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09-30-2003, 05:52 AM
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Protected roster

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Roster deadline: The Wild have until 3 p.m. today to submit a list of 18 skaters and two goalies to protect for Friday's waiver draft.

The Wild have 29 players on their roster, including holdout forwards Marian Gaborik and Pascal Dupuis, who will be protected.

Seven players are exempt from being taken because they are too young or do not have enough service time in the NHL: Pierre-Marc Bouchard, Christoph Brandner, Brent Burns, Matt Foy, Travis Roche, Nick Schultz and Stephane Veilleux.

That means two players would have to be exposed. The protected list from each of the 30 teams will be released Wednesday.

The 14 nonplayoff teams from last season will select first. The Wild have the 20th pick based on their 2002-03 record. If they draft a player, they must drop one from their protected list. The draft concludes when all 30 teams pass on selecting a player.

If Daigle signs before 3, as I understand it he'd need to be protected, if he doesn't, he wouldn't.

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I heard something along the lines of "If he doesn't sign, he doesn't need to be protected, but if he signs after the waiver draft, he has to clear waivers or someone else on the protected list needs to clear waivers".

So you can't just avoid the whole waiver thing by not signing someone til the last minute. All just secondhand so who knows, but makes sense.

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I heard something along the lines of "If he doesn't sign, he doesn't need to be protected, but if he signs after the waiver draft, he has to clear waivers or someone else on the protected list needs to clear waivers".

So you can't just avoid the whole waiver thing by not signing someone til the last minute. All just secondhand so who knows, but makes sense.
Ahh, that does make sense. They don't usually leave loopholes like that open (although I'm not sure how often a team would really have the opportunity to take advantage of it..)

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Notice that they didn't list Holmqvist as a guy that didn't have enough experience in the NHL or because he was too young.

Guess he's gone

 
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Notice that they didn't list Holmqvist as a guy that didn't have enough experience in the NHL or because he was too young.

Guess he's gone

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I'm still mystified on how Holmqvist is protected, unless he didn't sign his contract when we thought he did.

 
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I'm still mystified on how Holmqvist is protected, unless he didn't sign his contract when we thought he did.
Do birthdays play into it at all? Maybe he's one of those guys with a birthday that puts him into a different situation... like Fleury the goalie.

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I'm still mystified on how Holmqvist is protected, unless he didn't sign his contract when we thought he did.
Does it matter that he was sent back to Houston?

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Probably a stupid question but did we lose a goalie in the waiver draft last year? and if so does that mean the Wild didn't have to expose one this year?

Anyway, anybody see any players they'd like on the team? Even though it's highly unlikely the Wild would take a player.

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Probably a stupid question but did we lose a goalie in the waiver draft last year?
I remember them losing Martin Brochu, but I think that was 2 years ago.

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Mike Mottau, Maurieus Czerkawski, and Brian Savage are the only ones I'd like, depends on their contracts too. And i thought i saw Daigle on the unprotected list. There are also about 3-4 gophs out there and a couple more Minnesotians.

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I remember them losing Martin Brochu, but I think that was 2 years ago.
Okay forget my question, Just read something about the waiver draft and I'm pretty sure what I asked has to do with the Expansion draft. Oops.

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It's been a while since I looked at the CBA provisions, but I seem to remember looking up the date of Holmqvist's birthday, first NHL contract, first game in the NHL and then adding about 4 years. I believe he will be eligible next year.

I guess the Wild knew what they were doing when they made the second year of Holmqvist's deal a one-way ticket.

And no, the fact he went back to Houston shouldn't matter. Look at Tuozzolino. If I remember right, he was 21 when he signed his first deal in 2000-01. He played his first pro game that season and, because of his age and the fact he's a goalie, he was exempt for 4 seasons. In other words, exempt until 2004-05, next season. I think that's how I figured it out.

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It's been a while since I looked at the CBA provisions, but I seem to remember looking up the date of Holmqvist's birthday, first NHL contract, first game in the NHL and then adding about 4 years. I believe he will be eligible next year.

I guess the Wild knew what they were doing when they made the second year of Holmqvist's deal a one-way ticket.

And no, the fact he went back to Houston shouldn't matter. Look at Tuozzolino. If I remember right, he was 21 when he signed his first deal in 2000-01. He played his first pro game that season and, because of his age and the fact he's a goalie, he was exempt for 4 seasons. In other words, exempt until 2004-05, next season. I think that's how I figured it out.
Just saw that at http://letsgopens.com/nhl_cba.php?id=13

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The only players I'd be willing to expose a protected player over might be Mottau and Timander from the Islanders. Timander would be a good 3rd pairing d-man for us. Mottau could take the role of Roche and Murphy down in Houston. They don't really have a PP specialist down there now.

And I noticed that Nycholat was made available by the Rangers. If we want him back (very doubtful) this is our chance.

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Yep, the Let's Go Pens website is the one I use too.

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What about a guy like Todd Harvey??? I dont know what his contract is but hes a hard working player who could work with our team. Timander could be a decent pickup also.

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