winger from Czech Republic. I'd be all him like a hot cake. Hanzal or Skille.

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If Chicago doesn't take Zagrapan, we should definitely snap him up. If he is taken I would taken Martin Hanzal, who's just come from nowhere and risen considerably.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Ottawa takes Pavelec if they're going after a goaltender. He's a Czech who's style has been compared to Hasek's, so why not bring him in and have him learn from Hasek?
They already have pretty good backup goalie Martin Prusek, who is also a Czech and plays a similar style to Hasek.

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as far as the pick - I was happy after hearing the last 10 picks in the 1st round and seeing Colorado, Calgary and Edmonton all going there. Also happy seeing Crobsy going to the East rather than to Burke in Anahiem.
Well, I've been out of the loop for a long time but hearing that the lockout is over, Canucks being in the top ten, Crosby out east and 3 of our division rivals being in the basement... well, that kinda makes my day. Can't wait til Sept.

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Well, I've been out of the loop for a long time but hearing that the lockout is over, Canucks being in the top ten, Crosby out east and 3 of our division rivals being in the basement... well, that kinda makes my day. Can't wait til Sept.
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I'd go for max potential rather than "safe picks" especially considering how high we are in the draft.

What sort of players do the guys in our range project to become? 1st/2nd liners?

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Remember I said we'd get a top 10 pick. Oh booo ya!

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If Skille is gone, I'd like the Canucks to take Bourret.

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Bourret can hit too. Remember his massive hit in the Top Prospect's game?

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Wow ... good luck for a change.

I want Skille or Bourret, although Skille will likely be gone. I'd kill for Bourret at that position. Staal wouldn't be bad. Bourdon I could live with although I'm not a huge fan.

I don't want O'Marra, Zagrapan, Latendresse, or any goaltender. Hanzal either.
I agree completely with you. Bourret would be the perfect addition to this organization, a potential high-reward player after years of going with "safe" (read:low potential) guys.

O'Marra, Latendresse and Hanzal do nothing for me. A lot of people drool over Hanzal on this board yet have yet to properly explain why they have such an interest in him. All I've heard is that he's extremely high-risk, but could be rewarding.

Zagrapan would be another higher-risk guy, but he intrigues me more than the guys mentioned above.

If he's there, take Bourret. There shouldn't be any debate. And for the love of God, stay away from goaltenders.

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I don't think it'd be a good idea to take a defenseman. Looking at what's likely to be available in the second or third round, there's a bunch of physical defensemen that suit our needs pretty well (particularly Pelech and Heshmatpour), so it might be better to wait and grab one of them, and use the #10 on a guy who can give us some offense. When's the next time we're going to have a pick low enough to grab a guy who can play on the first line? Skille would be good, but the guy I really like is Kenndal McArdle. McArdle resembles a young Linden - consistently hard worker, some offensive upside, and apparently a really good character guy.

Then again, the way the Canucks have scouted the WHL the last few years, he's probably not even in their top 50.

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At the #10 pick, my first choice would be Alex Bourret. He has speed & likes open ice hits to go with a decent scoring touch. Those skills are well suited for the new NHL rules. I think in a couple years you could see a 1st line of D Sedin, H Sedin, Bertuzzi and a second line of Cooke, Kesler, Bourret.

After Bourret, my second choice would be Luc Bourdon, then Jack Skille.

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Anyone in this draft that is similar to Jeff Carter?
Carter was selected 1st Round (11th overall) in 2003 Draft..

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Anyone in this draft that is similar to Jeff Carter?
Carter was selected 1st Round (11th overall) in 2003 Draft..
Jack Skille, Ryan O'Marra, Martin Hanzal, or Alex Bourret could end up like him.

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