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11-04-2013, 08:49 PM
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Jared Cowen to TB

What would Tampa Bay have to give up to bring in Jared Cowen? Namestnikov +?

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11-04-2013, 08:51 PM
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Dont see a fit. Sens would want either a young top 4 dman or young top 6 foward back. Not prospects or picks.

If i was forced to trade Cowen to Tampa, I would want Killorn/Connolly + Gudas/Barberio.

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11-04-2013, 09:10 PM
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Cowen's biggest strength is his defensive hockey, and he has been absolutely brutal defensively. His value is not very high right now.

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11-04-2013, 09:24 PM
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Dont see a fit. Sens would want either a young top 4 dman or young top 6 foward back. Not prospects or picks.

If i was forced to trade Cowen to Tampa, I would want Killorn/Connolly + Gudas/Barberio.
I dont see a fit either, but a Connolly + Barbs package wouldnt be the most mindblowing trade either. As long as we get a 7th back the trade is a win right?

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Dont see a fit. Sens would want either a young top 4 dman or young top 6 foward back. Not prospects or picks.

If i was forced to trade Cowen to Tampa, I would want Killorn/Connolly + Gudas/Barberio.
And Cowen isn't worth any of those guys by themselves let alone a +. Except maybe Barberio.

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11-04-2013, 09:27 PM
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And Cowen isn't worth any of those guys by themselves let alone a +. Except maybe Barberio.
Yeah I'd do Barberio for Cowen

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Yeah I'd do Barberio for Cowen
Probably need more then that imo. Hard for murray to trade cowen without looking bad. Guy is at his lowest value atm. Lets just hope his play has decayed due to the lack of camp and the injury he had. I imagine murray would retire before Cowen would be traded. Unless he's part of a package for a better player namingly a defensemen I have a hard time seeing Cowen traded. Cowen isn't very attractive as a one for one trade piece.


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Would love to have Cowen. Ottawa is selling low if they really want to get rid of him.

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Dont see a fit. Sens would want either a young top 4 dman or young top 6 foward back. Not prospects or picks.

If i was forced to trade Cowen to Tampa, I would want Killorn/Connolly + Gudas/Barberio.
Namestnikov and Barberio plus a mid round pick or two?

Not that I don't like Namestnikov but he's a center and we already have Stamkos and Killorn playing with Tampa so he seems like a decent trading asset.

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Cowen's biggest strength is his defensive hockey, and he has been absolutely brutal defensively. His value is not very high right now.
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And Cowen isn't worth any of those guys by themselves let alone a +. Except maybe Barberio.
Is his value really that low?

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And Cowen isn't worth any of those guys by themselves let alone a +. Except maybe Barberio.
Cowen is easily worth more than those 4.

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Namestnikov and Barberio plus a mid round pick or two?

Not that I don't like Namestnikov but he's a center and we already have Stamkos and Killorn playing with Tampa so he seems like a decent trading asset.
Sens have no need for any of that.

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Ottawa don't do Russians. Namestnikov is sick though.

Ottawa won't trade Cowen for anything short of what Benny said. Even then, his value is at it's lowest right now.

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Namestnikov and Barberio plus a mid round pick or two?

Not that I don't like Namestnikov but he's a center and we already have Stamkos and Killorn playing with Tampa so he seems like a decent trading asset.
We're actually counting on Namestnikov, he's virtually our only talented center depth in the minors now that Johnson is on the big club.

Barberio has been a huge disappointment

Some of you are highly underrating Cowen, but I'd put him on the same level as Connolly or Namestinkov.

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Cowen is easily worth more than those 4.


No, he's not.

Back to the proposed trade, if Tampa trades for any D it will be for an established Top-2.

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cowen for kucherov?
No Russians.

Ottawa also doesn't need any prospects.

I don't see a partner these 2 as good partners unless u give up more than you want to.

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Some of you are highly underrating Cowen, but I'd put him on the same level as Connolly or Namestinkov.
No chance a 'deal' will be done. I'd say most Sens fans consider Cowen to be a step above those 2 in value.

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Cowen's biggest strength is his defensive hockey, and he has been absolutely brutal defensively. His value is not very high right now.
This.

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Yeah I'd do Barberio for Cowen
Great. Sens wouldn't.

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Namestnikov and Barberio plus a mid round pick or two?

Not that I don't like Namestnikov but he's a center and we already have Stamkos and Killorn playing with Tampa so he seems like a decent trading asset.
To those suggesting Russian prospects like Namestnikov, no thanks. We don't need prospects unless they are high-level, blue chip types (and all teams want those), and have had terrible luck with Russians, with very few notable exceptions, namely Volchenkov.

Cowen's value is at its lowest at the moment, and it would be foolish to trade him, especially with as high of a ceiling as he has. It would be even more foolish to trade him for center(s) or center prospect(s), since we already have Spezza, Turris, Zibanejad, Pageau, Da Costa, Smith, etc in the middle, all of whom are young, with the 'grandpa' being Spezza at the frail old age of 30. Not to mention we need another top 4 D, so trading one (even as bad as Cowen's been this year, he did miss camp so that is a factor) would be trading from a weakness to add to a strength, the reverse of what any trade is supposed to do for a team.

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I love the "no Russians" response. Obviously completely ignorant of TB prospects.

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I love the "no Russians" response. Obviously completely ignorant of TB prospects.
Especially Namestnikov. He has all but two years of his life in North America. Not your typical Russian, although if Ottawa wants to avoid acquiring players due to the "Russian factor" I guess that's good for us.

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I love the "no Russians" response. Obviously completely ignorant of TB prospects.
Has nothing to do with the skill level of Tampa's prospects (especially Vasilevskiy, Namestnikov and Kucherov who are all unreal) and has everything to do with Ottawa only being able to succesfully develop two Russians in the history of their franchise.

There have been way too many dissapointments (Filatov, Bashkirov, Kaigorodov, Lyamin, Nikulin, Zubov, ect)to be able to justify adding more Russians at this point in time, even though that obviously limits the talent pool.

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